GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #1

[Ian]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-arrested-shooting-initially-called-road-rage

The Las Vegas Journal is maybe closest to the truth so far in this story, and on pointing out the way the Meyers have convoluted the story since the beginning.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

his mom looks very young......MOO

Mom also drives a silver/gray Corvette. Hmmm.


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[newone]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-arrested-shooting-initially-called-road-rage

The Las Vegas Journal is maybe closest to the truth so far in this story, and on pointing out the way the Meyers have convoluted the story since the beginning.

Concise and fairly well balanced writing in this article from your link.

The personal tragedy that the alleged shooter experienced at the age of 14 is going to be key to understanding him.
The anger and depression for a young man would be profound.
"Neighbors said that there was a noticeable change in Nowsch’s personality after his father committed suicide. He got into drugs, they said, and dropped out of high school.

Erich Nowsch Sr., 39, killed himself Feb. 9, 2010, according to the Clark County coroner’s office. His cause of death was listed as carbon monoxide poisoning. His body was found on an unnamed road in the mountains between the Las Vegas Valley and Lake Mead."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-arrested-shooting-initially-called-road-rage





wow.....just a minute!! look at the date of his father's passing.......

generally speaking such an anniversary date is really hard to ''not notice'' it's kind of like fog that seeps under the door.....this kid will never forget this date.....the road rage if it did occur has nothing at all to do with Mrs. & her daughter....JMHO

if anything he was probably really down in the dumps the week of the birthday party....KWIM?

maybe he didn't feel particularly ''sociable'' and felt that certain folks were bugging the *&^ out of him.....JMHO

 

[time]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-arrested-shooting-initially-called-road-rage

The Las Vegas Journal is maybe closest to the truth so far in this story, and on pointing out the way the Meyers have convoluted the story since the beginning.

Matthew Meyers, 20, said the first round of gunshots occurred away from his family’s house.

I must have missed this before, was this another son in the house? Does this sync with any of the other stories? :crazy:

 

[newone]

I was curious too about the whereabouts of the other two boys of M family.

 

[jjenny]

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-arrested-shooting-initially-called-road-rage

The Las Vegas Journal is maybe closest to the truth so far in this story, and on pointing out the way the Meyers have convoluted the story since the beginning.

"So-called road rage" sounds about right. I don't think we are anywhere near the truth. Father tries to make it sound that they didn't reveal suspect's name to keep the integrity of the investigation. But police are very clear the name wasn't revealed to them either. So how does that help the investigation? I don't understand why they presumably didn't tell the police they knew the suspect?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

From wf's link above:

"On Thursday afternoon, police arrested 19-year-old Erich Milton Nowsch Jr. as helicopters buzzed overhead and SWAT teams swarmed a private drive about a dozen miles from the Las Vegas Strip. Police said the suspect had been under surveillance since the road-rage incident. And, as the action unfolded nearby, Richard Meyers lost it."

Okay....I'm even more confused now....

This does not surprise me in the least. In fact it makes sense. The composite sketch looks a lot like him. LE would know if the murderer came to the Myers home there was a very good chance he lived in the surrounding neighborhood. Wasn't his mother driving a silver sedan? I think they watched him to see if he took the car somewhere to be detailed or left to possibly discard his weapon. They may have also wanted to see which particular friends came in and out of his home when his mom wasn't there looking for a possible co-conspirator who was in the vehicle with him.

And in the meantime they were gathering evidence from the crime scene and from Tammy's autopsy. He showed a .22 or .25 semi automatic revolver on one of his social media sites. I imagine this gun was used to commit the murder. And a 9mm (Brandon's weapon) bullet and casing is different from a .22 or .25. So I think LE has known that the bullet used to murder Tammy came from his gun. Even if he ditched the weapon then at trial they can show his media page with him in possession of the same type of weapon used if she was killed with the same type weapon.

While I know and understand that the majority believes the Myers family is somehow involved, I do not, and I see no evidence that LE thinks so either. While Bob's behaviors have been odd many times he wasn't even there when it happened. Brandon's statements have been consistent.

It is sad that Brandon is receiving death threats and imo he doesn't deserve it either. Imo, he was only trying to protect his mom when they were being fired upon.

As for the self defense claim by the suspect I don't think he has a legal leg to stand on.

Once he took it upon himself to become the aggressor and be the pursuer he lost all claims to self defense. Tammy and Brandon had returned to their own home and property and the murderer had every right to do the same ....go home and go to bed. Instead he pursued them even after they returned home and shot Tammy in the head in her own driveway. That is murder plain and simple and attempted murder of Brandon.

I don't have a bit of sympathy for this hothead. I read this morning in article he can get the death penalty.

 

[jjenny]

He is nowhere near the height or weight of the presumed person in the sketch. And why the sketch if they knew the guy? Wouldn't it be simpler to give police a name?

 

[Gin]

"So-called road rage" sounds about right. I don't think we are anywhere near the truth. Father tries to make it sound that they didn't reveal suspect's name to keep the integrity of the investigation. But police are very clear the name wasn't revealed to them either. So how does that help the investigation? I don't understand why they presumably didn't tell the police they knew the suspect?

BBM. Good question. JMO, All I can come up with is that they were completely certain the police wouldn't be impressed with why they had regular interactions.

I don't buy for a minute the suspect was frequently sitting in the park for the sole reason to chat with a middle aged woman neighbor who complained about his appearance, and sometimes brought him a sandwich. No way, no how.

Something else was going on.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

He is nowhere near the height or weight of the presumed person in the sketch. And why the sketch if they knew the guy? Wouldn't it be simpler to give police a name?

I think once they knew he had crossed over to murder they were scared to out him. He lived just a block away and he could come in the middle of the night and murder them all or burn their house down.

JMO

 

[newone]

"So-called road rage" sounds about right. I don't think we are anywhere near the truth. