GUILTY Netherlands - Malaysia Flight MH17 shot down in Ukraine. 298 aboard. 7/17/2014 #4

[ZaZara]

Oh great. Why the heck are that SAR dog's ribs so visible? Does starvation help them search?

Ribs are visible because the dog is jumping, and ribs are easily visible because Malinois are built that way and have thin fur.
Look at the breast and the hips, they are OK.




:hills: -> narrow escape from zwiebelfury <- :hills:

 

[ZaZara]

re bold - OMON - they are the ones who shot at the Latvian barricades in 1991 - which my brother was involved in - wondering if this guy is the one that shot dead one of his friends....

H! I am sorry to hear this about your brother's friend!
These guys have been around for a while.
I read on Twitter that some are looking into the separatists / Russian friends who alledgedly brought MH17 down with a BUK-missile, and it is supected that one of them may have been involved in a massacre during the war in Bosnia. Not everybody is convinced, but somehow these villains always seem to find a way out and a new job. There is an international market for mercenaries...

Antyufeyev is wanted by Latvia and Moldova on heavy charges.

More has been said about Putin's involvement in Ukraine and the minions he uses to create chaos.
I can only find my own postings :blushing: but there are more by others ... sorry! :blushing:


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...98-aboard-7-17-2014-3&p=10793387#post10793387

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...98-aboard-7-17-2014-3&p=10779328#post10779328

 

[SouthAussie]

I keep wondering when the victims will be sent home. I read that they have identified a Malaysian victim, and a Dutch victim ... possibly they have identified even more.

But then I'm thinking that they may wait till all remains have been identified, as so many were so badly damaged.

The wait must be terrible for the families. It is good that they are starting to have memorial services for their loved ones. They need support and something to hang onto while they wait.

 

[SouthAussie]

Australia's head of the MH17 recovery mission, Angus Houston, has disputed media reports that shelling has come close to the search area overnight.

&#8230;. Retired Air Chief Marshal Houston said it was fired from five kilometres away and presented no danger to investigators.

Air Chief Marshal Houston said two of the six main crash areas had been covered in the search for human remains.

"When we get into areas where ... there's been fire and the like, the search takes a lot longer, it is a lot more intense and when we're out away from those areas progress is a lot quicker," he said.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott said at the weekend that it would take "at least a week to get the job done".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-...orts-of-shelling-near-mh17-crash-site/5644964

 

[ZaZara]

I keep wondering when the victims will be sent home. I read that they have identified a Malaysian victim, and a Dutch victim ... possibly they have identified even more.

But then I'm thinking that they may wait till all remains have been identified, as so many were so badly damaged.

The wait must be terrible for the families. It is good that they are starting to have memorial services for their loved ones. They need support and something to hang onto while they wait.

Hi, the families have a choice in this. If they want to be informed each time a victim (relative of theirs) has been identified, that will happen. They can also choose to wait until all their loved ones have been identified. The Dutch being who we are, it should also be possible to change one's mind halfway.

The public will only be informed in general terms once the family has been brought up to date.


Malaysian PM on twitter and FB:

Najib Razak
19 min. ·

REPATRIATION OF HUMAN REMAINS FROM THE MH17 SITE: STATEMENT BY LIOW TIONG LAI, MINISTER OF TRANSPORT, MALAYSIA

“Efforts to locate and identify victims of the MH17 tragedy continue.

“Once bodies have been identified and the necessary forensic work completed, the next-of-kin will be informed. Arrangements for repatriating the bodies will then be discussed with the next-of-kin.

“At all times, we will be guided by the next-of-kin, and will endeavour to carry out repatriation in line with their wishes.

“Arrangements are being made for a national day of mourning once all remains have returned to Malaysia.”

 

[ZaZara]

THREE COFFINS BEING FLOWN TO THE NETHERLANDS TODAY

RTL-Nieuws reports:
http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenland/vliegtuig-met-kisten-onderweg-naar-nederland



The C130 Hercules transport aircraft of Defense is on its way to The Netherlands. On board are three COFFINS with remains of victims of the disaster flight MH17.

The aircraft took off around 11:45 pm from Kharkov. The flight is expected in Eindhoven around 16:00 hrs. There a ceremony will be held equal to that for the other victims.


On behalf of the government Deputy PM Asscher and Secretary for Healthcare Schippers will be attending in Eindhoven.

The remains are transported under police escort to the Korporaal van Oudheusden Kazerne in Hilversum. There they will be identified.

The arrival in Eindhoven and the ceremony will be transmitted live on our website.


BBM

 

[kimi_SFC]

Tweet from @OSCE_SMM - 1h

Work has resumed at the #MH17 crash site by 100+ experts, accompanied by 8 SMMU monitors

http://twitter.com/OSCE_SMM/status/496261201283002369

 

[ZaZara]

CORRECTION: ONLY ONE COFFIN WITH REMAINS


The number of coffins with remains on the plane has been corrected.
Only ONE coffin will arrive at Eindhoven Airport today.
Expected arrival is 15.45 hrs local time.
Local time now: almost 14.00 hrs

Ceremony will be the same.


Note: One coffin may contain various bags with remains.

 

[ZaZara]

WAR GOES ON







Euromaidan PR &#8207;@EuromaidanPR 20 min.

