Found Deceased Netherlands - Anne Faber, 25, Utrecht, 28 Sept 2017 *Arrest*

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It's maddening. He's been there, done that, has proven it was useless - should be locked up and the key thrown away.

I feel the same.
It's makes me so mad and sad that monsters like him who commit such an heinous crimes get the chance to back to society one day, I do not understand why they get rehabilitation, you can't turn evil person to good person and you can't bring the victims back to their family

is Anne going to get a chance to live again and come back to her loving family?
is Anne will have another chance to celebrate christmas and other events with her family?
there will be always an empty chair and huge hole in the heart of all the people who love Anne... so why these monsters like Anne's murderer get a chance to get out from jail one day and start a new life?

Why it's so hard to give these evil criminals a life sentence until the day they die in prison ? if they committed horrible crimes they should pay for it
and that's means no freedom for them... ever, never , if someone destroyed life they should never get another chance, if they do then it's not justice and these criminals will look for a new victims.

I don't understand how the system still have some mercy on disgusting criminals while their victims will never have another chance and their families are
thrown into an ocean of eternal grief , pain and sorrow.

I read about Michael P who blame the police that they treated him harshly, it's unbelievable that after what he did and after the horror he caused to Anne and to her family/ friends ...he blame the law for harsh behavior towards him .... I am glad that the police treated him the way they did,
I thank them for that., If not the pressure on him he would never tell where is Anne.

And like ZaZara wrote,and I totally agree:
A new Anne may be born today.
 
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This is 2018 and we are getting very close to 2019. 100 years ago they would not have fed and clothed and housed and protected bastards like him. He could spend 30 years in jail and he will still try to do this again, he is past the point of fixing. This bloke is a massive nutbag, lawmakers need to get tougher on very serious lawbreakers like him early on so they cant do this again to good people.
 
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If you thought things had changed in the Netherlands after all the errors made in the case of the murderer of Anne Faber, please read this.


Liberty of Nadine's murderer surprises her parents

The murderer of Nadine Beemsterboer from Hoorn has been allowed to leave the tbs clinic in Almere for unaccompanied leave for a year now. He has been working three days a week since September 1 as a supervisor for children and seniors during sports. He can go outside every day for ten to twelve hours and he can also spend the night at his mother's home.

This became clear on Thursday during the session of the multiple chamber, in Amsterdam, about the extension of the forced treatment of Gerold O. in the TBS clinic. The court will decide in two weeks' time.

The request of O.'s counselor was to extend the treatment for one year and to examine the conditions during that time in order to be able to terminate it. "Therapy is necessary, but can be provided outside the clinic.''

Nadine's parents, Wanda and Jacques Beemsterboer, were horrified after the session about the freedoms that O. already appears to have. Even before the session they were painfully confronted with this, because together with Nadine's sister Jacqueline they almost literally ran into him in the hall. "It beggars belief that he also works with children," Wanda says.

Gerold O. killed his twenty-year-old ex-girlfriend from Hoorn on 2 December 2006 out of jealousy with 36 knife stabs. The then 34-year-old O. was sentenced to twelve years in prison and tbs with compulsive care. The tbs started in 2014. The extension must be reviewed every two years. In 2016, the general opinion was that he was not yet ready for release. He can react unpredictably in relationships with women, for example if he is hurt. Now, according to several psychiatrists, 'big steps' have been made, but O. will need professional support for some time to come.

They disagree about the speed with which he can return. His chief of treatment, Pia Kristensen, advocated an extension of two years to maintain control. "If problems arise, it will be in the long term.'' An independent psychiatrist said that O. should soon be given more freedom to enter into a relationship. The public prosecutor demanded extension of the tbs with compulsive care, but said he would not mind if it was one year.

O. himself indicated that he learned a lot, such as 'talking about my deepest feelings', but that he had not yet 'been able to practice' with a relationship. He wants to live and work in Amsterdam and when he comes across a new love he wants to go to therapy with her. "I don't want it to happen again either."

Just like last time Nadine's family was not allowed to read out a victim statement. That is not allowed by law, according to the president of the court.


Text of the victim declaration

Wanda Beemsterboer had prepared the following statement:

And again there's almost a year past. Next December 2 it will be 12 years since our youngest daughter Nadine was murdered. What goes through you is almost impossible to put into words. Through my book 'Mom, I'll call you back in a moment' I tried it anyway.

There is so much to write about, to say, but especially to feel. What I feel after almost 12 years is the enormous loss, the poignant feeling of missing Nadine. My child, my sparkling girl who was not allowed to grow older than 20 years. Someone else, her ex boyfriend, decided that she should no longer live. She shouldn't go on without him, he thought. Where, my God, did he get that right from. How does that happen in the head of such a man. I don't understand that. I will never understand that.

We, Jacques and I, with our two girls, a family with two daughters who were growing up, battered forever, damaged forever...

We live on, certainly, we are also able to enjoy life again and not just survive. Luckily we have another daughter, Jacqueline, and two beautiful granddaughters, whom we love so much. Life is worth living.

Yet there is always that empty chair, that empty place that will never be occupied again. Not to celebrate her birthday, not at Christmas, not with all those beautiful family moments. That emptiness has taken a piece of my heart. My mother heart, which will always cry deep inside for the loss of my child. A mother should not survive her child.

I can't cope with her death. I can't give her death a place either. I haven't even searched for that place. It does not exist in my world. In my world after Nadine's violent death.

I have interwoven her death into my life. Her mind, her spirit is present. Sometimes I feel that presence, literally.

We founded the Nadine Foundation against senseless violence. To let her dreams come true posthumously. To make a small contribution to a slightly better world for people and animals. A small drop on a big glowing plate. Stay positive and hope that the plate cools down a little.

Who is that man who has all this on his conscience? I have tried to occupy myself with it as little as possible. Tried to look ahead. Yet, once again, we are confronted with the facts.

We are back in Amsterdam. Two years ago I could not be there. One day before the session I became very ill. Very high fever and terrible pain in my belly. Half a day in the hospital. Several examinations, but nothing was found. A day later I was better again. Apparently I had been more stressed about this session than I had expected. Forever marked by one senseless act!

And now it's that time again. What is going to happen. I try to trust the rule of law. I feel, yes, what do I actually feel. I feel a lot and at the same time it is quiet in me.

