New Ronald Jail Calls Girlfriend? What Ron Thinks of Black People

[OneLostGrl]

Not to pick on you but there have been several posts of this nature.

Just for the record I stood up for him because my theory is not “RC did it”.

I thought/think that the very things you listed are what made Haleigh vulnerable to a SO.

I wasn’t fooled I just don’t find him as ‘special’ as most of you all do. RC et al types are a dime a dozen around here.

Laughing about the way he talks or mispronounces words sort of lowers the standard of the forum.

I will admit that I thought a poster couldn’t spell when she was spelling work werk until I realized it was their attempt of replicating dialect in an insulting way. IMO

Mizz has a wonderful connotation for me. I hear it every day.

FWIW the n word with an “a” is apparently socially acceptable in certain circles in which African American & whites circulate together and is used by whites even to refer to themselves & each other especially those who think they are gangsta.


IMO

I agree with you regarding Ron in a sense. It's been clear since "day 1" dude has issues but it's also been clear since "day 1" that every adult in these childrens lives have issues. I suppose it's been a matter of perspective for some. When discussing cases like these on a forum there's always gonna be a "bad guy" and in this case, around here you can either like Ron or Crystal period :crazy:. You praise one or the other or you are considered against them and standing up for the other one. To me, Ron is a pretty typical lazy momma's boy redneck flexing his non-muscles every chance he can get- we are surrounded by "Ron's".. he isn't that difficult to figure out. I'm glad he finally got busted it's been a long time comin'- couldn't have happened to a better guy, imo!

But I call it like it is-I take no sides in this case. I don't care if anyone likes what I have to say, I believe in looking reality in the face not picking sides to play on. Each and every adult in these babies lives have major issues, each and every adult has let these children down. I'm just praying at least one of them will decide to change things for the sake of these children. It's time these families- all of them- the Cummings, the Sheffield's and the Croslin's stop letting their children/grandchildren down and break the cycle they each have!

 

[OneLostGrl]

I bet the prison will never give an addict narcotics.........
they probably are used to addicts needing an wanting drugs.
These convicts made their bed, now lay in it!
What is so funny to me.........on the 11 call Ron says
'I ain't afraid to go to jail!' he wanted to kill them.
Well he never killed them and he is afraid of jail.
Wonder who is his cell mate???
Ron really likes the PR guy that has been in jail longer than the guard
has had his job.............
I wonder who will Ron call tonight? on the eve of Haleigh's 1 year disappearance!!!!

They give meds for a withdrawl they deem unsafe.

 

[OneLostGrl]

There was no "a" in Ron's usage of the word (it was definitely "er"), he said it very plainly. Where I come from, Ga., it isn't ever ok for a white person to use this word...it's not ok here in Va either. He was speaking about all of the black people in his pod when he called them stinking ni****s. This is not socially acceptable, it's racist and very very stupid.

It was very stupid of him. I 'd like to see how he's being treated by his new friends today! lol

 

[passionflower]

For Ron's bad language can he lose his privleges???
I was alittle surprised the bad language wasn't bleeped out.........
GLAD we heard so we know exactly what was said by this wanna be gangsta!
I hope he talks himself into 'LIFE IN JAIL", he ain't afraid!

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

IMO any man that would use that kind of language when speaking to his own grandmother is no man at all and has no respect what so ever for any woman!!!

ITA...IMO it shows he has no respect for himself either and that's not a good thing AT ALL--most who don't respect themself cannot show respect for others PLUS given the entitlement he exhibits, the pervasive concern for his needs and well the language etc...all point to an individual with a flawed sense of self and greatly lacking any real measure of self esteem...IMO MOO etc...

 

[snookie]

But in the South, it is very disrespectful to use the word at all, however you pronounce it, if you are white. Brown people can use the word all they want to in relation to each other, etc, for whatever meaning. It is just not used, period, by white folks...unless they are meaning it in a derrogatory way, and especially never used in front of brown folks, ever, at least in my lifetime. It's just unspoken Southern etiquette. (When I was growing up, people who were born in the 20s, 30s, and 40s, used it regular, and I think it just became an embarrassment for those of us born after that time, and we do not use it. Still, to this day, that is a word that will get you in trouble. We don't even say it amongst just white folks. If you are trying to show racism, then you would maybe use the word, and I have heard some older people use Negro, but we do not use that either. Otherwise, it is just not said.)

Very well said, Anothermom. In my own southern experience, the older folks would refer to black people as "coloreds" -- i.e., "A nice new colored lady just joined our quilting guild..." As un-PC as it may sound now, it was not meant in a disrespectful way at the time. The "N" word was only used by white folks when they were intentionally being ugly towards blacks.

