AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Maria Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, 16 Sept 2019

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I'm sooo thankful this has quickly been found not to be the case at all.

I don't think I could take seeing another traumatized parent or parents be cruelly vilified in the worst most nightmarish times of ther lives when their young precious children have been abducted, and know they are in such grave danger. :(

The wait, the unknown has to be the most terrifying time of all. Praying for the best outcome, yet knowing it may not happen.

Jmho
 
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Forgive me if it's already been mentioned, but the ice cream came from a Sonoco convenience store according to the article.
That makes more sense since there are photos of them in that store and she is looking at ice cream. The confusion is from reporting then, because I posted another article upthread that stated they had just come from getting ice cream at a custard stand. A gas station convenience store and a custard stand are not the same. However, this is probably irrelevant at this point.
 
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Forgive me if it's already been mentioned, but the ice cream came from a Sonoco convenience store according to the article.

Thank you. There seems to be some confusion for some of where or what type of business it actually is.

Jmho
 
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That makes more sense since there are photos of them in that store and she is looking at ice cream. The confusion is from reporting then, because I posted another article upthread that stated they had just come from getting ice cream at a custard stand. A gas station convenience store and a custard stand are not the same. However, this is probably irrelevant at this point.

More than ever before, I think tragically it's become very common place for inconsistencies to be found in all of the MSM today including very important inconsistencies as well.

I agree. It's probably irrelevant at this point.

Jmho
 
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This article had some really good tidbits of info..

The mother had said:
“The police think our family did this,” she told NJ Advance Media. “They think I did something to her. I didn’t. I love my daughter. I would never do nothing bad to her."

I had no idea they were suspicious of her..

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“While police initially said they had no evidence of an abduction, they noted late Tuesday that during “interviewing and re-interviewing” witnesses they gained information that led to the Amber Alert.”

Clearly no CCTV but also seemingly beneficial because it sounds like multiple people had input. Oh and also... RED PANTS AND ORANGE SHOES!!!! Someone knows who this is.. they just need to hear it and come forward!
 
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This article had some really good tidbits of info..

The mother had said:
“The police think our family did this,” she told NJ Advance Media. “They think I did something to her. I didn’t. I love my daughter. I would never do nothing bad to her."

I had no idea they were suspicious of her..

Also..
“While police initially said they had no evidence of an abduction, they noted late Tuesday that during “interviewing and re-interviewing” witnesses they gained information that led to the Amber Alert.”

Clearly no CCTV but also seemingly beneficial because it sounds like multiple people had input. Oh and also... RED PANTS AND ORANGE SHOES!!!! Someone knows who this is.. they just need to hear it and come forward!
While I don't necessary disagree with a family connection, I don't believe the mom is involved. I do think it's most likely someone local, however. That park and area are frequented mainly by people who live or work in the area. Or go to school near there. Somebody has to know it's there and where the playgrounds and parking lots are, etc. The zoo (and perhaps the beach area near the lake) are the only reason people from out of the area would be visiting that park.

I've had my kids there at the zoo when they were little, and my daughter's senior class had their end-of-year picnic at the lake many years ago. It tended to be a safer place to visit in those days. IMO
 
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From the article: "Police announced Tuesday night that Alvavez was taken by a light skinned possibly Hispanic male, standing between 5-foot-6 and 5-foot-8 with a thin build, no facial hair, acne on face, wearing orange sneakers (Possibly Nike), red pants and a black shirt. The male led Dulce's from the play ground to a red van with a sliding side door and tinted windows. Dulce was seated in the back seat by the male and the male drove away with Dulce at approximately 4:20 p.m., police said."
Holy GOD, please be safe Dulce
 
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The mother had said:
“The police think our family did this,” she told NJ Advance Media. “They think I did something to her. I didn’t. I love my daughter. I would never do nothing bad to her."

I had no idea they were suspicious of her..
Does LE usually tell the family they're suspicious of them even if they're not, just to see their response? That's what they do on tv. (It's a real question, not trying to be facetious or anything.)
 
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IMO, this sounds like a stranger abduction. I hope there is video that may have captured the license plate of the Red Van. Praying this little girl is, will be, found safe.
 
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This article had some really good tidbits of info..

The mother had said:
“The police think our family did this,” she told NJ Advance Media. “They think I did something to her. I didn’t. I love my daughter. I would never do nothing bad to her."

I had no idea they were suspicious of her..

Also..
“While police initially said they had no evidence of an abduction, they noted late Tuesday that during “interviewing and re-interviewing” witnesses they gained information that led to the Amber Alert.”

Clearly no CCTV but also seemingly beneficial because it sounds like multiple people had input. Oh and also... RED PANTS AND ORANGE SHOES!!!! Someone knows who this is.. they just need to hear it and come forward!

From the same article.

"At the park, Dulce and her 3-year-old brother ran off to play, while the mom stayed in the vehicle with an 8-year-old relative, Chief Gaimari said on Tuesday.

After about 10 minutes, the 3-year-old ran back to the car crying and pointed to the area where he said he last saw his sister, which included some storage buildings near the playground."
 
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Does LE usually tell the family they're suspicious of them even if they're not, just to see their response? That's what they do on tv. (It's a real question, not trying to be facetious or anything.)
Perhaps just from the way they were questioning her, what they were asking her and that they were questioning her at all. She may not understand that LE has to ask certain questions as protocol in order to narrow down what happened. I'd be surprised if they came right out and told her she was a suspect. Or that her family was.
 
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I have no doubt the FBI is going through all of the video footage they may have at the convenience store to see if they can find the abductor in any of it including any footage that may be outside or on the sides or the front wider area view. Or all available footage in the area.

I remember another case of an abduction years ago. That little girl had gone to buy candy with her family, iirc, and she ran outside to wait in the car which was parked on the side of the building. When the rest came out she was gone.

The abductor had seen her going into the store then saw her come out alone. Like most, she was found later, raped, and murdered.

I'm sorry her name escapes me at the moment.

So maybe this pedophile first spotted her there?

It does show how children can be abducted in a blink of an eye without any warning, and no time to react.

Jmho
 
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Child Abduction Statistics for Parents.

Based on the identity of the perpetrator, there are three distinct types of kidnapping: kidnapping by a relative of the victim or "family kidnapping" (49 percent), kidnapping by an acquaintance of the victim or "acquaintance kidnapping" (27 percent), and kidnapping by a stranger to the victim or "stranger kidnapping" (24 percent).

Family kidnapping :

Acquaintance kidnapping:

Stranger kidnapping:


Explanations in link below.

Child Abduction Statistics for Parents
 
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Perhaps just from the way they were questioning her, what they were asking her and that they were questioning her at all. She may not understand that LE has to ask certain questions as protocol in order to narrow down what happened. I'd be surprised if they came right out and told her she was a suspect. Or that her family was.

At least this time they didn't waste days, weeks or even months harassing her or her family, when the abductors were still walking around dangerous, and free to possibly harm other children, which has happened way too often in these same set of dire circumstances.

Jmhoo
 
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Yes, Amber Alert.

The man led Dulce from the playground to a red van with a sliding side door and tinted windows. Dulce was seated in the back seat by the man who drove away with her at approximately 4:20 p.m., police said.
AMBER ALERT Issued for Missing 5-Year-Old Girl

Ugh, I feel sick.
Same here -- my heart sank when I read the article. Her chances of survival, based on what we're seen here and on other cases on MSM, are not good at all. We may see a change in search patterns and type of activity of LE today. I'd like to know how Dulce reacted/acted while going with this person to the truck...
Hoping for good news, but also thinking in real terms.
SMH.
 
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