One thing is clear. Dear Nadine, I miss you so much!


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If you want to work with vulnerable groups in the Netherlands, as a professional or a volunteer, you need an official document called VOG, a Declaration of Conduct. Parking tickets do not count, but a murder conviction certainly does. A murderer like Gerold O. would never obtain that VOG if the rules were applied, at least that is what the public hopes. Yet this man is working with vulnerable persons.

For some unfathomable reason, the Dutch judicial system and the forensic psychiatrists count on a female volunteer to start a relationship with a man who stabbed his ex girlfriend to death out of spite over the break-up. He was 34, she was barely 20.
Protecting young women is of no concern to the judiciary. Would any woman dare to break up the relationship with this man once it became clear to her whom she was dating?

Prayers for the family.
 
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Pre-trial hearing in the appeal of Michael Panhuys, convicted of the murder and rape of Anne Faber: two new witnesses have come forward

After the verdict in the case against Michael P. for killing and raping Anne Faber, two new witnesses came forward who may be heard on appeal. One of them says that in the summer of 2017 the suspect pointed to a woman and said he wanted to "grab" her, but then he had to "kill her" too.

This became clear on Thursday during a so-called pre-trial hearing. The incident would have occurred in July or August last year. His statement has already been added to the file.

The witness says that he and Michael P. made a bicycle trip and that they saw a woman jogging. The suspect would have asked the witness: "Shall we grab her," followed by the words: "But then we must kill her too."

A second witness says on the day Faber was killed that he heard screams and shrieks at sunset. That would not be in line with the time line that the defendant has outlined for 29 September 2017.


The defence wants to hear both witnesses during the appeal. The public prosecutor only wants to hear the first witness, because his story may be able to tell something about Michael P.'s accountability for killing Faber.

The content of the appeal is scheduled for 28 and 29 May. Michael P. will be prosecuted for the murder or manslaughter of Faber and the deprivation of her freedom. In addition, he was charged with the mistreatment of five employees of the Pieter Baan Centre (PBC).

Michael P. was previously sentenced to 28 years and tbs with coercive care, after he admitted that he was responsible for the death and rape of the then 25-year-old woman. The man was not present on Thursday.

He appealed because the court's verdict was based on a degree of planning. The man said he acted on an impulse and his lawyers pointed out the poor maturity of their client.

Moreover, the now 28-year-old man was severely tackled during his arrest, without being reminded of his rights, and was threatened with a police dog to force him to make a statement about Faber's whereabouts, according to the defence.

Michael P. sustained injuries on his shoulder, and although the court ruled that there was a formal failure, the sentence was not reduced. Unjustly, according to his lawyers.

They asked to hear members of the police and the arrest team, because there might be a preconceived plan to crack down on Michael P.. Furthermore, the lawyers started a so-called Article 12 procedure to prosecute members of the arrest team.

The public prosecutor strongly opposed the hearing of the police officers. "If one person has been treated inhumanely, it is Anne Faber," he emphasized. "In the end it is up to the court to decide whether borders were crossed in the arrest and what consequences this should have."

The Public Prosecution Service (OM) had requested that Michael P. be re-examined by PBC staff, because according to the officer "in the previous investigation he only gave limited insight into his sexual experience".

On 13 December, the Court of Appeal in Arnhem will rule on the petitions submitted.


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He only got 28 years, with his history, with the atrocity of his crimes against Anne and prior, and they are arguing for a reduction?! I sympathize with the attorneys meeting their duty to their client but geeze!!
 
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Spanning op ministerie van Justitie over 'pittig' rapport Michael P.


Nervousness at Justice Dept about upcoming tough reporting on Michael P.

Anne Faber's disappearance and violent death shocked the whole country. The shock was even greater when it turned out that the perpetrator Michael P. was in a psychiatric clinic and was working on his return to society. How was that possible? This question has been addressed by various authorities in recent months. Their reports will be published tomorrow.

The Inspections Justice and Safety and Healthcare and Youth are investigating Michael P's detention history. They are investigating Michael P's detention history from the moment he was arrested in 2010 for raping two underage women in Nijkerk.

In addition, the Dutch Safety Board (Onderzoeksraad voor de Veiligheid, OVV) is also carrying out its own investigation. They do this on behalf of mayor Koos Janssen van Zeist, the municipality where the clinic where Michael P. was located was located.

The OVV has investigated how the Netherlands deals with TBS in general, but they will also look at the situation around Michael P. Is the safety of society sufficiently taken into account when prisoners with a psychiatric disorder and TBS patients return to society?


According to sources reporting to RTL News, responsible minister Sander Dekker of Legal Protection is nervously awaiting this report. Because it is known that the OVV does not shy away from drawing firm conclusions.


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Onderzoeksraad: fout op fout bij plaatsing Michael P. in kliniek

Dutch Safety Board: mistake on mistake in the placement of Michael P. in clinic

The institutions and organisations involved in Michael P.'s supervision did not consider the dangers posed by him. They did not properly perform their task of protecting society against recurring offenders. This is the conclusion of the Dutch Safety Board (OVV).

The focus was too much on the care for P., while the consequences for the local community of the placement of P. in the clinic were not considered. The Safety board investigated the detention of Michael P., the murderer of Anne Faber. Michael P. raped and murdered the woman from Utrecht in September 2017. He was detained at that time in a psychiatric clinic in Den Dolder.


The most important conclusions:

Michael P. was given privileges before being placed in the clinic, without consultation with the Public Prosecution Service.
The probation officer did not oversee P's leave.
The treatment of P. did not take into account the dangers for society of placement in the clinic.
The organisation that had to prepare a treatment instruction for Michael P., did not receive any information about his sexual past from the prison where P. was held.
The municipality of Zeist has not been informed about the placement of a sex offender in the municipality.


The council's investigation revealed that the clinic in Den Dolder was not aware of P's past as a violent sexual offender. The prison in Vught should have passed on the information about P.'s moral past to the clinic, but did not do so because P. did not give permission for this. According to the prison, privacy rules prevented the transfer of information.

Even before P. was placed in the clinic, he was granted freedoms. The Dutch Safety Board is surprised that after one and a half months P. was allowed to go out three hours a day without supervision.

The Parole Board did not supervise Michael P.'s free time. The Public Prosecution should have been involved in the decision to give P. more freedom, but that did not happen.

