NJ NJ- Camden, under porch of abandoned house, Fem BLK, 16-20, 5'2''-5'', #1004UFNJ, orange 'Jacques Moret' swimsuit, stabbed & decapitated, 28/4/79

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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

No info on how she died or for how long, no photo of her, her clothing or jewelry. Imagine if she was JUST 17. Anyway here's the adress she was found...

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Case Numbers
NCMEC Number1184300
ME/C Case NumberA-79-15
Demographics
SexFemale
Race / EthnicityBlack / African American
Possible First Name--
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last Name--
Possible Nickname--
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 20
Estimated Age Range (Years)17-20
Estimated Year of Death1979
Estimated PMI--
Height5' 3"(63 inches) , Estimated
WeightCannot Estimate
Circumstances
TypeUnidentified Deceased
Date FoundApril 28, 1979
NamUs Case CreatedApril 1, 2008
ME/C QA Reviewed--
Location Found Map
Street Address406 Grant StreetCamden, New Jersey
CountyCamden County
GPS Coordinates--
Circumstances of RecoveryBody found in Camden County, NJ.
Details of Recovery


Inventory of RemainsAll parts recovered
Condition of RemainsNot recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
Physical Description
Hair ColorBlack
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye ColorUnknown or Missing
Right Eye ColorUnknown or Missing
Eye Description--
Distinctive Physical Features
No Known Information



Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Clothing
Heavy slacks (Sears brown pants (size 7)). Orange swim or body suit, labeled, "Jacques Moret", size small. Panties, size medium.
On the Body

Jewelry
Wrist bracelet- Think metal loop with tension closure. Necklace- 6" Thin, yellow metal chain.
On the Body
 
  • #2
CASE NUMBER - 1004UFNJ

Date of Discovery: April 28, 1979
Location of Discovery: Camden, Camden County, New Jersey
Estimated Date of Death: January 1, 1979
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
Cause of Death: Homicide

Physical Description

Estimated Age: 16 - 20 years old
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Height: 5'2" - 5'5"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Black
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Deciduous tooth present.

Identifiers

Dentals: Available. Mandible not recovered.
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Not Available

Clothing & Personal Items

Clothing: "Sears" brown bell bottom pants (Size 7, waist 24 inches, length 41 inches), panties (size medium), and an orange "Jacques Moret" swim or body suit (size small)
Jewelry: Wrist bracelet (thin metal loop with tension closure). Six inch gold necklace.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery

The victim's headless body was discovered under the porch of an abandoned house in Newark. It is believed the victim was decapitated after she died. She had been stabbed at least eight times and her hands and feet had been bound. Eleven years later in November 1990, the skull was found.

The skull was discovered under tons of rubble by construction workers in a rowhouse in North Camden, about a block away from the Newark location. The rowhouse had been vacant for several years. Forensic experts determined the skull and body were from the same person.

She may have possibly been homeless and may have been from the Delaware Valley area. In 1991, a forensic reconstruction of the victim was completed but is currently unavailable.
 
  • #3
Here's an article I found that has a picture of the recon in it. Will send on to the namus contact
 

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  • #4
The "Jacque Moret" clothing item was likely something like a dance leotard, I'm guessing. The company was founded in 1975 in NY, NY and initially manufactured dance apparel. The Moret group is now huge and owns brands like Danskin, Jockey, and many more.

I get the impression that her "orange body suit" was possibly for dance lessons.
 
  • #5
The "Jacque Moret" clothing item was likely something like a dance leotard, I'm guessing. The company was founded in 1975 in NY, NY and initially manufactured dance apparel. The Moret group is now huge and owns brands like Danskin, Jockey, and many more.

I get the impression that her "orange body suit" was possibly for dance lessons.

I don't know- but back then (I was in my early 20s) If you were wearing hip-huggers, you might wear a body suit because a regular shirt would come untucked all the time. I had many such suits- they had a snap crotch for obvious reasons- thus differentiating it from dancewear. I wonder which type hers was?
 
