GUILTY NC - Kathleen Peterson, 48, found dead in her Durham home, 9 Dec 2001

  • #61
Originally posted by Jeana (DP)
Wudge, thank you for your interpretation of the trial. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any of it, but the snippets I've read on Court TV and the like make me think you may be onto something. I cannot fathom how they're going to get out of the murder weapon theory now.

Jeana, I watched the whole trial, and, as I said in my posts, the prosecutorial incompetence displayed throughout this trial was simply stunning, and to have even brought this trial to the inside of a courtroom represented a major abuse of prosecutorial power. This trial is what you are supposed to find in Disneyland, not in a courtroom.

I am happy the prosecutors are going down with their absurd fantasyland case in a flaming death spiral on national TV. If any justice is to be found in this sad excuse for a trial, their coming crash and burn is it.. You can color me very happy.
 
  • #62
Today's cross was amazing. How about when Rudolf kept "accidentally" mispronouncing the guy's name. The whole thing was a bloodbath.

I'm worried this guy Saami is gonna kill himself. Seriously. Did anyone see the look on his face when he was sitting at the bench, after the lunch break? It was painful to see.
 
  • #63
Originally posted by boody
Today's cross was amazing. How about when Rudolf kept "accidentally" mispronouncing the guy's name. The whole thing was a bloodbath.

I'm worried this guy Saami is gonna kill himself. Seriously. Did anyone see the look on his face when he was sitting at the bench, after the lunch break? It was painful to see.

I saw the whole thing; I watched the whole trial. This guy came off as a boldfaced liar, and he was caught doing it in open court on national TV. I think it was fitting justice, but that doesn't bother me one iota that he look sorry for his false testimony. What I am concerned about is other trials where this guy might have sold a jury a bill of goods via his junk science methods supported by false credentials.

I think it was lost in the shuffle, but he also claimed to have authored 60 articles that had received critical per review, which, like his Temple affiliation, was a blatant lie as well. I have no sympatthy for him whatsover. He violated the oath he swore to uphold, and he did it far more than once. I hope he goes to prison.
 
  • #64
That's pretty harsh. You never lied on your resume? I know I have. I agree the guy shouldn't have done it, & he came off like a total chucklehead during the toiletbowl incident, but he looked so despondent my heart went out to him. His whole personal & professional life is down the (toilet) drain; it seemed to me his testimony is commonon-sensical so it's a shame the jury must disregard it.
What doesn't make sense is that somebody would accidentally "fall" and land in that position, or that somebody would cough out blood at the rate needed to produced the stains on the wall, and yet not have an iota of blood in their mouth!
 
  • #65
MONDAY WILL PROVE INTERESTING....
 
  • #66
Hey, gang!
I found it an interesting last few days. Jurors dismissed, the jury's requests for published exhibits... Lots of interesting commentary. Many predict a hung jury. What do you think?
 
  • #67
SARIEBELL:

Am so glad you wrote!!!! Am crushed!!!! If that guilty MP doesn't get off scot-free it will be a miracle!!!!!!! You KNOW he did it!

I will say this: IT HAS BEEN INTERESTING! Isn't that hilarious about the drunk juror????? hahahahaha

The judge should not have ruined the Brit's reputation as he did....it was splitting hairs.
 
  • #68
I'm sorry too because I think MP is guilty of two murders and he'll walk free.
I don't think it's hilarious about the drunk juror. He was a recovering alcoholic & because of the schedule & the disruption to his regular life he probably wasn't able to get to AA meetings and he fell off the wagon because of that and the stress. Sorry if I'm not hahaha-ing, because I think MP, through the evil he has done and its consequences, has just claimed another (albeit) living victim who is probably going through the depths of hell and despair and humiliation tonight as he realizes how he let everyone down. My heart goes out to him.
 
  • #69
BOODY: YOU HAVE A TENDER HEART..........But I am looking at the total irony of the situation.

Please excuse.
 
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  • #71
Yeah, I agree that the poor British physicist's reputation is ruined and the judge let that happen. You know, I was thinking about how that could happen. My dad is a brilliant chemical engineer who technically works for UT Battell (sp?) the contractor who oversees operations for Oak Ridge National Laboratory. His research is fairly independent, however, in that grant money usually funds it. He also works very closely with UT, our University, teaching post doc chem engineering courses. I do not know if this is the case now, but I am aware that he has taught many of these courses for free. He needs the students to help with his research, and the course credit helps them further their education. If he were not being paid by UT when he was asked to testify, would his resume or c.v. still include his work at the university? I would think so. I guess I am trying to illustrate that people can be affiliated with universities, without being on the payroll. At huge universities, the human resources depts are unaware of most of the goings on in terms of professors who might consult or work for free. This guy may have continued some research that he started at Temple, but Temple was no longer paying him. We just don't know, because he was not able to defend himself.

I am afraid that David Rudolf is going to get the verdict that he desires. He is so gifted, though I can't stand him or his way!

The jury's perusal/requests for exhibits were so interesting! That list made me have hope for the prosecution. They wanted to see pics of the victim, her sweatpants with his shoe print on them, pics of the neighbor's house from Germany. The fact that they are at least thinking about the Ratliffe murder, makes me think some of them may "believe" it. It ain't over til the fat lady sings!
 