To this day (where I live anyway), the use of the "N" word (ending in "er" or "a") by a white person is not considered nice. Even if you have black friends or family members, it's just not cool.

Some black people choose to use the word amongst themselves, but it's like spitting in their faces to hear whites use it. JMO, but Ronald ought to be ashamed of himself-- not only because it's such a hateful degrading word, but because he is an uncle to bi-racial children. He seems to have no respect for his own flesh and blood.

And don't even get me started on the filthy language he uses when speaking to his grandmother...

A well-mannered southern boy he is NOT.

OT- I live in Wisconsin....born and raised. When we were down south, we were told we have an accent. :waitasec:

You sure do!!

 

[Muffet]

Not to pick on you but there have been several posts of this nature.

Just for the record I stood up for him because my theory is not “RC did it”.

I thought/think that the very things you listed are what made Haleigh vulnerable to a SO.

I wasn’t fooled I just don’t find him as ‘special’ as most of you all do. RC et al types are a dime a dozen around here.

Laughing about the way he talks or mispronounces words sort of lowers the standard of the forum.

I will admit that I thought a poster couldn’t spell when she was spelling work werk until I realized it was their attempt of replicating dialect in an insulting way. IMO

Mizz has a wonderful connotation for me. I hear it every day.

FWIW the n word with an “a” is apparently socially acceptable in certain circles in which African American & whites circulate together and is used by whites even to refer to themselves & each other especially those who think they are gangsta.


IMO

[My red]

Hi, Jade.

I've never thought "RC did it," either. At least not directly. (I simply have no clue, really. ) However, I have always held him *responsible for it,* because of the choices he made, the risks he took, and then for his hindering of the investigation.

I've felt from the beginning that he was hiding something that would be helpful but show his culpability, and that his family was involved in the coverup of whatever the truth may be.

All ^ that to say that I don't think the tension is between those who think "RC did it" and those who don't, but rather between those who encouraged the whitewashing of his lifestyle and character and those who wanted to see accountability and an end to the charade.

The things we've learned over the last months may not show that RC "did it," but I think they most definitely validate the beliefs of those who felt that the person some (like Mizz Nancy and TN) were wanting to portray him to be was not "the real Ron," as Recovering-Lurker put it.

I hope that makes sense...

 

[Muffet]

-snip for space-
A well-mannered southern boy he is NOT.

...Exactly. I don't think any of us would be shocked to learn this or even so offended if it had not been for all the pretense.

It just reminds us of how insulted we felt by all the manipulative "Mizz Nancy"-ing.

 

[grammieto5]

It couldn't be his sister Crystal....he refers and she refers to Teresa as "My Mother" or "Your Mother" respectively.

I was thinking of his exwife, Haleigh's Mom, I think that is her name????

 

[debs]

I was thinking of his exwife, Haleigh's Mom, I think that is her name????

Haleigh's mother was never married to Ronald. She also wouldn't have called him in jail, wouldn't have discussed writing him letters, and definitely wouldn't have discussed being in jail in another State.

 

[Gracenote]

IMO, did they hide Haleigh's death so Ron wouldn't lose JR???
If any called 911 for help if Haleigh was ill, (took OXY) everyone
would be in trouble!
The OXY might of been GGS/TN's..........they would be in trouble.
If Ron hit Haleigh..........child abuse..........
and a druggie under age teen living with Ron????
I don't think that any of them (no brains left from drugs) ever thought this would go international news..........IMO

Right, I think he thought it would blow over like all of his previous arrests and such did. It has blown way beyond what any of them expected. (i.e. I'm always out of jail right after one phone call)

I think it is possible that they are not sure exactly what happened which is why several of them are sticking together. I don't think a single one of them would cover for another out of love or loyalty. (Here boy, here's a Lortab, now go fetch) They would only cover for themselves.

Finally, born and raised in the south as Ron was, the N word is derogatory, racist, and only used by low class trashy people. I sadly include some of my relatives in that group. Maybe it's different in the north/west/canada/mexico but here in the south it is what it is. It's ugly.

Kimster is fixing to kick all of to the curb or put all of us on a bus to Wyoming but I have really enjoyed reading this thread.

 

[grammieto5]

Haleigh's mother was never married to Ronald. She also wouldn't have called him in jail, wouldn't have discussed writing him letters, and definitely wouldn't have discussed being in jail in another State.

Oh, I thought they were married, glad to hear they were never married!!! I was hoping my guess was wrong, I really didn't listen to all of the call, RC really gets on my nerves, as do all of them in this case, but that voice sounded familair to me also. I'm really glad I was wrong, I hope Crystal is rid of RC for good, even though they do have two children together.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

...Exactly. I don't think any of us would be shocked to learn this or even so offended if it had not been for all the pretense.

