Found Deceased NV - Naomi Irion 18, kidnapped from pkg lot, car fnd, Fernley, 12 Mar 2022 *Arrest* #3

[SteveP]

If this is the case, that she was found near the prison, then we have been going too far on the map along Coal Canyon Road

I am not one of the excellent mapmakers here, but the prison is in Pershing County, not Churchill, so she would have to have been some miles farther down the road. There have been all kinds of conflicting reports as to where her remains were located, but they seem to be in agreement that it was somewhere in Churchill Co, along Coal Canyon Rd. JMO

 

[soap mama]

I am not one of the excellent mapmakers here, but the prison is in Pershing County, not Churchill, so she would have to have been some miles farther down the road. There have been all kinds of conflicting reports as to where her remains were located, but they seem to be in agreement that it was somewhere in Churchill Co, along Coal Canyon Rd. JMO

Gotcha, thanks!

 

[soap mama]

We know CV is frustrated that LE didn't follow protocol.

But when they said her car was found with evidence of a crime, my mind went to the Aniah Blanchard case, bc that was said i. Reference to her car. And she had been shot in her car.

so, sadly, i think Naomi was gone before CV even realized. TD is a monster and probably wasted no time. I'm sure he has other victims over the years .

 

[DutchTreat]

IMO, he wanted to be able to look out his window and see her.

That is creepy as hell.

 

[indicolite22]

We know CV is frustrated that LE didn't follow protocol.

But when they said her car was found with evidence of a crime, my mind went to the Aniah Blanchard case, bc that was said i. Reference to her car. And she had been shot in her car.

so, sadly, i think Naomi was gone before CV even realized. TD is a monster and probably wasted no time. I'm sure he has other victims over the years .

I agree that in this case LE's delayed response probably didn't make a difference to the outcome.

Evidence found in her car did not offer proof that she was no longer alive, or the family would have been told that IMO.

 

[MachinaCollecta]

Does anyone know, from a legal perspective, why they went ahead with the bail hearing when a body was found the day before that was most likely Naomi? Would that not have delayed it a few days?

My theory on this is that LE didn’t (and may still not) have enough evidence to link TD to Naomi’s murder, which is why his charge was for kidnapping. One would hope that they’ve now found more evidence to link him to it, lest there be someone else involved. JSS JMHO

 

[otto]

We know CV is frustrated that LE didn't follow protocol.

But when they said her car was found with evidence of a crime, my mind went to the Aniah Blanchard case, bc that was said i. Reference to her car. And she had been shot in her car.

so, sadly, i think Naomi was gone before CV even realized. TD is a monster and probably wasted no time. I'm sure he has other victims over the years .

The delay in realizing that Naomi did not go home on Saturday night, and the delay by police in understanding that this was a serious situation, probably made no difference for Naomi. Abduction victims are usually deceased in 1-3 hours.

Could police have apprehended the suspect sooner if police had looked for and discovered Naomi's car within an hour of the first report that she was missing - at 9:35 PM on Sunday? Perhaps, but I doubt it would have changed the outcome.

What might have made a difference is that her employer had called her next of kin (brother) to find out why she wasn't at work. That could have triggered a missing person report at 8:30 AM on Saturday, while she was still alive. He might have discovered the Walmart footage before her car was abandoned nearby. Police might have patrolled the highway to Lovelock looking for her car.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Does anyone know, from a legal perspective, why they went ahead with the bail hearing when a body was found the day before that was most likely Naomi? Would that not have delayed it a few days?

For the same reason that he hasn't been charged with her Murder yet. They have to have the evidence show that he was the killer, and that he put her body there.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

I feel it was totally planned. But I'm not convinced he did it alone. And I'm not convinced she died that day. Him not being charged for murder could that mean the autopsy showed she died while he was in custody?

Fernley - Google Maps

When you drive on I 80 Past Lovelock correction center and turn right onto Coal Canyon Rd (396), you will drive past the entrance of Lovelock correction center (Prison Road).
Surely there must be cameras at the entrance to Prison Rd?
And TD must know that Lovelock correction center is there?
Even if he left her 60 miles further down Coal Canyon Road, that's a huge risk driving past Prison Road.
Especially if he did that in her car. Her car stands out I guess? Never mind risking that car breaking down near that facility or in the middle of nowhere. He would have to call someone if it did. And they could pinpoint him to her car.

If she died while he was committing another crime, he would still be charged for murder.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

I keep checking back in hopes there is news TD has been arrested for murder. To me, there has to be more CCTV. I would think Sherwin Williams would have more than one camera and one that would have caught NI’s car being dropped off and by who. I tried looking a the building from street view but cannot even find the camera that caught the truck driving by. I also think Walmart has more cameras and would show the way NI’s car turned out of the parking lot. Could LE be waiting for the autopsy report before arresting? Do they know he cannot make bail so are not rushed?
MOO!

 

[SteveP]

The delay in realizing that Naomi did not go home on Saturday night, and the delay by police in understanding that this was a serious situation, probably made no difference for Naomi. Abduction victims are usually deceased in 1-3 hours.

Could police have apprehended the suspect sooner if police had looked for and discovered Naomi's car within an hour of the first report that she was missing - at 9:35 PM on Sunday? Perhaps, but I doubt it would have changed the outcome.

What might have made a difference is that her employer had called her next of kin (brother) to find out why she wasn't at work. That could have triggered a missing person report at 8:30 AM on Saturday, while she was still alive. He might have discovered the Walmart footage before her car was abandoned nearby. Police might have patrolled the highway to Lovelock looking for her car.