Due to an error in the administration of justice, the municipality of Zeist was not informed about the placement of the sex offender in a clinic in the municipality. That should have been the case. As a consequence the municipality of Zeist did not have the necessary information to assess the risks and dangers for the local residents and residents of the municipality.

Tjibbe Joustra, chairman of the Dutch Safety Board, about the report: "It is logical to try to help patients but one should not close one's eyes to the risks to the environment. The balance has been lost."

According to Joustra, it is normal for patients to be given freedoms before their sentence has ended. "But that has to be done with the right information and well-considered. It must not become a matter of automatism. In the case of Michael P., it was an administrative process. Freedoms have been granted before one even knew the person."

According to Joustra, the entire process is 'not what you can expect if such a dangerous man as Michael P. is about to be given freedoms'. "That's worrying."


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This beggars belief:

The council's investigation revealed that the clinic in Den Dolder was not aware of P's past as a violent sexual offender. The prison in Vught should have passed on the information about P.'s moral past to the clinic, but did not do so because P. did not give permission for this. According to the prison, privacy rules prevented the transfer of information.
 
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https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/zedendossier-moordenaar-anne-faber-werd-op-zijn-verzoek-niet-gedeeld-met-kliniek-die-hem-behandelde~b2efcd31/?utm_source=link&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=shared content&utm_content=free


The forensic-psychiatric clinic in Den Dolder where Michael P. was being prepared for his return to society, did not treat him on the grounds of his sex crimes. When P. was transferred from prison, the clinic was insufficiently informed about his past as a sex offender, but upon his arrival it hardly investigated his risk profile. P., who was detained in 2017 for, among other things, the rape of two underage girls, therefore received too many freedoms and too light a treatment. During his stay, he raped and killed 25-year-old Anne Faber.


That is what sources say about the investigation by the Dutch Safety Board (OVV), which is being presented today. Because of social unrest that arose after the murder, the council investigated to what extent the clinic took into account the safety of the environment when treating prisoners with psychiatric disorders. The investigation shows that a chain of errors by various institutions involved is at the root of the fatal incident.

In 2012, P. was sentenced to 11 years in prison for raping two underage girls and several violent robberies. In the prison in Vught, where he was serving part of his sentence, he was treated at his own request for his aggression problems. He refused to be treated for his sexual problems. As a result, that part of his disorder gradually disappeared from the radar of the therapists. A risk assessment in prison would not have taken his background as a sex offender into account.

Because his sentence was almost coming to an end, the prison in Vught decided to transfer him to a clinic where he could work on his return to society. That was the clinic Aventurijn in Den Dolder, nowadays FPA Utrecht. At the time of the transfer, P. refused to share his medical file about his background as a sex offender. A prisoner can do this on the basis of privacy legislation.

Partly because of this, the transfer was incomplete and the doctors in Den Dolder received an incomplete file that was mainly focused on P.'s aggression and drug problems and in which his risk to society was insufficiently highlighted. The clinic could have seen the seriousness of his sexual crime if they had looked up the verdict: it explicitly mentioned how horrible P. was during the rape. In any case, P.'s background as a sex offender was not included in his treatment plan.

Even before P. arrived at the clinic, freedoms were requested for him - a standard procedure for such a clinic with a low level of security. P. was not examined additionally and a risk assessment was not made immediately. Nor was the municipality of Zeist informed by the judicial authorities about the arrival of the sex offender.

In Den Dolder, P. initially behaved well, so doctors saw him as a model patient. During last year's trial he said that he put on a 'mask' to mislead his doctors. It was not noticed that P. sniffed ritalin on the day he killed Anne Faber, as he told the judge.

In 2012, Michael P. was not subjected to TBS, partly because he had not cooperated in the investigation into his disorders at the Pieter Baan Centre. As a result, he ended up in the regular prison system, with an end date for his sentence, and might have been released in July 2018.

Forensic-psychiatric clinics are mainly aimed at the return of prisoners with psychiatric disorders in society. In the meantime, P. has been given TBS for killing Anne Faber, in addition to a 28 year prison sentence.

The clinic in Den Dolder does not want to respond until the full OVV study has been published on Thursday morning. Anne Faber's family and Michael P.'s lawyer are also delaying their reactions.


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Wow. This is just sad, utterly utterly sad. Seems whatever could go wrong, did go wrong. So many people failed beautiful Anne. I hope those responsible for the neglect and laziness will lose their jobs. And the privacy laws in the Netherlands need a revision! Ridiculous.
 
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Familie Anne Faber: Bijzonder pijnlijk

Family of Anne Faber: Extremely upsetting


AMSTERDAM - Anne Faber's family is shocked by the reports of the Dutch Safety Board (OVV), the Inspectorate for Justice and Safety and the Inspectorate for Health Care and Youth. They state this in a response to the reports.

"The findings reported by the OVV and the Inspections are shocking and at the same time confirm the picture we already had from the tragic events: that Michael P., during the course of his imprisonment, could go where he wanted to go, as a free man, without FPA Roosenburg, the forensic psychiatric clinic where he was staying, having any idea of who he was, what he was thinking and what he was doing. It is also disconcerting that P. was allowed to decide for himself what information his doctors could have about his sexual past."

The family calls it "particularly upsetting to learn that forensic care professionals entrusted with responsibility for this sex offender have seriously failed to protect society."

The family speaks of "a paper reality that does not correspond to the real world. With fatal consequences."

"The observation," they wrote, "that forensic care across the spectrum has hardly taken into account the risks of prisoners with a serious past of sexual offence and violence, "is "inconceivable and distressing."

"The fact that, on top of that, such major mistakes were made within the prison and in the clinic, should not remain without consequences. The family appreciates that Minister Dekker has acknowledged the government's responsibility in a personal conversation and appreciates that he has apologised to them on behalf of the government.


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The Lower House of the Dutch Parliament discusses the mistakes made during the detention of Michael Panhuis, murderer of Anne Faber

Tweets from the TL of
Valentijn Bartels‏ @tijnbartels
parliamentary reporter for De Telegraaf


Valentijn Bartels on Twitter

Today the Lower House is debating with Minister Dekker about mistakes made during the imprisonment of Michael. P. The debate will begin at 10.15 a.m.

A lot of attention in advance for the Faber family.

