NH NH - Elizabeth Marriott, 19, Durham, 9 Oct 2012 - #10 *S. Mazzaglia guilty*

[HauntsForHope]

Light a Candle for Lizzi

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Lizzi​

 

[Skigirl]

Don't understand why Kat did not get charged with conspiracy to commit murder. Then she could have still been witness for prosecution and gotten a leeser sentence but more than 1and1/2 years.
If ever in trouble I want Kat's lawyer.

Maybe the prosecutors had no idea how ugly the truth was. Maybe they sort of believed that there was a tragic accident and felt that KM was only guilty of helping to cover it up, and it wasn't until KM told her version of the story that they realized they would have had a lot of additional things to charge her with.

 

[Skigirl]

I just saw a tweet saying that the defense was back in the courtroom and that the prosecutor had just gone in as well.

 

[Chelly]

i just saw a tweet saying that the defense was back in the courtroom and that the prosecutor had just gone in as well.

source of the tweet?

 

[Skigirl]

It's a jury question (source: @prescott_andrea)

 

[Chelly]

she tweets that there is a juror question.

 

[Chelly]

where the heck is jen crompton? She stopped tweeting?

 

[zoey]

where the heck is jen crompton? She stopped tweeting?

not that I'm judging but I noticed that afternoons and Jen Crompton could be slow---:blushing:

 

[Jewels53]

CC ‏@courtchatter 8m
The jury has a question in #SethMazzaglia; Stream has not come on yet.
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I just saw this

 

[geevee]

Trial Queen Sharee @TrialQnSharee · 1m

Question came and went....wasn't read in court, no livestream...deliberations resume #SethMazzaglia

 

[Chelly]

not that I'm judging but I noticed that afternoons and Jen Crompton could be slow---:blushing:

thanks, glad you are on the ball. WHEW!

 

[borndem]

OT: When Hulsey brought his gun with him out of the vehicle, shows premeditation to me. However the murder was not "planned" in advance if that is what you are asking.

Bingo!! Chelly!! He thought about it and decided to get his gun.

He could have flown into a rage and charged him & knocked him down and beat him to death. If that was what killed him, I could go with 1st or 2nd degree. But that is not what happened. It's as you said, and Hulsey is clearly guilty of M1. Hulsey was not planning to kill a LEO when he got in the back seat of that car. But he did not get his gun to shoot him in the leg, either. He shot to kill. Period.

Same with SM -- as far as we know. Did he have a fantasy of snuffing out someone's life that night -- just to experience it?? It's possible, IMO. We'll never know. He had the rope in his hands and he pulled it. Reckless disregard -- certainly. He was intelligent enuff to know that if he pulled it too hard or too long, she could die. That's why he said he blacked out -- that, in his mind, erased intent. BS. He could have pulled her hair, or patted her head or any number of things that would not have risked her life. But he pulled on the rope and the rope was intentionally put around her neck. Her neck.

Please excuse the rant...

 

[Jewels53]

Maybe the prosecutors had no idea how ugly the truth was. Maybe they sort of believed that there was a tragic accident and felt that KM was only guilty of helping to cover it up, and it wasn't until KM told her version of the story that they realized they would have had a lot of additional things to charge her with.

The prosecution had her GJ testimony though to go by. Remember what she told the defense investigator was supposed to be a lie. jmo

 

[Coldpizza]

Guys, it appears that is not a MSM tweet nor from the normal trial tweeters so it's not allowed. Court Chatter, WAT etc, are approved with a ink and no hashtag commentary please.

:tyou:

 

[Jewels53]

Bingo!! Chelly!! He thought about it and decided to get his gun.

He could have flown into a rage and charged him & knocked him down and beat him to death. If that was what killed him, I could go with 1st or 2nd degree. But that is not what happened. It's as you said, and Hulsey is clearly guilty of M1. Hulsey was not planning to kill a LEO when he got in the back seat of that car. But he did not get his gun to shoot him in the leg, either. He shot to kill. Period.

Same with SM -- as far as we know. Did he have a fantasy of snuffing out someone's life that night -- just to experience it?? It's possible, IMO. We'll never know. He had the rope in his hands and he pulled it. Reckless disregard -- certainly. He was intelligent enuff to know that if he pulled it too hard or too long, she could die. That's why he said he blacked out -- that, in his mind, erased intent. BS. He could have pulled her hair, or patted her head or any number of things that would not have risked her life. But he pulled on the rope and the rope was intentionally put around her neck. Her neck.

Please excuse the rant...

That was my point though, it takes only seconds or fore thought and it can be classified as premeditated murder. or M1

 

[Skigirl]

Guys, it appears that is not a MSM tweet nor from the normal trial tweeters so it's not allowed. Court Chatter, WAT etc, are approved with a ink and no hashtag commentary please.

:tyou:

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the rules around tweets. Are we allowed to say that there was a tweet and let others look for themselves, or are we not allowed to mention the tweets if they are not from main stream media?

 

[borndem]

I just saw a tweet saying that the defense was back in the courtroom and that the prosecutor had just gone in as well.

Followed by Amanda Lamb (WRAL) and 1 other
CC ‏@courtchatter 19m
The jury has a question in #SethMazzaglia; Stream has not come on yet.

 

[Skigirl]

The prosecution had her GJ testimony though to go by. Remember what she told the defense investigator was supposed to be a lie. jmo

Oh... I thought she was granted immunity before she testified to the GJ. Wow, she really took a risk!

 

[Chelly]

Bingo!! Chelly!! He thought about it and decided to get his gun.

He could have flown into a rage and charged him & knocked him down and beat him to death. If that was what killed him, I could go with 1st or 2nd degree. But that is not what happened. It's as you said, and Hulsey is clearly guilty of M1. Hulsey was not planning to kill a LEO when he got in the back seat of that car. But he did not get his gun to shoot him in the leg, either. He shot to kill. Period.

Same with SM -- as far as we know. Did he have a fantasy of snuffing out someone's life that night -- just to experience it?? It's possible, IMO. We'll never know. He had the rope in his hands and he pulled it. Reckless disregard -- certainly. He was intelligent enuff to know that if he pulled it too hard or too long, she could die. That's why he said he blacked out -- that, in his mind, erased intent. BS. He could have pulled her hair, or patted her head or any number of things that would not have risked her life. But he pulled on the rope and the rope was intentionally put around her neck. Her neck.

Please excuse the rant...

YUP, And as an aside, I am getting tired of perps claiming they "blacked out" and have no memory of committing a crime. That exact defense was used last week at a trial I sat through in my city. Defendant was convicted of M2.

I'd give Seth M2 along with guilty on the other charges as well. You?

 

[Chelly]

Guys, it appears that is not a MSM tweet nor from the normal trial tweeters so it's not allowed. Court Chatter, WAT etc, are approved with a ink and no hashtag commentary please.

:tyou:

thanks Coldpizza. Got excited and forgot the rules. I've settled down now. Back under control (whatever THAT is). :scared: