Found Deceased NV - Naomi Irion 18, kidnapped from pkg lot, car fnd, Fernley, 12 Mar 2022 *Arrest* #3

[Lillymac]

Nevada is a death penalty state!! Didn't know this until I looked up open murder.

 

[Satchie]

I don’t know whether it’s TD or not, but I agree that it looks as if he’s gesturing for her to roll the window down. I think he can tell she’s filming and he doesn’t want his license plate recorded. We don’t know a lot about TD aside from his past, but if this is him I highly doubt he’s gesturing for a woman to leave her car in the middle of the road and get into his in broad daylight. JMHO

And yet, doesn't roll his own window down...

But I agree, LE can't track people down and interrogate them for gesturing at other people while sitting in their vehicle. They can't put a 24 hour suveillance on them. Imagine the number of cases they'd have to pursue, the police state the world would become.

I think this woman was upset because she realized she was potentially vulnerable while out walking her dogs alone. That a man might see that and be interested in her. I think it's good that it brought up awareness for her that hiking off alone in that location might not be safe.

I kind of wish Naomi had a similar scare, so that she'd kept her door locked while in her car.

JMO

 

[SteveP]

Nevada is a death penalty state!! Didn't know this until I looked up open murder.

Well, technically it is, although the last execution took place in April, 2006. And, as much as I do not believe it is likely, it is possible that TD agreed to tell where Naomi was buried in exchange for a guarantee from the state that they would not pursue the death penalty at trial. I am convinced that LE had a very specific clue where to find her, else I do not believe they would have at this point. I'm just not sure where that clue came from. JMO

 

[jdglove]

I agree with almost every point you’ve made here, but I do have to say that there’s nothing in this video that’s criminal in nature. I absolutely believe the woman who posted it, who said that this man was following her around and that it should be taken seriously, but just looking at this video and this alone, there’s nothing here that would make LE do anything. I understand why they’d have looked at it and said that that there’s nothing of a criminal nature, other than what looks to be an irate man in his car gesturing at the woman filming.

I believe there was a clear attempt to intimidate her, which is assault. Following her could be stalking. And intentionally blocking her getting away can be kidnapping. But even if those actions did not rise to the level of chargeable crimes, they certainly justify having an officer look into it. That is what would happen where I live. Any woman being treated that way needs to feel comfortable calling the police and knowing they will take it seriously.

 

[Trublue21]

I don’t know whether it’s TD or not, but I agree that it looks as if he’s gesturing for her to roll the window down. I think he can tell she’s filming and he doesn’t want his license plate recorded. We don’t know a lot about TD aside from his past, but if this is him I highly doubt he’s gesturing for a woman to leave her car in the middle of the road and get into his in broad daylight. JMHO

I Know right? Did I miss something? How do we know what transpired? .It seems like the guys annoyed because he’s being recorded. I’d probably be annoyed too. Who’s the person recording? Why are they waiting for the car to pull up? If I thought I was being followed, I wouldn’t pull over, then wait, even in broad daylight, for some “creep”, to park next to me, so I could film him. No. I’d get a license plate number, call 911 and drive as fast as I could to a police station, hospital or somewhere with a lot of people. Did they provide this video to LE ? Or, do they know TD personally and are now trying to make $$ by selling a video to the media?

 

[Knox]

I am just wondering here and hope a legal @Kristin Esq. comes in to verify. Could they charge him with kidnapping in one county - this would put him behind bars and hold him... then charge him with murder in another county?? That is only IF he actually murdered her in Pershing County. The kidnapping charge would hold him while they get the autopsy back and work on building evidence in the murder.

He's been charged with "open murder" correct? Clark County, NV.
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What do we think the robbery & burglary charges relate too?

 

[MachinaCollecta]

I believe there was a clear attempt to intimidate her, which is assault. Following her could be stalking. And intentionally blocking her getting away can be kidnapping. But even if those actions did not rise to the level of chargeable crimes, they certainly justify having an officer look into it. That is what would happen where I live. Any woman being treated that way needs to feel comfortable calling the police and knowing they will take it seriously.

I don’t disagree that he looks threatening, nor that what the lady who posted the video was saying about his actions isn’t valid. I’m just saying that, looking at this video alone and trying to speculate on what LE might think of it, I don’t see anything here that would indicate assault or kidnapping. If he’d gotten out and come over, started banging on her car window etc then I think it would come across very differently.

 

[jdglove]

I don’t disagree that he looks threatening, nor that what the lady who posted the video was saying about his actions isn’t valid. I’m just saying that, looking at this video alone and trying to speculate on what LE might think of it, I don’t see anything here that would indicate assault or kidnapping. If he’d gotten out and come over, started banging on her car window etc then I think it would come across very differently.

I don't disagree with you. It's just that he followed her and apparently cornered her in a parking lot. If she's concerned enough to call 911, they should come out, talk to the other driver, see if he's got any warrants out for him, see if his car is stolen, see if he's armed etc. Officers are trained to determine whether someone is potentially dangerous. This might be getting too far off topic.

 

[MachinaCollecta]

I don't disagree with you. It's just that he followed her and apparently cornered her in a parking lot. If she's concerned enough to call 911, they should come out, talk to the other driver, see if he's got any warrants out for him, see if his car is stolen, see if he's armed etc. Officers are trained to determine whether someone is potentially dangerous. This might be getting too far off topic.

I agree overall and, to link it to Naomi again, I do wonder if this really is TD and I really hope they are now taking it seriously.

 

[MAHBOOBOO]

I Know right? Did I miss something? How do we know what transpired? .It seems like the guys annoyed because he’s being recorded. I’d probably be annoyed too. Who’s the person recording? Why are they waiting for the car to pull up? If I thought I was being followed, I wouldn’t pull over, then wait, even in broad daylight, for some “creep”, to park next to me, so I could film him. No. I’d get a license plate number, call 911 and drive as fast as I could to a police station, hospital or somewhere with a lot of people. Did they provide this video to LE ? Or, do they know TD personally and are now trying to make $$ by selling a video to the media?

The woman that filmed it posted her story and the vid in one of the NI fb groups. She did call 911 but the dispatcher wasn't too concerned about it. Yes she tried to forward the video to LE after TD was arrested and as of 11 hours ago, LE still wasn't interested in the information. The original post is still available for reading.

I do agree with most others here that what the driver did wasn't illegal. But IF that's him, and IF he's used that car in other crimes, then it bears looking into by LE, and I'm sure they know that.

Would this be a strange tactic on TD's part? To try and harass/possibly kidnap a woman in the middle of the day a month before he abducted NI... yes. Maybe he was drunk and was feeling pretty confident?

 

[Lillymac]

Well, technically it is, although the last execution took place in April, 2006. And, as much as I do not believe it is likely, it is possible that TD agreed to tell where Naomi was buried in exchange for a guarantee from the state that they would not pursue the death penalty at trial. I am convinced that LE had a very specific clue where to find her, else I do not believe they would have at this point. I'm just not sure where that clue came from. JMO

It just seems that every case I've followed lately, the state doesn't have the death penalty.
As far as info leading them to locating Naomi, I think the entire investigation took a turn 2 or 3 days prior to findng her. Searches canceled then rescheduled with a new location, hearing changed from Monday to Wednesday. And Tammy set up a new FB for posting because family didn't want info or theories coming to them...only condolences. Family cancelled interviews and only met with Entin. There was just a new vibe coming from all of them. I don't know, but maybe new info from phone, gps, or interviews (the unknown car in Walmart parking lot) that car and passenger had just come forward.
I reread the press release from April 1. It said that officers from Churchill County, one officer from Lyons County and officers from Washoe County located and recovered a body. I think a tip could have come from anywhere, and I'm not convinced it came as a bartering tool from TD. LE could have gotten info from everything they had been waiting on and it was too much for TD to deny so he did just give it up. Is that considered an admission of guilt? And if so will he plead guilty? Do you believe there will even be a jury trial? So many things to consider and I'm rambling. Sorry, it's late.

 

[Kaykedi]

The woman that filmed it posted her story and the vid in one of the NI fb groups. She did call 911 but the dispatcher wasn't too concerned about it. Yes she tried to forward the video to LE after TD was arrested and as of 11 hours ago, LE still wasn't interested in the information. The original post is still available for reading.

I do agree with most others here that what the driver did wasn't illegal. But IF that's him, and IF he's used that car in other crimes, then it bears looking into by LE, and I'm sure they know that.

Would this be a strange tactic on TD's part? To try and harass/possibly kidnap a woman in the middle of the day a month before he abducted NI... yes. Maybe he was drunk and was feeling pretty confident?