MP Kuiken started her story by stating that error has been piled up on error. This is not an isolated case. Is the minister able to fix that?

It is also the conclusion of MP Van Nispen (SP) that it is hard to digest that so many mistakes were made. He also thinks that the mistakes made in the case of Michael P. are not isolated.

Why was the death of this young woman necessary to uncover these mistakes? Van Nispen asks Minister Dekker.

Van Toorenburg (CDA) wants to get down to business. She wants the funding of forensic care to be scrutinised.

Van der Staaij (SGP) also asks questions that are already central to the debate: how could this happen? Why was the security of society not the central issue, but the resocialisation of P.? Unacceptable, that word too has been used by all speakers so far.

An important subject: are there more situations in which privacy stands in the way of security? Van der Staaij asks. P. refused to share information about him.

Van Wijngaarden (VVD) says what almost every page of the investigation reports also shows: forensic care has been too trusting. "Not trust, but mistrust is the mother of security.''

Michael P. was able to refuse tbs. That's where the misery began. VVD proposes that prisoners should also be sent to the TBS department in the event of deviant behaviour during their imprisonment.

A more scandalous abuse of privacy than in this case is hard to imagine, according to Van Wijngaarden. "Privacy must be subordinate to security''

A politically important question from MP's Buitenweg (GroenLinks) and Markuszower (PVV): did the minister do enough? According to VVD' er Van Wijngaarden, his fellow party member Dekker 'learned lessons'

Markuszower (PVV) first addresses Anne Faber's family to express his sympathy. Then to Dekker: don't you feel ashamed of what happened? It is clear that the PVV blames the minister. #annefaber

MP Markuszower (PVV): Dekker knew about the mess in his network. He was unable to keep P. and other P.'s out of society. We must have a minister who stands up for the daughters of the Netherlands. #annefaber

It all falls under the responsibility of Minister Dekker, according to MP Krol. It makes no difference that he had not yet taken office during the murder, according to the 50Plus leader. #annefaber

PVV and CDA want clarification from Dekker: what exactly did the institution in Den Dolder know about Michael P's sexual past? #annefaber

The Rutte administration has played Russian roulette with society by cutting back on forensic care, says Azarkan (DENK). He is the first to ask Dekker to resign. #annefaber

According to Groothuizen (D66), the proposed measures are uncomfortably obvious. He, too, sees structural errors and recalls the murder of D66 chief Els Borst. #annefaber

GroenLinks is also concerned about forensic care. Is this care suitable for severe cases such as P.? #annefaber

Now it's Hiddema's turn (FvD): It's not money nor the system, but laziness. #annefaber

Reports were plenty, but those involved made too little effort, says Hiddema. They were responsible for Michael P., but the beast in him, they chose not to see it. #annefaber

Fierce criticism of the way Hiddema describes P.'s previous crimes, with all the horrible details. Like VVD and PvdD, Arib, chairman of the House, objected. #annefaber

The director of the Vught institution was completely wrong, Hiddema states. Even his fellow criminals knew of P.'' sex offences''.
#annefaber

The director of the Vught institution must be dismissed, but the minister may remain in office. That is in any case the opinion of Hiddema (Forum for Democracy). #annefaber


Break.


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To be continued.
 
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The Lower House of the Dutch Parliament discusses the mistakes made during the detention of Michael Panhuis, murderer of Anne Faber, part 2

Twitter TL of Valentijn Bartels, parliamentary reporter for De Telegraaf
Valentijn Bartels on Twitter


Dekker starts with a word to the next of kin of Anne Faber: now they have to go through all this.

Dekker: the question that is burning on everyone's lips: could her death have been prevented? We can only guess at the answers.
#annefaber

Dekker: I am politically responsible, I feel that in every fibre. That's why we never talk about dismissals of people in the organisation. #annefaber

Dekker not only looks at the Michael P. case, but also at Philip O. (Amsterdam metro murder) and Bart van U. (murder of Els Borst). Where are structural weak points?'' #annefaber

The central question now is: is this all the information available? The Dutch Labour Party wants the Dutch Safety Board (OVV) to investigate the Amsterdam metro murder. #annefaber

Dekker carefully chooses the structure of his answer: first apologies, then he announces more investigation and discusses actions. There seems to be no question of stepping down on his own initiative. #annefaber

Criticism of D66 about the most important point: trust: "The minister refers again to a set of actions and we have no other option than to trust him that things will go well this time,'' MP Groothuizen (D66). #annefaber

Dekker seems to have to do his best to convince the Chamber and makes an attempt. "I really feel the urgency in every fibre and I want to bring this to a good end."

Dekker also promises to look at the high workload in forensic care. Even though he doesn't think that's the biggest problem.

"Was there an evil intention from the prison in Vught to only tell half the story about Michael P., so they would be able place him in the clinis in Den Dolder? I don't read that in the report, but it would be very imputable," Dekker says.

As a result of the reports, leaves were withdrawn in 24 cases 'as a precaution'. In recent times, no crimes have been committed by these high-risk cases, says Dekker based on investigation.

Rejecting TBS must become much more complicated, Dekker announces. That's where the misery started with P. Judges are informed about the possibilities and a department of the Pieter Baan Centre can also be used to impose TBS on those who are refusing.

A risk assessment for a prisoner who is given more freedom should no longer be optional but mandatory. Dekker announced this earlier.

Then there is privacy, because also in that respect blunders were made. Those in the care sector sometimes take more cautious action than is necessary for the sake of security,'' concludes Dekker concludes. Information is not shared. In that case, you stay where you were: in prison''

How could privacy play such a big role? Blunders and unjustified restraint, can be deduced from the reaction of the minister. Information should have been shared.

Dekker still shows himself humble. He scatters his replies with 'I fully agree with you' and 'I'm certainly not going to justify it'


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The Chamber rejects the motion of no confidence in Dekker. His strategy seems to have worked. All persons responsible in Vught and in Den Dolder will probably keep their jobs.
 
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Na fatale fouten justitie horen ontslagen

After fatal mistakes, layoffs should follow.


Have we made any progress after the debate with Minister Dekker about the detention of Anne Faber's murderer? The Lower House seems to think so, the Minister may continue. But the fear that little will change structurally has not been dispelled, no matter how much the House debated in a solution-oriented manner. This requires a change in mentality, at more levels than simply the transfer of prisoners to institutions.