  • #72
SARIEBELL:

I dare not give myself hope at this point, even though I agree with you about the jury's perusal list. I have not watched Rudolf today very much as I find him so repugnant and his points so lame.

That is so true about the Brit's situation.....And 'tis a shame he cannot sue Rudolf for slander.
 
  • #73
The interview with Kathleen's sister today was great - too bad they couldn't get Peterson's history of beating on Kathleen into the testimony.

Would someone please explain to me just what the hell is a blow poke?? Does it have a special function, other than a fireplace poker? I've never heard this term before, yet now I can see a vast array of them held up in this trial!
 
  • #74
POOK:

I think it is a poker -Plus......not really sure...but I think you are able to blow through it to kindle the flames as they are dying out...as well as poking the fire.......(Remember, it was stated it was NOT solid brass...but a hollow brass cylinder?)

I wish I had seen what you describe about Kathleen's sister's interview.........Do you meant to tell me that he used to hit her ?????????
 
  • #75
I saw part of the interview with Kathleen's sister, yesterday, and she seemed very believable and humble. I think Candace was a good witness, but she is so adamant to get her point across, that she gets in the way of the facts. This other sister might have been a better witness, because she merely described her sister's concerns and could not talk about her sister very articulately, because she got upset by it. I think this kind of genuine emotion, without seeming to have an agenda, would have been good testimony for the prosecution.

I just now turned on the tv and heard courttv commentators discussing the inadequacy of Freda Black's closing argument statement. I hate to say this, but I think the prosecution has left a lot to be desired in terms of their management of this case. Yes, they are Southern, but they are from a fairly progressive area with many educated people living there. They can't afford to seem disorganized and make bad decisions in this case. I'll bet the jurors are pretty intelligent individuals who won't let this type of thing go. They seemed to have a really strong case...I believe the evidence points to his guilt. I worry, however, that the prosecution has not demonstrated competence in administering this case evidence to the jury. At this point, I think he'll walk.

I am particularly bothered by the fact that the defense team, MP's brother, and his friend/advocate have not once answered the question as to when, how and by whom the blowpoke was found. This is hinky!! I can't believe the prosecution just lets them waltz in and whip them with it without fighting back!

The defense also argues that Kathleen was okay with the fact that MP did it with young guys. I'd bet she definitely was not okay with that. If she was, why would he sneak around to do it? Although this behavior is not altogether uncommon, they had only been married for 5 years. I know people who have married bisexual partners and have open relationships. And guess what...I know about it. Why does no one else know about this aspect of the relationship if it was totally out in the open and accepted?

The prosecution, to my knowledge, never mentioned the condom and wrappers in the master bedroom. I would mention that!! Someone was doing something sexual in there, and not sitting by the pool like it has been said. Remember, Kathleen fell down the stairs, not up. She may have been walking down instead of up the stairs when this occurred. The prosecution just did not mention these things clearly, in my opinion.

In the prosecution closing, it just doesn't seem that either attorney is driving the points home.

I am just sad that someone who more likely than not murdered at least one female is going to get fat on the money from her insurance policy!
 
  • #76
Originally posted by Pook
The interview with Kathleen's sister today was great - too bad they couldn't get Peterson's history of beating on Kathleen into the testimony.

Would someone please explain to me just what the hell is a blow poke?? Does it have a special function, other than a fireplace poker? I've never heard this term before, yet now I can see a vast array of them held up in this trial!

Pook, a blowpoke has a dual function; it serves to move logs and embers around in the traditional sense of a fireplace poker, yet it is also hollow and acts like a giant straw with a hook at the end. The straw arrangement allows for the user of a blowpoke to blow air/oxygen underneath sparkling embers -- like a billows in a blacksmith shop -- thereby providing them the needed catalyst to turn the embers hotter and, in turn, ignite the logs faster.

In the old days, when you came into a cold house, the idea was to get a fire up and flaming as fast as possiible. It is to that end that a blowpoke best serves its dual purpose.
 
  • #77
SARIEBELL:

Although they had been married for five years, they had lived together a total of around ten.

I thought the closing arguments of Freda and Mr. Hardin were excellent, each in their own way.

Candace becomes scattered when she talks...she gets so nervous.

I hope he is found guilty.
 
  • #78
The clearest evidence to me of MP's guilt was the amount of blood and the extent of her injuries.....and his excuse of lounging by the pool when she fell. It was a very chilly night and he was wearing shorts. That was a bit suspect.

The fact that most of the blood was dry, also very suspicious.
While I think David Rudolf did an excellent job of defending his client, I feel the two similar "accidents" and the enormous amount of blood and injuries will bring a guilty verdict.
Hung jury possible.
 
  • #79
I hope it's not a hung jury..........

There is so much silliness which flys in the face of common sense that Rudolf wishes the jury to believe.............It's very difficult to swallow a bowling ball!
 
  • #80
Rudolf is an excellent attorney. He managed to get Rae Carruth convicted of second degree murder, when in actuallity, Rae Carruth should have gotten First Degree Murder with Life in Prison.

As for the Peterson case, there are too many coincidences. Kathleen was murdered.
 

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