NH NH - Allenstown, Adult Female, 23-33, & 3 Children, under 11, Nov'85 & May'00 #3

[fidgeypie]

Moo - I'm slightly surprised at the DDP being involved, I thought that they didn't work with Children Does

 

[Alleykins]

Moo - I'm slightly surprised at the DDP being involved, I thought that they didn't work with Children Does

They clarify their position on child cases in the FB comments on their announcement for this case:

We do take on child cases when the child was likely old enough to have been given a name. We do not take neonatal cases where the goal is to identify the parents. Our mission is to return the names to Jane and John Does.



DNA Doe Project Why not newborns? They deserve justice as well.



They do deserve justice, but our focus is purely on unidentified remains and returning the names to Jane and John Does. Neonatal cases fall under the category of suspect work, which is outside our mission.

 

[BabyGirlSlueth]

I am almost believing that this Jane Doe is sisters with Denise because if you look at pictures of Denise and compare the composite to Jane Doe, they both have similar traits such as facial structure and the overbite that is mentioned on the Missing Poster. Has Denise provided any DNA to be tested against the DNA of this missing child? Because the way that Rasmussen moved around it could have been possible that Denise Beaudin was forced to have a home birth due to him not wanting to be detected by police. She possibly never reported this child's birth in the proper manner that it should have been reported. If this has happened and I missed this piece of information I apologize ahead of time. Just a thought that I cannot shake for some reason.

 

[iamshadow21]

They clarify their position on child cases in the FB comments on their announcement for this case:

And the suspect is known in this case. So it isn't the case that this Doe is being identified with the aim of arresting someone. Her father - her likely killer - is deceased, and her unknown mother, knowing TPR, is probably another victim.

MOO

 

[Tahlia Woodson]

I am almost believing that this Jane Doe is sisters with Denise because if you look at pictures of Denise and compare the composite to Jane Doe, they both have similar traits such as facial structure and the overbite that is mentioned on the Missing Poster. Has Denise provided any DNA to be tested against the DNA of this missing child? Because the way that Rasmussen moved around it could have been possible that Denise Beaudin was forced to have a home birth due to him not wanting to be detected by police. She possibly never reported this child's birth in the proper manner that it should have been reported. If this has happened and I missed this piece of information I apologize ahead of time. Just a thought that I cannot shake for some reason.

Denise or Dawn (Lisa Jenkins)? Either or, law enforcement have most certainly tested Denise's DNA against the middle child already, and may have tested Dawn's too but I can't be certain. We know that they tested Denise against the adult woman when they first realised that the cases might be connected. Considering that Jane Doe's mother is still considered "unidentified" it's only fair to say that Denise, Dawn, and Jane Doe are not biologically related at all.

Also, Terry was living in/around Arizona and Texas around the time Jane was born, there's no indication that Denise was ever around those states or that they even knew each other at the time.

 

[Stephen2016]

The couple spent Thanksgiving at Beaudin’s family’s home in Goffstown on Nov. 26, 1981, authorities said. Beaudin and Evans did not mention their intent to leave the area at the time.Link to article WMUR

Authorities said that Beaudin’s family visited her Hayward Street home in Manchester on Dec. 1 to find that Beaudin and Evans were gone. Ibid It has been said the child was about 5 or 6 months old and Bob / Terry Rasmussen was not the biological father of Dawn/Lisa. So the biological father of Dawn would of been present about July or August of 1980, estimated.

According to officials, Beaudin had a baby named Dawn with her when she was last seen in 1981. That daughter's whereabouts are known, and she is not considered missing.

WMUR spoke exclusively with Beaudin's father, who said he got to meet his long lost granddaughter just before Christmas. He said that she has a new name, a home out of the state and three children.

 

[GravityHurts]

Last month, I went to New Hampshire to visit some family. While there, I decided to make the drive out to Allenstown to see the grave site. It had been snowing the past couple of days, and the snow was almost undisturbed before I got there.

The original grave, planted before Marlyse, Marie, and Sarah were identified, was-well decorated and rose above the snow. The new grave, with Marlyse and Marie's names, had been buried by the snow. I did my best to uncover it, unfortunately there was some grass growing into it. I pulled some of it away to try and clear the stone, but I didn't have any gardening tools.

It's really nice to see that the four of them, including "Angel", are memorialized, and that people are still thinking about them

 

[Alleykins]

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Stephen2016]

Description:

Believed to be a victim of the serial killer Terry Rasmussen and known to be his biological daughter, this little girl was between 2 and 4 years old at the time of her death. Her remains were found in a barrel on May 9, 2000 on private property near Bear Brook State Park in Allenstown, NH. Updated bioinformatics analysis has revealed that her mother is solely of European descent, and research has shown that she has colonial American ancestry.