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  • #7
When I began reading about this UID, it reminds me of the teenager that was beheaded in St. Louis and left in an abandoned building in 1983...

WEBSLEUTHS THREAD
 
  • #8
She was just a baby. :(
 
  • #9
@othram another one you may be interested in. I really do have to hold back on the recommendations. ;) There are soooo many.
 
  • #10
@othram another one you may be interested in. I really do have to hold back on the recommendations. ;) There are soooo many.
Not a problem. Suggest away. We are trying to help as many cases as possible.
 
  • #11

The victim's headless body was discovered under the porch of an abandoned house in Newark. It is believed the victim was decapitated after she died. She had been stabbed at least eight times and her hands and feet had been bound. Eleven years later in November 1990, the skull was found.

The skull was discovered under tons of rubble by construction workers in a rowhouse in North Camden, about a block away from the Newark location. The rowhouse had been vacant for several years. Forensic experts determined the skull and body were from the same person.

She may have possibly been homeless and may have been from the Delaware Valley area. In 1991, a forensic reconstruction of the victim was completed but is currently unavailable.
 
  • #12

1004UFNJ​

Date of Discovery: April 28, 1979
Location of Discovery: Camden, Camden County, New Jersey
Estimated Date of Death: January 1, 1979
State of Remains: Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction
Cause of Death: Homicide

Physical Description​

Estimated Age: 16 - 20 years old
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Height: 5'2" - 5'5"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Black
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Deciduous tooth present.

Identifiers​

Dentals: Available. Mandible not recovered.
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Not Available

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: "Sears" brown bell bottom pants (Size 7, waist 24 inches, length 41 inches), panties (size medium), and an orange "Jacques Moret" swim or body suit (size small)
Jewelry: Wrist bracelet (thin metal loop with tension closure). Six inch gold necklace.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery​

The victim's headless body was discovered under the porch of an abandoned house in Newark. It is believed the victim was decapitated after she died. She had been stabbed at least eight times and her hands and feet had been bound. Eleven years later in November 1990, the skull was found.

The skull was discovered under tons of rubble by construction workers in a rowhouse in North Camden, about a block away from the Newark location. The rowhouse had been vacant for several years. Forensic experts determined the skull and body were from the same person.

She may have possibly been homeless and may have been from the Delaware Valley area. In 1991, a forensic reconstruction of the victim was completed but is currently unavailable.''
 
  • #13
ASE INFORMATIONThe victim's body was found on April 28, 1979. It was discovered under a porch of an abandoned house in Camden, N.J.
NIC#U160046194
Case Number79-27323; 90-11-28-158
Date Body FoundApril 28, 1979
Estimated Date of DeathJanuary 1, 1979
BIOLOGICAL PROFILE
Estimated Year of Birth1959-1962
SexFemale
RaceBlack
Height5'2" - 5'5"
WeightUnknown
HairBlack
EyesUnknown
SCARS, MARKS, TattoosUnknown
JEWELRYThe victim was wearing a wrist bracelet (thin metal loop with tension closure) and a six (6) inch gold necklace.
CLOTHINGThe victim was found wearing heavy "Sears" brown "bell bottom" pants (Size 7, Waist 24 inches, Length 41 inches), panties (Size Medium), and an orange "Jacques Moret" swim or body suit (Size Small).
Other InformationDeciduous Tooth Present
MISC.Full x-ray and dental records are available for comparison.

If you have any information about this case or the identification of this individual, please contact:
The New Jersey State Police at 1-800-709-7090 or e-mail at [email protected]
.

Camden County Prosecutor's Office #856-225-8400

 
  • #14
Who's making these weird assumptions?

I'm woman. I wore one piece swimsuits and bodysuits once or twice. I had to practice rough sleeping once or twice. And - unless I had absolutely no other choice I'd never choose to walk around wearing something so inconvenient in case of needing to pee. Or to wear it even a minute longer than activities like:
a) going to the pool/beach and back,
b) going to the gym/fitness class and back,
c) going out somewhere to look nice in the outfit for a few hours.
Anything more than that and it'd be unbearably uncomfortable.

