NH NH - Elizabeth Marriott, 19, Durham, 9 Oct 2012 - # 6 *S. Mazzaglia guilty*

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  • #161
if i try to do something, he'll hurt me too
 
  • #162
At some point in all of her "stories" she claimed he was winning a lot.

Oh, I thought she said she lost almost every hand (or 'round' lol) during the defense stataement. I still need to rewatch that one.
 
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he was strangling her at t time, but her body wasn't really moving...i shut that one (window) as well
 
  • #165
I no longer believe this version of seth just up and strangling Lizzi. I don't believe that seth thought he 'controlled' kat to the extent that he could anything and she would remain compliant.

I still can't believe Lizzi didn't fight.
 
  • #166
he hadn't said anything up to that point, and he told me to call Roberta...i didn't want to cause i was scared...
 
  • #167
Isn't one of the tells of a lie the looking away by the liar? She's doing a lot of looking down and away while this is being played.
 
  • #168
kat is breathing pretty hard. good!
 
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She was in a seated position and he moved her onto the ground

Is that new^^^
 
  • #171
That text from Seth will play huge in this.. Kat knew what was going to happen.
 
  • #172
I still can't believe Lizzi didn't fight.

If she didn't put up a fight then she was drugged or bound.

I claim bs on seth saying she must pull on the ropes. Why? According to her testimony Lizzi wasn't moving. And bs on the 'I tied it loosely around her neck'
 
  • #173
Isn't one of the tells of a lie the looking away by the liar? She's doing a lot of looking down and away while this is being played.

When the Judge was talking to Jury about her prior sworn stmts--she looked down--the rest of the instructions she looked at him-
 
  • #174
She was in a seated position and he moved her onto the ground

Is that new^^^

I thought she was on the lying on floor while Seth strangled her. I knew he came up behind her.
 
  • #175
She was in a seated position and he moved her onto the ground

Is that new^^^

don't think so......she said that before i think..

was sitting on ground in front of futon, afterward laid out flat face up
 
  • #176
that's when he began having sex w/her missionary style he was being rough i was just being shocked then he finished turned to me & said comme here, he told me to hold t rope while he went to bathrm

u need to hold t rope & i held it down on either side of her neck & i wasn't putting any force on it, she was already gone...

Epiph: I don't believe her
 
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When did they get dressed?
 
  • #179
That text from Seth will play huge in this.. Kat knew what was going to happen.

What got me--Kat said it was a "meeting"--who calls a friends visit a "meeting"
 
  • #180
that's when he began having sex w/her missionary style he was being rough i was just being shocked then he finished turned to me & said comme here, he told me to hold t rope while he went to bathrm

u need to hold t rope & i held it down on either side of her neck & i wasn't putting any force on it, she was already gone...

Epiph: I don't believe her

neither do I :seeya:
 
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