On Wednesday, the nervous, affected Dekker took responsibility for everything that had gone wrong around Anne Faber's murderer. But he did not want to say anything about dismissals at the institutions that failed. It's understandable that he doesn't do this in a talk with the press. But this has created the impression that the horrific murder will have no consequences for the careers of those who made the unforgivable mistakes, causing Anne Faber to fall prey to a psychopath who was free to walk around. If these officials retain their positions of power, nothing will change. Moreover, this sends out the wrong signal to society, namely that professionalism in prisons does not matter and that after mistakes, those directly responsible need not fear anything - after all, it is the minister who is in danger of losing his job.

Without layoffs, hooligans remain responsible for safety. After all, anyone who called this killer a 'model prisoner' has lost all credibility to do work to prevent recidivism among serious criminals. And whoever takes over this 'model prisoner' without asking questions about his severely punished crimes is also unsuitable for his position.

In addition to such catastrophic mistakes, there are also policies that block good crime prevention. How is it possible that a serious criminal can invoke his privacy if he changes from one institution to another? How is it possible that an institution that has to treat him does not receive information about his pathological crimes? This question has been asked many times, and the House also echoed the bewilderment. With so much consternation, one wonders why the penny did not drop earlier with politicians. Do they really know so little about what is going on in prisons? And do they realize how this affects the public? After all, we live in a country where psychotherapists found it extremely difficult to protect the privacy of their clients. A few years ago, changes in the law meant that supervisory authorities were allowed to view files containing confidential information. Therapists were forced to violate the trust of vulnerable people. Some even closed their practice to prevent such abuses.

So what is the situation? The files of citizens who apply for compensation for psychotherapy can always be inspected, but the convicted psychopath who tortures and rapes young women can invoke his privacy? How can there still be confidence in the practitioners who prepare criminals to return to society, if they do not receive information about who they have in front of them?


This whole file reads like a horror story. Not only does the accumulation of errors cause horror, the culture in which it can arise is also mind-boggling. This climate in which amateurism, laziness, disinterest and credulity favour the criminal, while society is in danger. It is also astonishing that psychopaths escape TBS when they refuse to cooperate in psychological investigations. The recidivism figures in the Netherlands are high, but are falling among prisoners who have received TBS. It is therefore urgently necessary to deprive murderers and perpetrators of serious sex offences of the right to privacy around their files and to treat them compulsorily. The reduction in sentences for good behaviour must also be abolished. The question arises whether it is currently possible to determine properly what good behaviour is and what promises are made. In practice, it has already become apparent that miscalculations in the assessment have fatal consequences.

The Faber case is not an isolated one. Criminals for whom the justice system was benevolent and lenient regularly strike again. Others are outsmarting the justice system and are granted their brutal demands. From the murderer of Pim Fortuyn to the Utrecht terrorist who opened fire in a tram: we look at a trail of criminals who took advantage of a weak system. They were released early due to errors of judgement, circumvented the rules, did not cooperate and still got their way; they were wrongly labeled as harmless or as revolving door criminals were given mild sentences by gullible judges after promises never to be naughty again. This is the world on its head, when the criminal is pampered and the victims and next of kin suffer the bitter consequences.

Fortunately, that is not always the case. Fortunately, there is a rising attention for victims. But this country still has remarkably low sentences and mild convictions. The faith in the preventive effect of punishments seems much weaker than the faith in the rebirth of the criminal as a model citizen. The fact that punishment has a retaliatory function that honours the sense of justice of the citizen seems to carry less weight than the protection of the rights of the criminal. This mentality must be changed, Dekker also has to work on this.


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  • #355
Vader Wim en zijn broer Hans Faber over de moordzaak: ‘Wat als straks Annes dood is vergeten?’

Father Wim and his brother Hans Faber on the murder case: 'What when Anne's death is forgotten?'

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The reports are devastating, politicians have reacted 'dismayed', perpetrator Michael P. is in prison. And now a book has been published by Anne Faber's family about the murder case. Because those responsible seem to get away with it, father Wim Faber and his brother Hans Faber fear.

On the table at Wim Faber's home lies a white book with golden letters on the cover. ANNE, it says. Exactly the same letters as on the card that announced her birth.

"Usually," his brother Hans says, "a writer is happy once his book is there."

For months he locked himself away to describe directly and clearly how everything changed after 29 September 2017. The day his niece Anne - Wim's daughter - was raped, killed and buried by Michael P.

They know that the case will disappear into the background. Once P.'s appeal has been lodged in May, the rest of the Netherlands will slowly forget about them. Anne Faber's story will become a vague memory. And those guilty will continue with their lives.

That's why this book had to be written. In it, former journalist Hans Faber describes the suffering of the family, the search for the truth, the unimaginable horrors of Anne's death, their censorship in politics and the media, the confrontation with Michael P. and the failure to settle the accounts.

This book, say the two brothers, is a monument and a warning in one.

"Dear, dear all", Elze said. She stood in the middle of the large group of people. The murmur silenced, the glances turned in her direction. "How beautiful to see you all on the birthday of our Anne. It's sad, but it's also nice to be together on this day. Anne would have turned 27 today, but will remain 25 forever. Even when all of Anne's contemporaries look the same as Wim and I do, Anne will still be in the prime of her life in our minds. Just as funny, smart, beautiful, sweet, sparkling and radiant, just as young... 25 years old."

As she spoke, waiters went around with glasses of cava. Wim also got a glass pressed into his hands. It felt strange. As far as he was concerned, a bottle of vodka would have been more appropriate.

Wim: 'That bottle of vodka is typical of the double feeling I had while being there. It was in restaurant Vuur, the place where we gathered every day to search for Anne. It was self-evident to go there again. But what do you do at such a moment? Celebrate? Commemorate? Cry? Drop down on the floor?"

Hans: "What Elze (Anne's mother and Wim's ex-wife, ed.) says here is that, despite everything, she hasn't lost her feeling."

Wim: "When I drove there, I saw the spot where Anne made her last selfie. Do you have to drink cava? I doubt that. But I actually doubt everything."

In the book Hans describes how both Elze and Wim no longer feel anything after Anne's disappearance. Operating like machines. For some time, brother Wim used been liquor to muffle his grief. Vodka.

