GUILTY NC - Kathleen Peterson, 48, found dead in her Durham home, 9 Dec 2001

[tthoman]

DEAR SMART AND VERY WISE WUDGE:

MP IS NOT SAM!!!!!!!!!! MP DID THE DEEDS! I know it is hard to accept....but it is the truth.....

 

[Wudge]

Originally posted by Cypros
So, what's your point? The jury concluded that the injuries sustained by the victim and the other circumstances surrounding her death indicate that it could not have been an accident. Seems logical -- and simple -- to me.

Cypros... It is insane to think that Kathleen Peterson who had been suffering severe headaches and who had fallen before and who had recently lost her vision and who had taken valium and alcohol that very night could not have fallen, gotten up and refallen. And if you want to say otherwise, you better have something more than rank speculation.

 

[Cypros]

Is that a threat?

 

[Wudge]

Originally posted by tthoman
DEAR SMART AND VERY WISE WUDGE:

MP IS NOT SAM!!!!!!!!!! MP DID THE DEEDS! I know it is hard to accept....but it is the truth.....

TThoman... I never pretend I can divine whether someone did "it" or not, I only assess the evidence to see if the Not Guilty presumption holds when measured against the reasonable doubt standard.

 

[River]

John Douglas and Henry Lee are both following the money. Douglas sells his expert opinion for whoever buys it; he took Lee's lead.

And, I agree that Lee lost all crediblity at the Simpson trial. I'll NEVER forget what he said to Marsha Clark etal in the hallway: "see, I give a little to you and a little to them. It all works out."

I'm stunned that Peterson was found guilty. The prosecutor had the guts to take this on. I owe the guy an apology, I figured that he'd have lost this case due to the over charge.

 

[Wudge]

Originally posted by Cypros
Is that a threat?

Cypros...you need some time off..lol

 

[River]

Wudge! Seriously, do you think that the 12 people on the Jury are less qualified than you? They sat there during the ENTIRE trial and listened to every bit of evidence. They watched Peterson, etal. Do you ever think that anyone is guilty? Just curious. :waitasec:

I'm just glad he's convicted. I really thought he'd get off.

 

[Wudge]

Originally posted by River
Wudge! Seriously, do you think that the 12 people on the Jury are less qualified that you? They sat there during the ENTIRE trial and listened to every bit of evidence. They watched Peterson, etal.

I'm just glad he's convicted. I really thought he'd get off.

River... I absolutely do. I watched this trial daily. And I lived in Raleigh previously , and I know the area well and, sadly, this jury lacked basic reasoning skills and suffered an intellectual capacity overload.

 

[Wudge]

Originally posted by River
Wudge! Seriously, do you think that the 12 people on the Jury are less qualified than you? They sat there during the ENTIRE trial and listened to every bit of evidence. They watched Peterson, etal. Do you ever think that anyone is guilty? Just curious. :waitasec:

I'm just glad he's convicted. I really thought he'd get off.

River, I split this reply because I thought it best I do so. When you say you thought he would get off, but you are glad he is convicted, it not only sounds poor, but, to me, that means you had conflict, which, in turn, means reasonable doubt.

As for "Guilty" people, of course. However, this trial was a true travesty regarding our American jurisprudence concept of reasonable doubt.

Now, if you will go back in this forum, you will find how I have called other trials, and you will also see how I measure Kobe's case.

 

[tthoman]

WUDGE: I know you are a very intelligent and a very thoughtful person......but I am too.

Are you allowing any hostilities for North Carolinians to cloud your objectivity?

 

[Wudge]

Originally posted by tthoman
WUDGE: I know you are a very intelligent and a very thoughtful person......but I am too.

Are you allowing any hostilities for North Carolinians to cloud your objectivity?

TThoman...I know you are intelligent.

Nonetheless, this was a savagely offensive verdict to people who truly place the reasonable doubt standard on high ground.

As for your question, nope, not at all, there are some wonderful people there. However, there are a good number of people you would never ever want to see in the jury box, and, in some locales, there are a ton of such people. And, again, in some locales, there are a lot of people who have severe class and race bias -- along with some very old scores they would like to settle.

It's just the way it is.

If it were me, I would never want to be on trial in Durham,NC, it is very different than Raleigh or Wake Forest in its make-up. And, no matter where I might be, I would always choose a professional jury if I had that option, always. .

 

[tthoman]

I know what you are saying Wudge, but I honestly think that today, justice was served....pure and simple....and actually, justice is truth. That is the way I see it, Wudgkins!

 

[Jessica]

So glad the jury did not buy into the weak defense arguments. Apparently the jury looked at the lacerations and blood spatter. I hope some of the jurors speak about their deliberations.

 

[chiperoni]

river you are incredible. I love your posts.

 

[chiperoni]

wudge, I think you would vote not guilty if the accused sent you a formal invitation to witness the murder. We're talking about REASONABLE doubt.

 

[Silver Dollar]

Whoope! One down and two to go. Elizabeth and George need justice too.

Wanna take a tour of Central Prison?
http://www.doc.state.nc.us/dop/CPtour/index.htm

One link on this site does not work; titled "Through the gate". Just click on the others instead.
His lifestyle has changed overnight, plus he will have to work. Can you see him actually working? This time, he has no choice.


"Hey, Inmate Peterson, remop that hall, you missed a spot!"

 

[TallCoolOne]

Originally posted by tthoman
Dr. Lee USED to be above reproach concerning $$$$$$.....but things have changed....OR have become visible? I no longer value his opinion.

His "defenses" of MP were pathetic.

I agree. I think Lee has become somewhat of a trial .

 

[Cypros]

Wudge: You are confusing REASONABLE DOUBT with WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT. There was no room for REASONABLE doubt in the conviction of Michael Peterson.

 

[Wudge]

Originally posted by Cypros
Wudge: You are confusing REASONABLE DOUBT with WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT. There was no room for REASONABLE doubt in the conviction of Michael Peterson.

Cypros...you arguing with me on what reasonable doubt legally represents =- chuckle

 

[tthoman]

TALL COOL ONE: Well put!

RIVER: I did not know Lee had said that to Marsha. That's disgusting.