Or, had he taken 'something' and was feeling overconfident as a result?
Was this alleged pursuit of the lady in question possibly a little warm up for his alleged anticipated abduction of Naomi?
Both pure speculation on my part, MOO

 

[Belyama]

Presume this news will change the arraignment date? Not sure. Glad they had enough evidence to upgrade charges.

 

[Von Pinn]

The woman that filmed it posted her story and the vid in one of the NI fb groups. She did call 911 but the dispatcher wasn't too concerned about it. Yes she tried to forward the video to LE after TD was arrested and as of 11 hours ago, LE still wasn't interested in the information. The original post is still available for reading.

I do agree with most others here that what the driver did wasn't illegal. But IF that's him, and IF he's used that car in other crimes, then it bears looking into by LE, and I'm sure they know that.

Would this be a strange tactic on TD's part? To try and harass/possibly kidnap a woman in the middle of the day a month before he abducted NI... yes. Maybe he was drunk and was feeling pretty confident?

Posted earlier in this thread was more of his past criminal record. This was at the bottom, "The article goes on to state Driver admitted to being a heavy drinker, starting at age 16, and a "heavy" daily user of marijuana since age 15. Needing to "take a hit" every 5 mins."

Makes me wonder if he had hit the bottle and taking some hits of pot. IF that is him harassing that woman in the car. His brain could be fried.

 

[MachinaCollecta]

Posted earlier in this thread was more of his past criminal record. This was at the bottom, "The article goes on to state Driver admitted to being a heavy drinker, starting at age 16, and a "heavy" daily user of marijuana since age 15. Needing to "take a hit" every 5 mins."

Makes me wonder if he had hit the bottle and taking some hits of pot. IF that is him harassing that woman in the car. His brain could be fried.

I hope it’s not fried because I’ve a feeling his defence team could use that to argue that he’s not mentally together, that he’s had to self medicate with pot over the years. JMO.

 

[DeDee]

I [CV] called at 9:30 p.m. on that Sunday, I believe it was the 13th, I basically left a message with the deputy and dispatch said that the deputy would come by my house and take a report. That did not occur. So, that deputy called me at around 11:23 p.m. and then he said something to the effect of 'lets see what happens tomorrow'.

CV said it was only until Tuesday morning that a detective actually took up the case.

CV confirmed that the family has filed a complaint with the LCSO over the deputy's handling of the initial call and he is not aware of where the internal investigation is at currently.

The family said there is already CCW (concealed carry) classes being named after Naomi to teach people how to protect themselves.

Naomi Irion's family launches complaint on Lyon County officials handling of murder case

 

[mickey2942]

I hope it’s not fried because I’ve a feeling his defence team could use that to argue that he’s not mentally together, that he’s had to self medicate with pot over the years. JMO.

That type of "incompetence" defense drives me crazy. A person is "competent" enough to drive a car, maintain employment, perform all activities of daily living, and also carry out a heinous crime. Then, his defense time wants a competency exam?

My hope for Naomi's family is that this guy takes a quick deal, and goes away for a long time.

But he really has nothing to lose by stringing this out for as long as possible.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

She saw a man in a car, perhaps a man who thought he knew her. He left. She's fine. The man wasn't driving a truck - Troy drives a personal or work truck. The man didn't interfere with her. What would be her complaint - that a man in a car in a public parking lot spooked her?

I don't understand what this has to do with Naomi's abduction and murder.

He was following her for awhile and she pulled into the parking lot and filmed him. Then he left. She had reason to be spooked....especially if it was TD.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

Is the man in her video missing part of his ear?

We can't see. She was by herself and the guy was following her. He bears a striking resemblence to someone now charged with kidnapping and murder.

 

[mooseandcoffee]

I Know right? Did I miss something? How do we know what transpired? .It seems like the guys annoyed because he’s being recorded. I’d probably be annoyed too. Who’s the person recording? Why are they waiting for the car to pull up? If I thought I was being followed, I wouldn’t pull over, then wait, even in broad daylight, for some “creep”, to park next to me, so I could film him. No. I’d get a license plate number, call 911 and drive as fast as I could to a police station, hospital or somewhere with a lot of people. Did they provide this video to LE ? Or, do they know TD personally and are now trying to make $$ by selling a video to the media?

So much for trusting people's instincts.

She did call LE. He was following her for awhile and she was weirded out.