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In Arizona, circuit breaker panels are
typically located outside to comply with local building codes, allowing emergency responders and utility workers quick access. These panels must be accessible, usually 4 to 6 feet off the ground, and are often required to have a main disconnect on the exterior.


Interesting. In the NE we have breakers including the main all indoors (usually in basement or garage). When I had a neutral issue off the line I had to let the FD into my house to check the breaker box. I almost freaked out when my 24Kw standby generator had a switch on it's side cause anyone outside could turn it off (and I was trying to make my house a "gap-less" system for security). Only the meter box is outside and those are all wifi now so the power company no longer comes by to read the usage.
 
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The electric thing is interesting.

Where we are we had our service upgraded a year or so ago and they installed the required meter main with service disconnect, but that is what I mentioned having a padlock on it. I didn't put the lock there so I assume the electrician or utility did.

But the actual breaker panel is outside? Here it would be getting rained on/snowed on and everything else. I have never seen that anywhere around here.
 
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In Arizona, circuit breaker panels are
typically located outside to comply with local building codes, allowing emergency responders and utility workers quick access. These panels must be accessible, usually 4 to 6 feet off the ground, and are often required to have a main disconnect on the exterior.
We've recently added a lock to ours. We should have done it ages ago. We had another house in the same neighborhood and the box was outside and we never added a lock. We were naive. This case has been an eye-opener for things that should have just been logical.
 
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DBM - duplicate media
 
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I am hoping that while searching for Nancy they bring others home to their families. It is a shame missing people are out there and it takes another case to happen for them to maybe be stumbled upon, it is so sad.
I've seen a ton of resentment online about the attention this case has received. I understand the sentiment but don't begrudge anybody the support they get. Regardless, many, many people seem angry.
 
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…That prompted speculation about the so-called Wi-Fi jammers, which are illegal in the United States under Federal Communications Commission guidelines.

They're not particularly high-tech. And they can be obtained online — which is potentially something investigators could track.

But the fact that the FBI and Google were able to recover video from Guthrie's Nest doorbell camera, when the device was physically missing, and she did not have a cloud subscription, indicates a Wi-Fi jammer may not have been deployed at her front door.

"If they were using Wi-Fi jammers, then I would expect that we would not be able to see any video from the front-door cameras," said Morgan Wright, the CEO and founder of the National Center for Open and Unsolved Cases. "I took a look at some of the videos with the other gangs that use Wi-Fi jammers, and had one been up and running and persistent, you wouldn’t have gotten the clear pictures that we did from the front."

I doubt this perp was using a WiFi jammer as well but her specific Nest doorbell battery camera still records events up to about 1 hour even if there is no WiFi signal.

 
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BBM nobody said every night but there are people kidnapping 84 year olds. I think the public deserves honesty about the need to be more cautious.

What does BBM mean? Google gave me all kinds of interesting meanings 🤣
 
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That's IT! TY! Odd, don't you think? Possibly depicting a photo missing in the house that was contemporaneous to the video? Then the photo of the 3 kids as kids? They may have all had a copy of that one. Mom, SG, AG, Cameron.. Mom's taken in the stalker raid. AG has hers.. They are silently saying, you didnt take this from us. We still have it. Thanks again. xoxo
 
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I've seen a ton of resentment online about the attention this case has received. I understand the sentiment but don't begrudge anybody the support they get. Regardless, many, many people seem angry.
Some cases just seem to explode for whatever reason - the Laci Peterson case and the Jodi Arias/Travis Alexander case spring to mind as examples. I can understand the frustration but LE doesn't determine what goes viral, especially in the age of social media.
 
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This might help.

"A spokesperson with FBI headquarters declined to comment Monday on possible dates tied to the image or whether the person is the same person seen in the other security video released by the agency.

The Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement Monday that there is no date or timestamp associated with the image and that any suggestion that it was taken on a different day is "purely speculative."

"That’s all it is is speculation," Sheriff Chris Nanos told NBC News. "We understand the thinking behind it, but again, I remind everybody, we follow the rules of evidence. And right now we have no evidence to suggest that it occurred that day or days before.”


He was talking about the image of the individual without a backpack not the video of the individual at Nancy's front door.
Jumping off this post. That other image we see may have been a screen shot from another video that hasn't been released. In that case, a captured image won't have the original video timestamp, and may not have a timestamp at all. Jmo based on my own experiences.
 
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Jumping off this post. That other image we see may have been a screen shot from another video that hasn't been released. In that case, a captured image won't have the original video timestamp, and may not have a timestamp at all. Jmo based on my own experiences.
The FBI is obviously utilizing their PIO. Good for them. :)
 
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Another video update from Brian Entin regarding the neighbors camera.


This is on the side street and it appears to be not a clear view of the back of NG's house.
Was the camera in the back or front?

If it was in the front-- it seems like they wanted to block their movement either ingress or egress to hide them/their getaway vehicle.
if it is a back camera--not sure the purpose because you can't really see NG's house through all that vegetation. JMO.
 
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Jumping off this post. That other image we see may have been a screen shot from another video that hasn't been released. In that case, a captured image won't have the original video timestamp, and may not have a timestamp at all. Jmo based on my own experiences.

Could be. Nanos said that when he was given that image (without the backpack) from the FBI it didn't have a timestamp on it. Kash Patel placed that image (without the backpack) in his x post with the video clips of Lantana man at Nancy's door and stated that these were taken the morning Nancy went missing.

Now whether FBI/Kash has the actual metadata for that image without the backpack remains to be seen. Like Nanos said - some LE is just assuming that image was taken on the same date due to the door nest cam video footage.
 
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What does BBM mean? Google gave me all kinds of interesting meanings 🤣
I found this Websleuths lexicon extremely helpful when I first started lurking:


Hope this helps!
 
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Could be. Nanos said that when he was given that image (without the backpack) from the FBI it didn't have a timestamp on it. Kash Patel placed that image (without the backpack) in his x post with the video clips of Lantana man at Nancy's door and stated that these were taken the morning Nancy went missing.

Now whether FBI/Kash has the actual metadata for that image without the backpack remains to be seen. Like Nanos said - some LE is just assuming that image was taken on the same date due to the door nest cam video footage.
At the same time, they seem to think the perp was there on Jan 11th, I wonder how they would know that if not from that 'backpackless' image?
 
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