NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

[mpnola]

What is a tactical holographic gun accessory he got from amazon and used in the attacks?

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[TeaTime]

She has always been suspect to me. The same woman who loaded the magazines, let him use her employee card at the hotel also just so happened to be out of the country with $100K of his money when the massacre occurred?

How conveniently convenient.

 

[kittythehare]

I worry about her safety with this information out there.
Worried that someone will take justice into their own hands because it's taking too long and they believe she's guilty from what was released.
I really wish they had clarified whether they intend to charge her or believe she's innocent.
Or just objected to the released since it's still an active investigation.

I do as well.I had a look on Twitter and sure enough the bloodlust is all in her direction right now. The usual ultra right wing brigade are in full swing.. I had to block about 100 accounts..
Imagine if it happened? If someone decided to 'take justice into their own hands?


It is dangerous and tragic in equal measure because nobody knows a single thing about who or what she is or is not.

If the release was tactical, it was a roaring success.

I think tread carefully and hope someone busts this story into truth sometime soon.

But I feel snarly inside which happens when I feel a sense of futility in relation to truth becoming revealed.

 

[cujenn81]

Sheriff says he expects to deliver update on Las Vegas shooting soon

Updated January 13, 2018 - 3:57 pm

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Saturday that he expects to have a news conference “probably in a week” to discuss the state of the investigation into the Oct. 1 mass shooting on the Strip. However, he added that he does not expect the update to include a “keystone piece” on gunman Stephen Paddock’s motive.

“The frustrating thing for me as head of the law enforcement has been the ‘keyboard bandits,’ you know, the guys who sit on their couches at their home and Monday morning quarterback everything you do.”

Gee, Sheriff.
It must be horrible dealing with all these "keyboard bandits" demanding answers to questions that should have been easily obtained. How dare they demand accountability from the LVMPD!


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[cujenn81]

I have no clue either about guns, bullets cartridges bump stock or magazines..but I reckon they will have been able to trace where he purchased each by now and at least form a timeline of when she could have done it.

Other big question is, if she was his assistant, though we know she was not there while the massacre took place, whether she assisted as in the way you suggested, get them off the table- or instigator..
My hackles are well up on this one.. her prints on the bullets could well be more crazy thinking on the part of the authorities, being those with the information, deciding the public needs a scapegoat to take heat of Mr Lombardo and co or whether they have real reason to suspect she had a higher involvement than we know.

If she is innocent, I think its questionable ethics releasing the information that her prints were on the bullets, some bullets, unspecified bullets from an unspecified time..
I wish a proper journalist would interview her.

My biggest concern is not that she helped him load the magazines, necessarily. It's the fact that she didn't mention this information to the FBI until they obtained the DNA buccal swab from her and then she just blurted it out.

 

[kittythehare]

My biggest concern is not that she helped him load the magazines, necessarily. It's the fact that she didn't mention this information to the FBI until they obtained the DNA buccal swab from her and then she just blurted it out.

Is that actually how it went down? My understanding is that she immediately made herself available to the fBI on her return. My understanding is that a buccal swab was taken in the course of that first meeting.. Where is the blurt? Did she not just tell them having decided in advance to tell them?
I just need to be sure.

 

[dizzychick]

What is a tactical holographic gun accessory he got from amazon and used in the attacks?

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http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights

 

[dizzychick]

My biggest concern is not that she helped him load the magazines, necessarily. It's the fact that she didn't mention this information to the FBI until they obtained the DNA buccal swab from her and then she just blurted it out.

are we sure about that? And If I were her, I would get the He** out of dodge or Nevada and go back where my family was, assuming she was allowed to keep the money he gave her, she may do better over there where her family can support her. I would not want to be in this country if my boyfriend was SP, just saying

 

[mpnola]

http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights

Oh wow. Terrifying.

I also noticed he had glass cutters (there was lots of speculation about how he got through the window) and also that at home he had suitcases packed with ammo/ guns. That's exactly what I pictured. Rolling suitcases that had weapons, rather than clothes. No one would know any differently.

I am hoping accessing the ip addresses with those emails tells something. It was in July. So this was not a "snapped and shot" situation. Those emails definitely seem like code. "The eagle has landed" type of messages. Someone or someones are involved in this. This was not lone wolf.

