GUILTY NC - Keith Scott, 43, killed by LEO, Charlotte, 20 Sept 2016 #2

[Trident]

It has nothing to do with LE training. If that was seriously a factor then there would be millions of incidents ending badly and that just isn't the case. No one interacts with millions of people more often than our police officers. Most are insignificant because thank goodness most citizens do comply and then go on their way.

Its not about training LE. It is all about having training sessions in every community across our nation BY LE to show everyone how easy it is to follow simple commands and how it brings the percentage way way way way down of anyone getting hurt, when they comply. That is what is lacking and needs to be taught. They even need to come to schools and teach it there. It is so simple. There is nothing hard about complying to commands by those in authority. We are a nation of laws and not ruled by the lawless citizens who refuses to comply to society's norms and rules of law. Its even happening in so many of our schools now. Teachers/staff/employees being murdered or raped or beaten unmercifully by someone who refused to adhere to society's norms. This total disrespect for any authority figure isn't only happening to our police officers. Its raising its ugly head on many levels now. It is that toxic teaching that is destroying so many lives.

Each child should be taught what to do if they are ever approached by a law enforcement officer and to always do what is in their best interest to make it safer for them and for the officer/s. That is not being taught and instead what is being instilled in many is the blind hatred against any and every police officer who are being taught to never comply to their demands even though it puts their lives at great risks.

You are right about one thing. Society as a whole is sick and tired of all the civil violent unrest being done to innocent people and innocent towns. Towns who are being terrorized just because an officer did the justifiable thing in order to protect himself and/or others from someone who was very dangerous. Many people are sick of the false narratives that always pop up with these high profile cases. Yes, I do see minds changing and more and more are voicing their opinions on how dissatisfied they are with what is happening in our country now.

Imo,yes, its coming and there will be law and order restored to our nation once again. We have always been a proud nation ruled by laws. That is what makes America a great country. We believe in law and order. I see comments about that very thing being discussed 24/7 on just about every social media site. The majority want their country back. Who can blame them? Its coming where normalcy once again will replace abnormal violent behavior that is now seen as acceptable by some.

Once again bad acts will return to being seen as bad acts done by bad people and good acts by good people will be seen as good instead of bad. We have truly lost our way but I do believe there will be a righting in this country from all the wrongs that have tried to destroy it for several years now and we will go back to being a society who respects our laws. I certainly do believe its coming and what I read from many others helps convince me its going to happen.

Amen and Amen. Great post.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Not never - just not at the same rate. That's the entire truth.

Why Are So Many Black Americans Killed By Police?
Racism almost certainly plays a role. Understanding exactly how is crucial for addressing the problem.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-are-so-many-black-americans-killed-by-police/

In THIS case, he was shot by a black cop. Can we get off the racism topic for THIS case???

 

[Rocco]

He didn't start walking away. He was backing away. Whether that was to open fire or to lie on the ground, we have no way of knowing.

And neither did the cops. If he was going to lie down, he would have dropped the gun---but he didn't.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I really don't want this thread shut down again over the race debate.

Bessie was very kind to let us open it.

JMO

 

[Tawny]

My final comment on the topic is this: If we refuse to acknowledge the trend of racism and police brutality (in society - not on WS), these threads, articles, killings will continue. It's the very fact that no one wants to discuss it that allows it to continue and leads to violence. JMO. I've spent a lot of my time diving into this very issue, and I just want people to stop shooting people, on both sides. We just... we have to talk about it for that to happen.

Anyway, thanks for the conversation.

 

[katydid23]

My final comment on the topic is this: If we refuse to acknowledge the trend of racism and police brutality (in society - not on WS), these threads, articles, killings will continue. It's the very fact that no one wants to discuss it that allows it to continue and leads to violence. JMO. I've spent a lot of my time diving into this very issue, and I just want people to stop shooting people, on both sides. We just... we have to talk about it for that to happen.

Anyway, thanks for the conversation.

I agree. We do have to talk about it. But we need to do so truthfully. We cannot build up false narratives, pretending things are one way, when the facts are something different. We cannot talk about it in a way that paints all LE with a broad racist, violent brush. jmo

 

[bessie]

Sadly, the discourse always fails to remain civil, at least on this board. The discussions require so much mod attention that other threads -- the ones most relevant to Websleuths -- suffer because mods and admin spend an inordinate amount of time and effort acting as referees in threads devoted to extraneous topics like racism and politics. So as was bound to happen, this thread now is shut down for good.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trial delayed for man accused of shooting Charlotte protester. Suspect’s falling asleep.

The first-degree murder of trial of Rayquan Borum was unexpectedly and indefinitely delayed Thursday after his lawyers told the judge that their client was falling asleep in the courtroom.

The interruption came at the start of the second day of jury selection for Borum, who’s accused of the 2016 fatal shooting of Justin Carr.

The killing occurred during protests and sometimes violent demonstrations that swept through uptown following the Sept. 20, 2016, police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Jury Selection Drags On In Rayquan Borum Trial

ury selection appears to be dragging as there have been at least 13 jurors excused from their service after questions from the state and defense. Even the judge expressed some concern over the pace of jury selection.

 

[JerseyGirl]

All Jurors Have Been Selected For Rayquan Borum Trial

The last alternate juror has been selected for the trial.

Opening statements will be given on Monday.

 

[JerseyGirl]

RAYQUAN BORUM TRIAL: Opening statements to begin in trial of man charged with deadly shooting during 2016 riots

 

[JerseyGirl]

Defendant sought voodoo healer’s help during trial tied to killing of Charlotte protester

 

[MimosaMornings]

Thank you @JerseyGirl for the articles.
It was a scary time in Charlotte because of the protests.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Questions from jury as deliberations continue in Raquan Borum trial

 

[JerseyGirl]

The man accused in a deadly shooting during the 2016 riots in Charlotte was found guilty of second-degree murder.

Borum was then sentenced to serve two consecutive sentences: 276-344 months (23-28.6 years) on the second-degree murder charge and 14-26 months (2.17 years) on the firearm charge. He will get credit for the 896 days he was behind bars before the trial.

Rayquan Borum found guilty of 2nd-degree murder in fatal shooting during Charlotte riots