How many homeless teenage girls are wearing GOLD necklaces?!

"She may have possibly been homeless and may have been from the Delaware Valley area."

Sure, she may have possibly been homeless. But there is like zero hints pointing at that available so why it's even there?
 
  • #15
I'm confused. Newark and Camden are far apart yet it mentions that the Camden location was a block away from the Newark location. It's literally hours apart
 
  • #16
Who's making these weird assumptions?

I'm woman. I wore one piece swimsuits and bodysuits once or twice. I had to practice rough sleeping once or twice. And - unless I had absolutely no other choice I'd never choose to walk around wearing something so inconvenient in case of needing to pee. Or to wear it even a minute longer than activities like:
a) going to the pool/beach and back,
b) going to the gym/fitness class and back,
c) going out somewhere to look nice in the outfit for a few hours.
Anything more than that and it'd be unbearably uncomfortable.

How many homeless teenage girls are wearing GOLD necklaces?!

"She may have possibly been homeless and may have been from the Delaware Valley area."

Sure, she may have possibly been homeless. But there is like zero hints pointing at that available so why it's even there?
I think it may be a body suit as it says heavy brown bell bottoms on the state police link. Nobody wears heavy pants and a bathing suit
 
  • #17
I think it may be a body suit as it says heavy brown bell bottoms on the state police link.
I looked through many ads with vintage swimsuits and fitness/body suits by "Jacques Moret" brand. And although at this moment I havent found any that would be orange, most of my findings look like one of the three below.

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Basically each of these could be used as swimsuit and bodysuit, but I'd think of something closer to the first from the left than first from the right to understand that uncertaintity.

Her outfit could look like this:
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Nobody wears heavy pants and a bathing suit
Plenty of women do. At least where I live pool is billed hourly, and especially back in the day the waiting line for changing room/wc was endless, so whoever could change into swimsuit at home and get to the pool in reasonable time was skipping changing rooms and going straight to the showers.

But UID also had panties, so most likely it was bodysuit. Possibly even with longer sleeves.
 
  • #18
I'm confused. Newark and Camden are far apart yet it mentions that the Camden location was a block away from the Newark location. It's literally hours apart
Good eye.

Another question is: what that composite sketch made in 1991 was used for?
Cause surely any press publication would make that sketch available in archives.
 
  • #19
How many homeless teenage girls are wearing GOLD necklaces?!
It's says gold which I'm thinking is the color, as opposed to silver in color. I'd think if it was 14K (or 12K, 10K or 18K) it would be stated as such, and not just "gold". But I could be wrong about that. :)
 
  • #20
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Source: Camden Jane Doe Recon

So there IS more info. Not much more, but more.

She was stabbed, dismembered and body parts dumped in the basements of two vacant houses, separated by a common alley in North Camden.
So it was like literally next door house.

One moment it says "basement", but it doesn't really look like these houses have basements. I checked out ads on realtor and most of the similar looking ones in the area seem to not have a basement.
Later it says "under the porch". Which sounds kinda crazy, cause (I got the exact address from the article) the area is so dense, all houses look like they were there in 70s, and dozens of them face what would be the front porch of that house (now there is just somebody's veggie garden on both properties I assume her remains were found at).
Who hides a body of a decapitated, murdered child under the FRONT PORCH of a house surrounded by bunch of other houses?
Then the head was hidden under the rubble in the house next door.

Estimated time of death: Summer 1978
Body found: April 1979
Reconstruction presented (along with her clothing on some unspecified event, at some unspecified location to unspecific crowd by prosecutor) on March 1991. This weird thing (I mean the article) is phrased like it was the first time?
They never tried to "trigger somebodys memory" before 1991?!
And how hard they were trying then if they didn't even put a picture of her clothing and jewelry or things similar to what she was wearing or - to the very least - a sketch?
Only this weirdly angled picture, focused on fitting Mr Borden in the frame and emphasizing on the useless chin (if jaw bone wasn't recovered, then chin had to be anthropologist's best guess, not really a memory-triggering material for anyone).
 

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