It just reminds us of how insulted we felt by all the manipulative "Mizz Nancy"-ing.

BBM--insulted yes...but what is really amazing is if you listen to the 911 call--then the interview where his knees hit the ground, the interviews with Shoemaker by his side, the interview outside the tattoo parlor, the appearance on Maury...IMO he panders to what he thinks the "listener" at that particular time wants...we have seen SO many different Rons that it would seem he has no true sense of identity...he is different in the jail house calls with reporter Dana, his gmom and the "friend...he is different with each...quite an interesting study here...JMO...

 

[snookie]

(respectfully snipped)

FWIW the n word with an “a” is apparently socially acceptable in certain circles in which African American & whites circulate together and is used by whites even to refer to themselves & each other especially those who think they are gangsta.
IMO

It seems a lot of white suburban kids do use that word and maybe some of their black friends think it's cool, but Ronald's scenario is different. "Stinky effing N-words" or whatever it was he said was not a friendly shout out to all his "homies". He was being an outright disrespectful jerk.

JMO, but Ronald likes to fight. He's gonna be aggressive there right out of the gate, the drama makes him tick.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Ron's chipped tooth, and these monologues where he goes on and on about showers and shorts and times makes me wonder if his drug of choice isn't meth or crack. Heavy users of it will display these things months or years after quitting.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

It seems a lot of white suburban kids do use that word and maybe some of their black friends think it's cool, but Ronald's scenario is different. "Stinky effing N-words" or whatever it was he said was not a friendly shout out to all his "homies". He was being an outright disrespectful jerk.

JMO, but Ronald likes to fight. He's gonna be aggressive there right out of the gate, the drama makes him tick.

Later on in the tape Ron makes it perfectly clear it is a black/white racial thing when he talks about what him and Chad do at night.

 

[awakewriter]

Here's the thing: I don't know if Ron had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

I do think he has some problems:

- He is extremely polite to Nancy G, but the phone calls show a much darker, much less polite side.

- In the early days of the investigation, I thought some footage of him crying seemed fake. I didn't know if it was faked, or if drugs could be affecting his behavior.

- He had a reason for marrying Misty. It wasn't love, and it wasn't because Haleigh wanted it.

- He obviously has a problem controlling his anger.

I don't know if this all adds up to his involvement with Haleigh's disappearance, but I do think he is a manipulator.

 

[Dion]

The most important thing revealed in those calls to me was that he didn't mention his children. It's always been all about Ron. I have no idea if Ron "did it" or not, but I defnitely think he and a bunch of other people are covering their a$$es instead of telling what happened to Haleigh or finding out what happened to her.

IMO.

I'm thinking that it could be, that any mention of Haleigh (and possibly Jr too, because of the custody thing) was redacted. It doesn't seem likely that he wouldn't have mentioned either of them. We are not hearing too much "useful" stuff in the tapes.

 

[ThommyMac]

My, my, it took me some time to read all the posts. In jail, all they will do is pull a tooth. Upstate, you can get fillings. ALL you will get, by way of pain relief, is 800 mg ibuprofen. That really does the trick, especially if you have been "clean" for a while. As the dentist told me, former (God willing) addicts have a resistance to opiates that is so high, it would take doses that are lethal to others to be effective. I can only speak for Pennsylvania's correctional institution(s) but I would bet the same is true elsewhere.

As far as Ron's use of the "N" word goes, it is NEVER acceptable for a white guy to use it. Even if he talks like Justin Timberlake and wants to be Eminem, ONLY blacks may use it in it's "familiar" form. Not only have I been a guest of the state, I grew up in the Arlington section of Pittsburgh. Immigrant parents see a very inexpensive house, the 'type' of neighbourhood meant nothing to them. I am not trying to say any group is right or wrong, just sharing some experience.

I got a pretty good chuckle out of RC's tough guy talk regarding his 'jailers'. All the guard has to do is 'pull the pin' on their emergency radio and the goon squad will be there so fast he would mistake it for a bad dream. The 5 rules to doing a bid with a minimum of heartache is keep your mouth shut, leave the guards alone, pay what you owe, avoid 'love' triangles, and choose your friends wisely. It is pretty early in the game but it looks like a certain young man is going to have a rough time once he goes 'upstate'. Lurking LE and ex-cons, am I right?

BTW The post about showers making withdrawal a little more bearable was on the money.

 

[txsvicki]

I guess we can all know which prison gang Ron is going to join by his choice of words. The jailhouse conversation with his grandma is no suprise. He used the N word before and cussed like that on the 911 call. Ron's got big problems and doesn't react appropriately at all.