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[Deleted member 158085]

My biggest concern is not that she helped him load the magazines, necessarily. It's the fact that she didn't mention this information to the FBI until they obtained the DNA buccal swab from her and then she just blurted it out.

She could have loaded those magazines months ago, thinking he was going to the range. I'm not sure I would think about telling LE this immediately if it wasn't very recent that I had done this. She may had no reason to believe that the bullets she loaded were used in this attack. We just don't know yet. It's something I may think to mention later down the line, but not immediately in the aftermath if I am simply in shock.

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[dixiegirl1035]

Oh wow. Terrifying.

I also noticed he had glass cutters (there was lots of speculation about how he got through the window) and also that at home he had suitcases packed with ammo/ guns. That's exactly what I pictured. Rolling suitcases that had weapons, rather than clothes. No one would know any differently.

I am hoping accessing the ip addresses with those emails tells something. It was in July. So this was not a "snapped and shot" situation. Those emails definitely seem like code. "The eagle has landed" type of messages. Someone or someones are involved in this. This was not lone wolf.

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This may be on topic or off-topic I'm not sure?

I recall a case a few years back where someone did something, either in the government or?, and they were using an email where other people knew how to log into it, and they saved stuff to send to each other as drafts. The co-conspirators then logged into the email account with their passwords, were able to see the drafts and delete the drafts so it never went through the server? Can somebody answer what I'm thinking of in my mind that I work all but can't remember?

 

[ohreally]

I have been reading back to some of the first reports on MD. In October 5 news stories she was considered a person of interest. What I remember, but cannot find the links to was that her passport had some type of travel hold. I would like to know of the status of either of those have been changed. Law enforcement was also saying that while she was being cooperaive they believe she was holding back information.
I find it suspicious that she set her sight to private a half hour after the room was breached. When was her name first mentioned on police radio? When they saw she wasn't in the room or when they saw that she was registered for the room?
MD reminds me of the Pulse shooters wife. I don't know if I believe she was an active participant in the plan or if she just knew about it and didn't say anything.

 

[Gardenista]

This may be on topic or off-topic I'm not sure?

I recall a case a few years back where someone did something, either in the government or?, and they were using an email where other people knew how to log into it, and they saved stuff to send to each other as drafts. The co-conspirators then logged into the email account with their passwords, were able to see the drafts and delete the drafts so it never went through the server? Can somebody answer what I'm thinking of in my mind that I work all but can't remember?

Petraeus and lover used al-Qaeda email tricks to keep affair secret

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Qaeda-email-tricks-to-keep-affair-secret.html

 

[bears10]

Petraeus and lover used al-Qaeda email tricks to keep affair secret

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Qaeda-email-tricks-to-keep-affair-secret.html

Tad Cummins and his underage victim also communicated thru email drafts (on the schools email server, what a dummy he is) to hide their “relationship”


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[Gooddeeds]

For Doug Poppa's latest column click HERE

Ive followed Poppa from his earliest reporting, in my opinion he is spot on. He has a unique profile and firsthand experience from which to speak. I respect that he did the right thing in his earlier career even though it cost him.

I introduced him here but I don’t recall if at that time his readership had been cleared through Tricia so I refrained from posting multiple articles. If one has the time to go back to his initial reports I think it would be a good read.

 

[ohreally]

I have been reading back to some of the first reports on MD. In October 5 news stories she was considered a person of interest. What I remember, but cannot find the links to was that her passport had some type of travel hold. I would like to know of the status of either of those have been changed. Law enforcement was also saying that while she was being cooperaive they believe she was holding back information.
I find it suspicious that she set her sight to private a half hour after the room was breached. When was her name first mentioned on police radio? When they saw she wasn't in the room or when they saw that she was registered for the room?
MD reminds me of the Pulse shooters wife. I don't know if I believe she was an active participant in the plan or if she just knew about it and didn't say anything.

I am quoting myself to correct. I had thought that MD had set her sight to private a half hour after the breach. In reading the request for warrants she set her page to private 7 minutes before the breach. Also, in the paperwork it says that Paddock was registered to both rooms. There is no mention of MD being a guest in the room. Her players card was found in the room. I just don't how one goes from I know nothing to hearing tv reports of a shooting in Vegas and no names mentioned to setting thier facebook to private 7 minutes before the room was even entered.