BREAKING #ATO forces have entered #Donetsk city, #Azov Battalion Deputy Commander says http://www.hromadske.tv/society/sili-ato-uviishli-do-donetska-----zastupnik-komand/ … | EMPR

 

[ZaZara]

HERCULES HAS LANDED AT EINDHOVEN AIRPORT

Reporter Pepijn Crone, RTL-News

Pepijn Crone @PepijnCrone ·

250 nabestaanden van slachtoffers van de vliegramp zijn in Eindhoven. 1 rouwkist met resten die zijn gevonden komt aan

Translation

250 surviving relatives of the victims of the crash are attending in Eindhoven. One coffin with remains that were found, is ariving.

BBM

Trumpet sounds.
One hearse is waiting.

This one coffin .... so sad ... we know how much it took for this moment to arrive ...
Four motorized police accompany the hears on the tarmac towards the aircraft.

One coffin. Heartbreaking.

:rose:

 

[zwiebel]

This is disturbing. Hope this turned back Amsterdam/NY flight lands safely soon.

https://mobile.twitter.com/flightradar24/status/496340729820880897/photo/1

 

[zwiebel]

But if it was an emergency, it would have landed at Manchester.

I'm getting too paranoid about planes.

 

[zwiebel]

Newsweek ran an interesting article on Russian government, which I think paints an ominous picture for any hopes of the situation in Ukraine being settled peacefully soon.

It makes me think investigators just need to recover all the human remains they can, and get out of there as quickly as possible.

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/08/01/...rivate-habits-latter-day-dictator-260640.html

ETA: And this was an interesting article about Russian media coverage of the crash.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/putins-media-lives-in-an-alternate-reality/504339.html

 

[ZaZara]

SPEAKING OF STARVING DOGS ...


On August 3, Dutch - French reporter Pierre Crom shared a sandwich with a stray dog near Rosypne...

see the picture on his Instagram page: http://instagram.com/p/rPy45TNVrE/


Pierre Crom @PierreCrom 38 min:

Inspired by #OSCE we named Rosypne stray dog Oski #MH17 #ukraine #rescueteam #australia #malaysia…
http://instagram.com/p/rSWR53tVrV/

Still skinny, but such a difference already.
Let's hope he keeps it, both for Oski and for Pierre Crom.

:heart:

 

[ZaZara]

VIDEO WITH HEAD OF OSCE MISSION ERTUGRUL APAKAN

RTL-Nieuws reports:
http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenland/condoleances-aan-nederlandse-volk



The head of the OSCE mission, Ertugrul Apakan says the mission is very emotional for them.
He offers condolences to The Netherlands on behalf of the OSCE.

BBM


We always see tall Alexander Hug in a bulletproof jacket standing near cars and negotiating with separatists.
Alexander Hug is Deputy Head, and Ertugrul Apakan is Head of Mission.

I invite you to take a look at the website of OSCE, like I did:

http://www.osce.org

MH17: Timeline of a tragedy
http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/121504


:clap: :clap: :justice:

 

[ZaZara]

:hen:

But if it was an emergency, it would have landed at Manchester.

I'm getting too paranoid about planes.

The plane hit a bird :turkey:

 

[ZaZara]

DAY 4 OF SEARCH - IN PICTURES BY PIERRE CROM







NOS.nl reports:
http://nos.nl/op3/artikel/682879-fotograaf-volgt-de-zoektocht.html



Photographer follows the search

For the fourth day in a row, Dutch, Malaysian and Australian researchers were able to work at the scene of MH17. Side by side they walked through the corn and sunflower fields, searching for victims of the plane crash. Like yesterday they were looking around the village Rozsypne. Initially, the team had planned to search a diferent location, but that turned out to be too dangerous. Also, the fleet of vehicles left later than planned and the search was interrupted to seek shelter from the fights. Photographer Pierre Crom followed the team closely.

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More pictures at link

 

[Donamena]

DAY 4 OF SEARCH - IN PICTURES BY PIERRE CROM


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NOS.nl reports:
http://nos.nl/op3/artikel/682879-fotograaf-volgt-de-zoektocht.html



Photographer follows the search

For the fourth day in a row, Dutch, Malaysian and Australian researchers were able to work at the scene of MH17. Side by side they walked through the corn and sunflower fields, searching for victims of the plane crash. Like yesterday they were looking around the village Rozsypne. Initially, the team had planned to search a diferent location, but that turned out to be too dangerous. Also, the fleet of vehicles left later than planned and the search was interrupted to seek shelter from the fights. Photographer Pierre Crom followed the team closely.

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More pictures at link

I can never look at sunflowers the same. Ever.

 

[SouthAussie]

I can never look at sunflowers the same. Ever.

A lovely way to think of them can be .... each sunflower as a beautiful living reminder of the beautiful souls on the plane.
Mo, Evie and Otis Maslin's parents gave out packs of sunflower seeds at their children's memorial service yesterday.

A packet of sunflower seeds was given to each guest at the memorial service.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...t-scotch-college/story-fnhocxo3-1227011909015

 

[SouthAussie]

The world is one step closer to locating the separatists who shot down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17.

The owner of a Volvo truck that reportedly smuggled a BUK missile into Ukraine that downed flight MH17 has been found &#8212; and now fears for his life.

&#8220;Yes, of course. It is easy to recognise. We know our vehicles. Yes, it is ours,&#8221; he confirmed.
&#8220;It is the only Volvo with such a cabin&#8221;.

New evidence suggests pro-Russian rebels are responsible for the attack after the man, known only as Vasilijus, told Lithuanian website alfa.it the vehicle was stolen by them on July 8.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...e-fears-his-life/story-fnizu68q-1227014149633