Identified! NV - Henderson, 'Arroyo Grande', WhtFem UP46, "S" tattoo, Oct'80*GRAPHIC* - Tammy Corrine Terrell

[Alleykins]

Well, if it should happen to be her, it might explain the "s" tattoo (her name).

 

[kat913]

Good find Alleykins and yes that could absolutely explain 'S tattoo!

 

[Alleykins]

I did a 4-way comparison with the NCMEC reconstructions and pictures of Sharon Smith. It's pretty close, IMHO.

 

[Springrain]

Sharon would be 25/26 when Arroyo died. I think she was much younger.

 

[Alleykins]

I thought about that, too, Spring, but the upper range they have for AGJD is 25, she's right on the edge of that.
She also has two kids, and I'm not sure if it were determined that AGJD ever had kids or not, but I figured the possible match would be worth looking in to, anyway. I'm hoping LE will think it at least worth a phone call.

 

[JayFletcher6493]

Did this Jane Doe have an overbite?

 

[CarlK90245]

Did this Jane Doe have an overbite?

Doesn't look like she does.

 

[Roselvr]

I thought about that, too, Spring, but the upper range they have for AGJD is 25, she's right on the edge of that.
She also has two kids, and I'm not sure if it were determined that AGJD ever had kids or not, but I figured the possible match would be worth looking in to, anyway. I'm hoping LE will think it at least worth a phone call.

Her team is very motivated to have her ID'd and will get her ruled in/out if it's turned in

Did this Jane Doe have an overbite?

Her one NCMEC recon looks weird, so I can see where you'd wonder if she did or not.

 

[Jigoku Dayu]

Hoping this attaches properly. I did a side-by-side of both views of Rosie and Arroyo. IDK if I'm in the minority here, but I feel like the 1st NCMEC recon was more accurate than the current one (which is why I put it on the collage as well). I do like the current one though. I like that they included the side-view.

Rosie Schlicker has a celestial/ turned up nose. AGJD has a Greek nose, though almost Roman. As far as I can tell, at least.

 

[Springrain]

Rosie Schlicker has a celestial/ turned up nose. AGJD has a Greek nose, though almost Roman. As far as I can tell, at least.

Forgot to add here. The possible match was followed up on, and Rosie was ruled out as Arroyo.

 

[Alleykins]

Has there been any update on whether or not Patricia Taylor has been ruled out? It's been a few months.

 

[Springrain]

Hi all! I made a Facebook page for her! I would really appreciate it if you could join the page!

https://www.facebook.com/Who-Was-Arroyo-Grande-Jane-Doe-1088876787859814/?ref=br_rs

 

[Springrain]

So I have a small list of questions concerning Arroyo's case. I did this with Buckskin Girl a while back. I don't think many of the questions have answers that any of us would know, expect I'm sure a few have answers that I've overlooked. :embarrassed: I've got an awful memory lol, and it's been a while since I read the thread in its entirety, so please bear with me.

1. Was it determined whether she had given birth?
2. What position was her body in when she was discovered?
3. Did the blows to the head, or the stab wounds come first?
4. What was her blood type?
5. Was a toxicology report completed? If so, what were the results?
6. Did she have tan lines, or a sunburn?
7. Were her legs and underarms shaven?
8. Were there any possible sightings of her in the area?
9. How old was her tattoo estimated to have been?
10. What were her stomach contents?
11. What condition were her hands in (smooth, calloused, dirty fingernails, etc.)
12. Had she engaged in sexual activity shortly before she died?
13. Has she been exhumed?
14. Is there any chance of isotope analysis?
15. How old did her fingernail polish look to be? Was it freshly painted, faded?
16. What condition were her feet in?
17. Is there any chance of getting DNA left by her killer?
18. Had she performed oral sex on someone before dying?

I know #15 isn't all that important, but I do wonder if she seemed to be someone who really liked painting nails, doing makeup, that kind of thing.

 

[Springrain]

2. What position was her body in when she was discovered?

I discovered that Arroyo has got a Wikipedia article, which I was unaware of! Must've been a very new addition. Anyway, according to the Wikipedia article:

"It had been placed in a 'posed' position and was face-down."

13. Has she been exhumed?

Thanks, Wikipedia--2003 exhumation. Lol I couldn't find the time to reread the thread, sorry

I also was unaware that she was possibly stabbed with an ice pick. Poor angel. We've got to bring her back home. :rose:

 

[carbuff]

I discovered that Arroyo has got a Wikipedia article, which I was unaware of! Must've been a very new addition. Anyway, according to the Wikipedia article:





Thanks, Wikipedia--2003 exhumation. Lol I couldn't find the time to reread the thread, sorry

I also was unaware that she was possibly stabbed with an ice pick. Poor angel. We've got to bring her back home. :rose:

Huh. Sweetwater Jane Doe was also probably murdered with an ice pick; she was found in 1992. Was believed to be from or connected to Tuscon. I wonder if there's a connection.

 

[Springrain]

Arroyo Grande Jane Doe - all rule outs together, for our easier reference

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/258ufnv.html
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/46

Rule outs as per Namus
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

• Tammy Akers 1962 -Virginia
• Sandra Butler 1962 -Nevada
• Terry Collier 1948 -California
• Melinda Creech 1965 -Indiana
• Kimberly Doss 1962 -Florida
• Rachael Garden 1964 -New Hampshire
• Sandra Landrum 1957 -Georgia
• Laureen Rahn 1966 -New Hampshire
• Cheryl Scherer 1959 -Missouri
• Suzanne Schultz 1961 -Wisconsin

Rule outs through Nola & other members (in 2010) by LE - Rick Jones
Information shown (Name; State, Last Known Alive date, Status, Date of Rule Out)

• Rachael Gardner; NH;2/22/80; Neg. dentals;5/29/03
• Sandra Butler; NV ;6/26/78 ;Neg. dentals; 5/29/03
• Sandra Landrum; GA; 9/29/75; Neg prints; 12/3/03
• Cheryl Ann Scherer;MO ;4/17/79 ; Neg dentals; 12/19/03
• Suzanne Schultz; WI; 7/79; Neg dentals; 2/26/04
• Angela Mae Meeker; WA; 7/7/79; Neg dentals; 5/29/04
• Terry Lynch; CA; Found Alive; 4/18/05
• Melinda Creech; IN;9/4/79 ; Neg dentals; 1/11/08
• Margaret Kay Holst; NE; 8/4/77; Neg dentals; 2/24/10
• Tammy Akers;VA ;2/7/77 ; Neg dentals; 2/24/10
• Rebecca Dunn; NV; 4/79; Neg prints; 6/5/10
  
  Added later to the rule out list by LE
• Karen Lynn Zendrosky (dentals) -New Jersey - http://doenetwork.org/cases/1667dfnj.html
• Sherrlynn Leigh Mitchell - Australia (by DNA) - http://www.missingpersons.gov.au/mi...s/profiles/m/i/mitchell sherrlynn leigh - vic
• Terry Collier - California - (by fingerprint comparison,6/8/11) http://www.missingincalifornia.com/t...llier1979.html
• Diane Gilchrist - Washington - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20347 (by DNA in 2013)
• Janet Kramer - Minnesota- https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21165/150 (by DNA in 2014)
• Katherine O'Neil Anderson - Maryland - http://www.nampn.org/cases/anderson_katherine.html (by dentals in 2014)

Missing Persons that are currently being checked (in 2010) as matches for Arroyo Grande Jane Doe:
Information shown by Name, Status and Date of Submission.

• Laureen Rahn - Checking CODIS -5/03
• Mary Trlica (AKA: Mary Rachell Arnold) Checking CODIS - 11/03
• Alana/Leticia Carter: Checking CODIS - 12/03
• Rebecca Rodriquez: Checking CODIS - 11/04
• Tracy King: Checking CODIS - 11/04
• Cindy Lou Werling: Checking CODIS - 11/04
• Ann Ellinwood: Checking CODIS - 11/04
• Diane Dye: Ck DNA CA DOJ - 3/06
• Teresa Alfonso: Checking DNA UNT (University North TX) - 7/08
• Sherrlynn Leigh Mitchell: Cheking with AU for DNA, etc. - 5/10
• Wilma Rae Vermaas: Checking CODIS - 6/10
• Adrianne Gilliam: Checking CODIS - 6/10
• Lucinda Schaefer: Checking CODIS - 6/10
• Brenda Crowley: Checking CODIS - 6/10
• Kristy Lynn Booth: Checking CODIS - 6/10
• Simone Ridinger: Checking CODIS - 6/10

Rule outs on websleuth by members discussions:
Laureen Rahn 1966 -New Hampshire - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/204dfnh.html
Rachael Garden 1964 -New Hampshire (by dentals) - http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/665523
Suzanne Marie Schultz - Wisconsin - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1182dfwi.html
Margaret Kay Holst - Nebraska - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2589dfne.html
Sandra Kaye Butler - Nevada - http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/765685/1
Melinda Karen Creech - Indiana - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/creech_melinda.html
Rhonda Jane Stait - Australia - http://doenetwork.org/cases/2151dfnsw.html
Julie Hill - Minnesota - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hill_julie.html
Theresa Louise Rains - California - (found out by starburst member that Theresa was located in 1999)
Robyn Elizabeth Hickie - Australia - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/63dfnsw.html
Diane Genice Dye - California - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/129dfca.html (in CODIS, haven't generated automatic hit against AGJD; last seen in 1981)
Rachel Hanna Ziselman - California - (no strong resemblance) http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/73dfca.html
Barbara Bruno - New York - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11582/2 (nose & mouth difference)
Judy Worrell - California - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6910/27/ (last seen in 1981)
Cynthia Joan Gastelle - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...e_cynthia.html (identified by websleuths as being Haymarket Jane Doe found on February 12, 1982)
Janice Younger - strong resemblance but have given birth previously, missing since July 1981- after UID found
Beverly Lynn England - Colorado - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/england_beverly.html (given birth previously)
Helen Claire Frost - British Columbia - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/254dfbc.html (gave birth previously)
Mary Anne Wesolowski - New York - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2876/13 (crooked teeth)
Kerry Ann Graham - California - http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/det...=5651331600149 (links from DOJ for any UIDs are not working/opening in Europe for some reason) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/graham_kerry.html
- too small resemblance
Mary Weekly - Missouri - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/24532/1/ (small resemblance)
Gail Marie Dahl - California - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dahl_gail.html (way too tall)
Jackie Kay Boyer - California - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/boyer_jackie.html (too young)

Pending suggestions on websleuth so far:
Debra Lynn Kidwell -California - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/870dfca.html
Toni Maree Cavanagh - Australia - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/654dfnsw.html
Nadine O'Dell -Michigan - https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2489/2/
Kristy Lynne Booth - Texas - https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/2928/2/
Tina Fay Kemp - Delaware - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kemp_tina.html
Trenny Lynn Gibson - Tennessee - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/425dftn.html
Debra Pscholka - California - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pscholka_debra.html
Janice Pockett - Connecticut - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2555/202/
Patricia Zentner - Michigan - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9909/1/
Sherry Jean Pickle - California - http://doenetwork.org/cases/1099dfca.html
Patricia Gomez - California - http://doenetwork.org/cases/981dfca.html
Ann Marie Ellinwood - Oregon - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2522dfor.html
Cindy May Brown - Minnesota - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20955/0/
Star Joy Dodson -Pennsylvania - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/27610/15/ (pic added now to Namus)
Brenda Cecelia Crowley - New York - http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/872dfny.html


PS: Hopefully all is spelled and linked correctly. Btw, where is Nola? No post from her/him for some time. Hope all is ok.

Awesome! Any more updates? I'm rereading the thread. Bumping this forward for future reference.

 

[Springrain]

So I have a small list of questions concerning Arroyo's case. I did this with Buckskin Girl a while back. I don't think many of the questions have answers that any of us would know, expect I'm sure a few have answers that I've overlooked. :embarrassed: I've got an awful memory lol, and it's been a while since I read the thread in its entirety, so please bear with me.

1. Was it determined whether she had given birth?
2. What position was her body in when she was discovered?
3. Did the blows to the head, or the stab wounds come first?
4. What was her blood type?
5. Was a toxicology report completed? If so, what were the results?
6. Did she have tan lines, or a sunburn?
7. Were her legs and underarms shaven?
8. Were there any possible sightings of her in the area?
9. How old was her tattoo estimated to have been?
10. What were her stomach contents?
11. What condition were her hands in (smooth, calloused, dirty fingernails, etc.)
12. Had she engaged in sexual activity shortly before she died?
13. Has she been exhumed?
14. Is there any chance of isotope analysis?
15. How old did her fingernail polish look to be? Was it freshly painted, faded?
16. What condition were her feet in?
17. Is there any chance of getting DNA left by her killer?
18. Had she performed oral sex on someone before dying?

I know #15 isn't all that important, but I do wonder if she seemed to be someone who really liked painting nails, doing makeup, that kind of thing.

Revised question list.

1. Was it determined whether she had given birth?
2. Did the blows to the head, or the stab wounds come first?
3. What was her blood type?
4. Was a toxicology report completed? If so, what were the results?
5. Did she have tan lines, or a sunburn?
6. Were her legs and underarms shaven?
7. How old was her tattoo estimated to have been?
8. What were her stomach contents?
9. What condition were her hands in (smooth, calloused, dirty fingernails, etc.)
10. Had she engaged in sexual activity shortly before she died? Rape didn't occur, but consensual activity?
11. Is there any chance of isotope analysis?
12. How old did her fingernail polish look to be? Was it freshly painted, faded?
13. What condition were her feet in?
14. Is there any chance of getting DNA left by her killer?
15. Had she performed oral sex on someone before dying?

 

[Alleykins]

As always, those are some great questions, Springrain.

 

[Springrain]

As always, those are some great questions, Springrain.

Thank you Alleykins! I'm sure there's plenty more questions that I just can't think of. If anyone has some questions, I'd like to hear them and add them to the question list. I don't know if any of them could be answered by LE, but perhaps the questions (and possible answers) could make interesting discussion topics.

Since Sahara Sue got pollen testing done, and her case is managed by the same people as Arroyo's, I'm wondering if there's any chance Arroyo could get pollen testing done. Or, better yet, isotopes. Sahara Sue's pollen was found on her clothes, and Arroyo was found nude. I was wondering if pollen could be collected from Arroyo's hair, and then used for testing? I'd prefer isotope testing, of course, but I'd be so happy if both could be done.

Link to Arroyo's Find A Grave page HERE. Soon, it will be the 36th anniversary of our girl's death. It makes me so sad to think that she doesn't have any family or friends who know to mourn her. RIP angel, we are NEVER giving up! :rose:

 

[Alleykins]

I was thinking about pollen testing for AGJD, but not really sure where they would get it except her hair. I hope Carbuff will weigh in on this. I would like to see isotope testing done for this case, too.
I would like to add to the list of questions: were there any witnesses who might have thought they saw her prior to her death, like there were for WCJD and Sahara Sue. I ask because I didn't know they had actually interviewed anyone who claimed to have seen BG until recently.