 

[kittythehare]

I am quoting myself to correct. I had thought that MD had set her sight to private a half hour after the breach. In reading the request for warrants she set her page to private 7 minutes before the breach. Also, in the paperwork it says that Paddock was registered to both rooms. There is no mention of MD being a guest in the room. Her players card was found in the room. I just don't how one goes from I know nothing to hearing tv reports of a shooting in Vegas and no names mentioned to setting thier facebook to private 7 minutes before the room was even entered.

at this stage of the game, I think we keep an open mind..
Sure MD appears to be the only 'witness' to who sP was.. his family are not credible.
That does not make her either guilty or a suspect but in light of the 'her fingerprints on the bullets' release from warrants which have been partially redacted and partially withheld, I think it's wise to hold the possibility that she is being set up as a fallguy/girl.

there's far too many questions and far too few answers.. See Tricia's first post with the vast list of unanswered questions..

Maybe we should consider attempting to answer those one at a time with what we know rather than rushing to chase what is possibly a propaganda witch hunt against a woman who was not in the country at the time of the mass killing?

We have info about the massive stock offloading.
We have discussed how LV appears to have it's own internal unspoken rules regarding law and order..
We have a mass of conflicting statements from LE.
We have an entire body of electronic information already destroyed by sP and unavailable to l.
We have a locked phone and no apparent published requests to manufacturer o help open it.!!!!!!

We have no information re possible motive.
We have what is possibly another red herring in the juvenile, badly written emails to his alleged self ..
We have nothing new to be going on with, this release- 'her fingerprints were on the bullets'.
I think there is good reason to be very wide in how we perceive the information dribble , information, which is not information..

There are several agendas here. Just need to identify them clearly..
Where's Cariis?

 

[Gooddeeds]

at this stage of the game, I think we keep an open mind..
Sure MD appears to be the only 'witness' to who sP was.. his family are not credible.
That does not make her either guilty or a suspect but in light of the 'her fingerprints on the bullets' release from warrants which have been partially redacted and partially withheld, I think it's wise to hold the possibility that she is being set up as a fallguy/girl.

there's far too many questions and far too few answers.. See Tricia's first post with the vast list of unanswered questions..

Maybe we should consider attempting to answer those one at a time with what we know rather than rushing to chase what is possibly a propaganda witch hunt against a woman who was not in the country at the time of the mass killing?

We have info about the massive stock offloading.
We have discussed how LV appears to have it's own internal unspoken rules regarding law and order..
We have a mass of conflicting statements from LE.
We have an entire body of electronic information already destroyed by sP and unavailable to l.
We have a locked phone and no apparent published requests to manufacturer o help open it.!!!!!!

We have no information re possible motive.
We have what is possibly another red herring in the juvenile, badly written emails to his alleged self ..
We have nothing new to be going on with, this release- 'her fingerprints were on the bullets'.
I think there is good reason to be very wide in how we perceive the information dribble , information, which is not information..

There are several agendas here. Just need to identify them clearly..
Where's Cariis?

Well stated! We don’t know why this new ‘bit’ of info is appearing at ‘this’ time. We have every reason to believe it’s possibly agenda related, as most of it has been to date...from the several various agendas.

 

[kdg411]

Is that actually how it went down? My understanding is that she immediately made herself available to the fBI on her return. My understanding is that a buccal swab was taken in the course of that first meeting.. Where is the blurt? Did she not just tell them having decided in advance to tell them?
I just need to be sure.

BBM

MD was located by Interpol. Unless I overlooked an MSM article stating otherwise, she didn`t return on her own volition.

“The FBI has coordinated with the Philippine office of the Interpol to look for her.”

Lombardo added: “It’s an ongoing investigation and when I say I don’t know, I may know. I assure you this investigation is not ended with the demise of Mr Paddock.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/03/las-vegas-shooting-girlfriend-marilou-danley-person-of-interest-sheriff

 

[kdg411]

More from Doug Poppa

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/sheriff-joe-lombardo-tells-crowd-important-us-forget-move/2018/01/15#sthash.uoO9uO6l.uxfs

JANUARY 15, 2018

We wouldn’t have to sit back and Monday morning quarterback as you said if you hadn’t disgraced your uniform and badge by lying to the public and contradicting yourself, which by the way reflected on your entire department.

I am sure the dead, injured and their families will appreciate what you said, “so it’s important for us to forget that and move on.” They will never forget what happened. As for being resilient as you said, the survivors and the families of those who were murdered will never recover emotionally from that.