"Anaesthetics," Wim says. "Escapism. To compensate for the drink, I ran half a marathon every week. I haven't accepted much consolation, yet. I want answers first."

Wim clung to a ritual for months on end. He stood up, grabbed his laptop, opened it on the dining table and tapped 'Anne Faber' on Google. He saw the latest stories via the news search function. Only when he had read everything, did he prepare his breakfast. That was the way it was for months. "Are you hoarding again?" Alice (from Victim Aid, ed.) asked him during one of the walks in the Sonsbeekpark. "You keep filling yourself full with information. Until you're completely stuck."

Hans: "Of course I saw that happen. And I understood his need enormously. But it's so much and so big that I also thought: you don't have to do it on your own. Otherwise you'll blow yourself up."

Wim: "My problem was that I realised very quickly that everything had gone wrong. I wanted to know why."

Hans: 'There was a period when we paid extra attention to Wim. But there was no point in stopping him. What's more, he was right. All kinds of mistakes have been made. But that conclusion also made him irritable. He became angry with the people he loves."

Wim: "At a certain moment I recognized the mechanism: the risk is alienation, that people around you leave. I'm still struggling to endure lightness."

"The most gruesome part of all, that which hurts the most, is alwass hushed up. During the many conversations I had with professionals, family members and friends, a lot was discussed, but everything fell silent when it came to Anne's suffering. An in-depth conversation about what really happened never took place, not with Elze, not with Rogier (Wim and Elze's son, ed.), not with my friend Barbara, not with friends, not with the professionals, nor with my psychologist"


Wim: 'The psychologist asked me to go back to the moments Anne experienced.'

Hans: "We have both seen the entire police report. I know he's read it, he knows I've read it: that very long list of injuries. But you can't say it. Your brain works in such a way that you can't talk about it."

Wim: "I noticed that I couldn't think it." Earlier Wim told me that he wanted to live through everything that his daughter had to endure. That he didn't want to look away.

Wim: "I tried to take over Anne's pain. Tried standing next to her. But I know now that at some point you can't get any further. Then you can't grasp it anymore and that's the limit. I have to resign myself to that."

"Do you know what I notice?" Wim said at one point. "These journalists are busy on Twitter all the time. Anyone can follow what's happening in court live. But when it comes to the details of the murder and rape, they're silent..."

"They take into account the next of kin. Us. I understand that, " Wim said. I'm not saying that I want those details to be shared. The only thing I wonder about is how people can judge whether a claim or punishment is justified. I mean, everyone is talking about Anne and P., but nobody knows what really happened. No one faces the facts. Is that a sign of civilisation? Or do we all prefer to look away?

Wim: "Hiddema was right to point this out in the Lower House. I think that the President of the House should not have reprimanded him, despite the pain for the family."

Member of Parliament Theo Hiddema (FvD) recently discussed horrific details of P.'s earlier rapes during the debate on the errors surrounding his detention. Anne's mother Elze walked out of the Chamber. Hiddema was strongly criticised.

Wim: 'Hiddema should have just said what he wanted. However painful, everything he said was true. The worst thing I find is looking away and pretending that it's all just an abstract event. This way you give everyone the opportunity not having to know. We have to look the beast in the mouth."

Hans: "I was sitting in the Chamber and felt the discomfort of those present."

Wim: "You immediately saw the shock in the Chamber when they heard this. It was almost panic. That is a sign that something is wrong, that politicians are insufficiently informed. I didn't go to the parliamentary debate because I already knew what would happen. That not enough would be asked and that the real people responsible would get away with it: the chairman of the board of Fivoor (the clinic in Den Dolder, ed.), the director of the prison in Vught, the judges...."


"A week before the court session I was sitting on the couch with Carmen, a coach and therapist whom I (Hans, ed.) often consulted. I told her about P. She heard me attentively. After talking for half an hour, she asked: 'So? How do you want to sit in that courtroom? What do you want to radiate when you sit there?' That I won't be intimidated.' You don't have to do that,' said Carmen. That's power against power. He's used to that. His whole life. You're not going to win that."

Wim: "I wasn't in the audience. I don't think anyone can expect me to be in one room with P., while I'm sitting in my chair."

Hans: "P. was stuffed with painkillers. Once I looked aside and he looked in my direction. But he's squinting, so I don't know if he was looking at me."

Wim: "I stared around aimlessly. The contrast between that overcivilised world of the courtroom, in which everyone sits on his chair and speaks neatly during his turn, and the total chaos of what really happened. I have felt that intensely."

Six months after Anne's death, the detective asked Wim if he would like to receive a letter of apology from P.'s family. "I had no need for that," says Wim. "It wasn't until later that it became clear to me that his family hadn't cooperated in the background investigation in his earlier trial, which made it more difficult to impose TBS on him. That they are co-responsible for everything. It seems so innocent, a letter, but it's going to be very different with that knowledge."

"It doesn't help us get Anne back, but by being open about what happened to her, her relatives and her friends, we can hopefully prevent future tragedies and traumas. That's the purpose of this book."

Wim: "So far, no one has taken responsibility. Yes, Minister Dekker, but he was not a minister when it happened. There are all kinds of improvement plans; tomorrow everything will be different. But it wasn't just systems that failed, people were involved."

Hans: "I hope that employees in forensic care will take their profession seriously. I hope that judges who are dealing with a case and want to go home on time will still conduct additional investigations into the suspects. I hope that lawyers no longer advise their clients to remain silent in order to avoid TBS. When they read the book, they know: this is what you can set in motion. This is what can happen."


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  • #356
OM ziet geen reden voor opstappen Otte

Public Prosecution Authority sees no reason for resignation of Otte


THE HAGUE - The Board of Attorneys General states they realise how terrible the loss of Anne Faber is for the family, but they see no reason for Rinus Otte to resign as a member of the Board. Otte had previously been involved as president of the court in a verdict on Michael P., the later murderer of Anne Faber.

"Three counselors are involved in decisions in criminal cases on appeal and they come to their verdict after careful consideration. After pronouncing a verdict or judgment, the judges or counsels do not give any further substantive explanation on a case, not even afterwards," according to the Board.

In doing so, the board responds to a renewed call for Ottes' resignation from the family, made on Saturday in an interview with Anne's father Wim and uncle Hans Faber in De Telegraaf. In this interview they once again plead for the resignation of a number of those responsible and involved.