BBM There may be a very minute chance that had her employer called her next of kin to find out why she was not at work, that it may have made a difference in the outcome, but I really do not think so. Her brother thought that his fears were not being taken seriously some 36 hours after she missed her shift at work. LE surely would not have taken a call 3 hours after she was supposed to be at work more seriously, with no evidence of anything other than a call from her employer asking for her.

Also, it just isn't realistic to expect that a company that has some 7000 employees could or would take the time to call the emergency contact of every employee that misses a shift to find out why. Aside from everything else, that is not the purpose of getting the name of an emergency contact from every employee. Missing a shift is not an emergency. Employees have procedures for calling out, to be sure, and her failure to show up or call was surely noted, and it is possible that her direct supervisor attempted to contact her, but a company with that many employees would probably have to pay someone a full-time wage just to call and check on every employee that has an unexcused absence. JMO

 

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GH did a great job enhancing that video.
That must be TD. I mean what are the odds.

I still don't get what he's trying to say. But he looked very worked up.
LE should definitely find out what vehicle he's driving.
He could have been watching Naomi from that vehicle as well.
And so could someone else have been if TD was not operating alone.
I hope they study every vehicle that was in the parking lot when Naomi was there and see if they can link it to TD or an accomplice.
So not only the day she was abducted but weeks before as well.

 

[minneolo]

I hope that LE fully investigates Troy Driver’s past in the event that he has victimized others - clearly the murder that he was associated with in his teen years suggests this guy’s been dangerous for a long time.

That said, I observe a lot of speculation re: “well if he’s 41 now he certainly was victimizing others for years / this may not be his only murder.” Totally reasonable speculation, in my opinion. It’s also possible he hasn’t.

I have been surprised to see how the use of genetic genealogy solving cold cases is showing lots of “one and done” killers - individuals who commit sexually motivated killings but seem to do so only once.

Example: there’s a new podcast exploring these kinds of crimes: 'Unraveled: Once a Killer' Explores the Importance of DNA Genealogy in Solving Cold Cases (EXCLUSIVE)

 

[DutchTreat]

If she died while he was committing another crime, he would still be charged for murder.

Ok but what if they know how she died (murdered) but also know someone else must have killed her (DNA, or she was buried while he was in custody)?
What I'm trying to say what if there's more people involved and he abducted her but did not kill her.

 

[OldCop]

For @otto and others who have been working on the maps. If you take Coal Canyon Rd off I80 and follow it south, right before the Humbolt Intermediate Field it branches off down into Churchill County and eventually becomes Estill Ranch Rd. I believe NI was buried off this road somewhere between the ranch and the intersection. It fits the setting as described as being in Churchill County and in the “foothills”
If TD knew the area, he would not want to go as far as the ranch. The side road I have marked in the second map would give him some more cover to dispose of the body.
Because this area is so remote, LE had to have been given an almost exact location to have been able to find this body. It was reported she was found at 9:00 pm. This indicates that LE was tipped off by someone such as:
-TD
-An accomplice
-The Rancher? If TD went out at night to bury the body, did the rancher see his headlights head up that road? If you live out in the middle of nowhere you notice headlights at night and you know exactly what road they are on.
Or
a ping
Or
Vehicle telematics
MOO

 

[DutchTreat]

I hope that LE fully investigates Troy Driver’s past in the event that he has victimized others - clearly the murder that he was associated with in his teen years suggests this guy’s been dangerous for a long time.

That said, I observe a lot of speculation re: “well if he’s 41 now he certainly was victimizing others for years / this may not be his only murder.” Totally reasonable speculation, in my opinion. It’s also possible he hasn’t.

I have been surprised to see how the use of genetic genealogy solving cold cases is showing lots of “one and done” killers - individuals who commit sexually motivated killings but seem to do so only once.

Example: there’s a new podcast exploring these kinds of crimes: 'Unraveled: Once a Killer' Explores the Importance of DNA Genealogy in Solving Cold Cases (EXCLUSIVE)

They should start with his female co workers. Not just this job, but his previous jobs as well.
And they should do it in a way they can speak anonymously or protected.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Ok but what if they know how she died (murdered) but also know someone else must have killed her (DNA, or she was buried while he was in custody)?
What I'm trying to say what if there's more people involved and he abducted her but did not kill her.

I'm pretty sure he'd still be charged. If you're involved in a kidnapping in which the person dies, even if you didn't kill her, you'd still be charged. MOO though as this is not my area of expertise. I just remember hearing this in the MSM about a decade or so ago with other cases. Can any of our legal experts confirm?

 

[OldCop]

I keep checking back in hopes there is news TD has been arrested for murder. To me, there has to be more CCTV. I would think Sherwin Williams would have more than one camera and one that would have caught NI’s car being dropped off and by who. I tried looking a the building from street view but cannot even find the camera that caught the truck driving by. I also think Walmart has more cameras and would show the way NI’s car turned out of the parking lot. Could LE be waiting for the autopsy report before arresting? Do they know he cannot make bail so are not rushed?
MOO!

They are very likely awaiting autopsy results. Now that they know NI has been murdered, there is not the urgency to make a swift charge. They want to get this right. They want a solid case. They want to cover all angles so that the defense doesn’t come up with a SODDI theory.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

GH did a great job enhancing that video.
That must be TD. I mean what are the odds.

I still don't get what he's trying to say. But he looked very worked up.
LE should definitely find out what vehicle he's driving.
He could have been watching Naomi from that vehicle as well.
And so could someone else have been if TD was not operating alone.
I hope they study every vehicle that was in the parking lot when Naomi was there and see if they can link it to TD or an accomplice.
So not only the day she was abducted but weeks before as well.

He made sure to drive away so that she could not video his license plate. Otherwise why didn’t he just drive straight rather than back up and go beside her. I wonder if she tried to video tape him as he went by the side of her car?
MOO!