NamUs ID:

UP2175

Date Body Found:

May 9, 2000

Race:

White/Caucasian

Sex:

Female

Estimated Age:

2-4 years

Estimated PMI:

Years

Agency of Jurisdiction:

New Hampshire State Police

Christopher Elphick

603-223-3856

[email protected]

More Information:

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Bear Brook murders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Have you seen this child? Jane Allenstown Doe 2000

Missing From: Allenstown, NH. Missing Date: May 9, 2000. This unidentified child was found on May 9, 2000 on private property next to Bear Brook State Park in Allenstown, NH. She was 2 to 4 years old at the time of her death, placing her birthdate between 1975-1977. She had slightly wavy brown...

www.missingkids.org

Serial killer Terry Rasmussen's victims, known and unknown

Authorities have connected five murders to Rasmussen and they fear there are more.

abcnews.go.com

Status:

Research in Progress

Image Credit:

NCMEC

Acknowledgment:

Firebird Forensics worked on this case prior to it coming to the DNA Doe Project in 2024.

Last Updated: October 7, 2024

Posted on
October 7, 2024

My only problem is isotyping shows them together for 2 weeks to 3 months before their demise. This is image of middle child's isotope map: The boxed areas. For some reason NH AG pointed out Minnesota in addition to Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, and New York as potential areas for the middle child's isotopes. My guess but not an absolute is the the mother also may have isotopes in those areas. Possibly an established family in any one of those. Perhaps even related to the Mitchell's or the Living's.

 

[Alleykins]

That part of Maine is so sparsely populated. The northern parts that are more populated up there don't seem to be covered by the isotope area. I don't see how she could be from there, but stranger things have happened. I could see the possibility if the yellow area extended more easterly, where Loring AFB used to be, that would make sense as the base had people from all over, but it doesn't appear to extend that far.

(Please note I'm not saying people don't live in those western covered areas at all. But to the west of the Allagash there's nothing but trees and maybe some hunting/fishing camps.)

 

[GravityHurts]

That part of Maine is so sparsely populated. The northern parts that are more populated up there don't seem to be covered by the isotope area. I don't see how she could be from there, but stranger things have happened. I could see the possibility if the yellow area extended more easterly, where Loring AFB used to be, that would make sense as the base had people from all over, but it doesn't appear to extend that far.

(Please note I'm not saying people don't live in those western covered areas at all. But to the west of the Allagash there's nothing but trees and maybe some hunting/fishing camps.)

I know that it's not in the isotope area, but I thought it was a strong possibility that she was from Texas. TPR is known to have lived and worked around Ingleside, which is near Galveston. Plus, it's relatively close to Mississippi, where Angel/MC's maternal family is from

 

[Frisca]

And the suspect is known in this case. So it isn't the case that this Doe is being identified with the aim of arresting someone. Her father - her likely killer - is deceased, and her unknown mother, knowing TPR, is probably another victim.

MOO

This honestly makes more sense than the stated position on children old enough to have a name. When it comes to toddlers, like this Jane Doe, you're still going to be looking to identify the parents as well, and they'll be under just as much scrutiny. Have they taken on young child cases like this before?

Idk, I think maybe they just couldn't pass on the opportunity to look at this case, which isn't a bad thing at all, maybe a fresh look will help. The explanation just doesn't really fit.

 

[LizzieParker]

My only problem is isotyping shows them together for 2 weeks to 3 months before their demise. This is image of middle child's isotope map: The boxed areas. For some reason NH AG pointed out Minnesota in addition to Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, and New York as potential areas for the middle child's isotopes. My guess but not an absolute is the the mother also may have isotopes in those areas. Possibly an established family in any one of those. Perhaps even related to the Mitchell's or the Living's.
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Oh, wow, the Minnesota part is different. Thanks for sharing. I thought they estimated she was from further west. My dad's family comes from around that area in MN, it's pretty rural, for the most part. Lots of Polish/English/German/Irish going on there.

 

[The4TierBridge]

Today is the 25th anniversary of the discovery of the second barrel.

 

[Alleykins]

My only problem is isotyping shows them together for 2 weeks to 3 months before their demise. This is image of middle child's isotope map: The boxed areas. For some reason NH AG pointed out Minnesota in addition to Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, and New York as potential areas for the middle child's isotopes. My guess but not an absolute is the the mother also may have isotopes in those areas. Possibly an established family in any one of those. Perhaps even related to the Mitchell's or the Living's.
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If the MC's maternal line is through the Livings and Mitchells, their core families pretty much stayed in the MS and LA areas. For example, a branch of the Livings ended up in Chicago, and a branch of the Mitchell line ended up in CA, but that branch ended with one child who doesn't appear to have had any children. She would have been a perfect candidate for the MC's mother, but I don't know how closely related her line was to the MC. Man, I wish I could ask someone. I tried, but no one ever got back to me when it was with the original research group.

 

[forthevictims]

Oxygen Channel will be airing the episode on Terry Rasmussen this Sunday 06/08/2025 on their "Unknown serial killers" series.