The Board also refers to earlier attempts at discussion. However, this would happen in the presence of two journalists from de Volkskrant. "I wasn't interested in that at all. I'm not going to communicate via the newspaper," Otte told the NRC [another newspaper] at the time.

The relatives of the murdered Anne Faber say they never received a reaction from the former judge. That will not happen anymore, according to the Board of Attorneys General. They refer to the answer Otte gave to the NRC earlier when asked whether he would consider a meeting. "Not anymore," Otte said then. "The case has become too contaminated."

He went on to say, "What really touches me is the suggestion that I actually killed his daughter. That really hurts. I can't defend myself. Moreover, there is no defence at all. No matter what I would say to Anne's father, I never will be able to explain. It will never enough because of his grief. And as a father, I understand that very well."


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Amazing. This judge enabled the murderer of Anne Faber by diminishing his prison time and by allowing him to evade TBS. That is the reason he has to go. And we all know that. No need to blame the grief of the family.
 
  • #357
’Die kliniek moet gewoon dicht’


Residents in Den Dolder have had enough.
"That clinic must be closed!"


Den Dolder - For some residents of Den Dolder it is clear: clinic Roosenburg, where the murderer of Anne Faber Michael P. was staying, has to be closed. Especially now that devastating reports have been published. These show that error was stacked on error, and meanwhile there have been two new incidents of unjustified leave being granted.

At a residents' meeting on Thursday evening, where Minister Dekker (Legal Protection) was present, the concerns of the local residents became very clear. Dekker indicated that he will do everything he can to ensure that things do not go wrong again.

"But the clinic won't close," he said. "I don't see any reason to do so, and I'm not qualified to do so either. The basis will be to work safely and to prevent incidents." Nor does it include stricter supervision, as has been suggested. "If we had known more about Michael P., he wouldn't have been here."

Of course, Dekker indicated, he understands all the concerns. "I will do everything I can to win back the trust. People think: maybe next time it will be my daughter."

That's exactly what Dick Rokebrand thinks. "I live nearby, have two daughters who regularly come here by train. They are 29 and 27 years old, but I always pick them up from the station, especially in the evening. Too much has happened here."

He considers the Minister's presence to be 'very sincere', but he is by no means reassured that the security situation will improve. "It may well be that the two patients who have recently been granted unjustified leave do not have a criminal history, as has been emphasised, but the neighbourhood does not know that, do they? These persons might do anything."

He still believes that the problem is being seriously downplayed. "At the supermarket here there are regularly people who react very strangely. Patients yes, unaccompanied. A security guard from Altrecht, the owner of the site, sometimes passes by, but he looks them in the eye and then leaves again."

That's how more locals think. "That report has hit us like a bomb," says another. "What kind of circumstances have we been living in all this time? In the past it was always said that there were no severe cases of TBS here, but now it has turned out this was very different. We've been living with psychiatry here for a hundred years, but this goes beyond what we can endure."

"Incomprehensible", says Mrs. Luykenaar. "I understand that they cannot be locked up forever. But nowadays, they release these people very quickly," she observes.

Once again, patients were wrongly sent on leave from the clinic. Even though they had no freedoms. The institution acknowledges the error. In one case there was a misunderstanding between practitioners. In another case, the correct administrative procedures had not been followed. "I understand the emotion. But not much actually happened," says a spokesman. It was a supervised leave of only 30 minutes, he emphasises. Nothing happened.

"If I had a young daughter, I would move," says a resident who has worked at Altrecht for more than twenty years. He blames the problems mainly on stubborn practitioners, who do as they please. They are 'hippy figures' who believe that everyone deserves a second chance, he explains.

"I've lived here for 43 years. There were always people out and about. But they were pleasantly disturbed: a man who cycled around with bells and whistles. The people who are there now, that's different," says Luykenaar. "I myself have a granddaughter of 19 and she travels by train in the evening. I find that quite scary." As far as she is concerned, the clinic has to be closed.


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  • #358
’Dekker brengt Nederlanders in gevaar met falende klinieken’

Lower House: weapons trade by TBS'er unacceptable

"Dekker puts the Dutch in danger with failing psychiatric clinics."


The Hague - Freedoms that allowed 24-year-old Herman D. to engage in trading arms in a psychiatric clinic for those criminal insane are unacceptable.

PVV, CDA, SP and PvdA state this in a reaction to the report of De Telegraaf that the tbs'er at Heiloo's Forensic Psychiatric Department (FPA) could grow into a firearms retailer. He did this only a year and a half after his conviction for a gruesome, triple stabbing.

A debate is requested to call Minister Dekker (Legal Protection) to account again about the abuse of freedom in a psychiatric TBS clinic. This happens shortly after the VVD minister promised to do better after blunders concerning Michael P., the murderer of Anne Faber.

The minister refuses to intervene, it's an incredible mess in the judicial chain,'' PVV MP Markuszower says. The PVV'er states that Dekker puts Dutch people at risk by giving criminals 'fake treatments in failing clinics'. CDA Member of Parliament Van Toorenburg asks the minister for clarification. "Apparently someone in a Forensic Psychiatric Department can continue to commit serious crimes without hindrance. That's non-explainable.''

SP Member of Parliament Van Nispen calls it 'very worrying' that someone with such a history was able to call and e-mail undisturbed and without any problems, and set up a criminal business. "You expect strict supervision of this, don't you?" Labour Party Member of Parliament Kuiken says she can't bear to think that a clinic of all places is being used for the arms trade. "A trafficking network is run by someone who has been convicted of a serious crime. I'm going to request a debate so that we can question Minister Dekker on how this could have gone wrong.''


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Earlier news:




Arms trade from the psychiatric clinic

AMSTERDAM - The 24-year-old man who was arrested last week at the Forensic Psychiatric Department in Heiloo, could easily control a firearms trade from the clinic. He had three phones and a laptop at his disposal for his business.

These were found in the suspect's room in Heiloo, according to well-informed sources. At the end of 2017 the recidivist Herman D. from Ermelo was sentenced to a minor jail sentence and TBS with conditions, because in a party tent in Nieuw-Vennep he stabbed three men like a raging lunatic. His lawyer has confirmed this to De Telegraaf.

At the beginning of this year, D. came into the picture during an investigation into the large-scale trade in firearms. The converted Ekol alarm guns had previously appeared in liquidation investigations. Even now, an attempt has been made to liquidate someone with such a weapon. The Ministry of J&V has announced that D. was allowed to have access to the phones and the laptop.

Only one and a half years after a conviction for a triple, horrible stabbing, Herman D. (24) already had all the freedoms in the clinic where he was staying. According to the police and the judiciary, the man who had already been in a juvenile detention centre after a conviction effortlessly ran a gang of gun dealers.

At raids 26 firearms and more than 2000 cartridges were confiscated in a garage in Amsterdam. The police found another seven firearms with a suspect in Heemstede.

According to the police and the judiciary, Herman D., a man with an Eastern European background, played a leading role in the trade in firearms. He could easily call and e-mail from the psychiatric clinic to do business.

He ended up in Heiloo's Forensic Psychiatric Department (FPA), after he was sentenced to ten months' imprisonment in October 2017 in combination with conditional TBS. A similar institution to the one in which Michael P., Anne Faber's killer, lived.

On New Year's Day, D. stabbed two brothers and a third man in a party tent in Nieuw-Vennep for completely unclear reasons. They were hit in the neck, chest and shoulder. One of the brothers was hit in a carotid artery. The young man from Vennep barely survived the stabbing.

When the police arrested D., it appeared that he was still on probation because of an earlier conviction. By order of the judge, after his conviction the man had been placed in the Teylingereind juvenile detention centre in Sassenheim, in the province of Zuid-Holland. He had previously been prosecuted for attempted murder and possession of weapons. According to Coumans, he was in any case convicted of possession of firearms. The police and the judicial authorities do not make a statement about this.

In September 2017, the public prosecutor asked for ten months' imprisonment and TBS with conditions, a lighter form of TBS. The man who pulled the knife had to undergo psychiatric treatment in an addiction clinic or a forensic psychiatric clinic, not use drugs or alcohol and follow the instructions of the probation service.

The officer also wanted the knife man to serve five months of conditionally imposed juvenile detention. The court did not go along with the latter demand.

At the beginning of this year, the extremely dangerous Herman D. came back into the picture of the police. This time, information had been received by the Amsterdam criminal investigation department about his role in a major investigation into the firearms trade. Less than a year and a half after his conviction, D. was already enjoying great freedoms. He was also allowed to leave the clinic, his lawyer confirmed.

According to the police and the judicial authorities, D. appeared to be the driving forcein the trade in converted Ekol alarm guns from Bulgaria. In recent years, there have been at least three such Ekol investigations. Alarm guns are sometimes converted so that they can be used as real firearms.

Weapons from the investigations have been used in robberies and various types of violent crime in which an officer was also targeted. The fact that two Ekol suspects were also suspects in liquidation investigations shows that the dividing line with the heavily organised criminal environment is flimsy.

Weapons from current firearms investigations also appear to have been used in the heavy criminal sphere. For example, a detective overheared a conversation between Herman D., who is still in the clinic in Heiloo, and another man. The other man complains about the fact that a delivered weapon failed during an attempt to shoot someone. The police still investigate which liquidation attempt is involved.

The suspects from the firearms investigation, including Herman D., were caught thanks to telephone taps.

Despite repeated requests yesterday, Minister Dekker did not want to respond to this matter.

Wapenhandel vanuit kliniek
Dader gruwelijke steekpartij ging vanuit kliniek rustig door met wapenhandel


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  • #359
Thank you ZaZara for continuing to update this story. Not many reading here anymore but I do with great interest. Anne's last photo sent to her boyfriend, in the rain, holding up her fingers in the Peace symbol, has touched me and always stuck with me. Beautiful soul who didn't deserve what was done to her. Her family has since shown tremendous strength, courage, and integrity as the ripples of Anne's tragedy move outwards, touching many people and layers of society. I hope their efforts will bear fruits.
 
  • #360
Thank you ZaZara for continuing to update this story. Not many reading here anymore but I do with great interest. Anne's last photo sent to her boyfriend, in the rain, holding up her fingers in the Peace symbol, has touched me and always stuck with me. Beautiful soul who didn't deserve what was done to her. Her family has since shown tremendous strength, courage, and integrity as the ripples of Anne's tragedy move outwards, touching many people and layers of society. I hope their efforts will bear fruits.

Thanks Elainera for you kind words and for staying on this thread.

I want justice for Anne and her family, and for so many others. I want the world to know, even if it is on our little corner of the internet, I want the documentation to be available in English.

Historically, the dangerous madmen (and a few women) in the Netherlands were moved to asylums near small provincial towns. in rural areas. There was space, fresh air and if they got better they could work the land. The rural area got jobs in return. Heiloo, Den Dolder, Venray and other small towns, ... a list of familiar names that the rest of the world probably never has heard of.
The system remained in place while the world changed a lot.

The people in Den Dolder described it perfectly:

That's how more locals think. "That report has hit us like a bomb," says another. "What kind of circumstances have we been living in all this time? In the past it was always said that there were no severe cases of TBS here, but now it has turned out this was very different. We've been living with psychiatry here for a hundred years, but this goes beyond what we can endure."

"Incomprehensible", says Mrs. Luykenaar. "I understand that they cannot be locked up forever. But nowadays, they release these people very quickly," she observes.

"I've lived here for 43 years. There were always people out and about. But they were pleasantly disturbed: a man who cycled around with bells and whistles. The people who are there now, that's different,"...


Criminals have changed for the worse. Judges have become more lenient, supported by a legal system that is geared towards the rights of the offender and based on an unfounded belief that even for many severe cases treament is possible. The system of funding has become more complicated and fragmented.

There is a town in Zeeland I believe where the mayor took action and made an agreement with the criminal psychiatric clinic that no TBS'ers would be allowed into the town. The clinic let their clients walk through the town to the railway station anyway. Because, hey, agreements ...

In another town near the German border, girls were attacked and raped - by various TBS-ers who were free to roam. The families living there realized with a shock that their daughters were in fact guinea pigs, the testing ground for the treatments of the clinic. It is beyond belief that any authority would let loose dangerous men on a group of women and girls to see if the treament had worked, but that is the best way to describe what is happening. As it happended in Anne faber's case too.

Enough is enough, time for a big big change, and drain the swamp, starting with that judge who let Michael Panhuis out early.
 

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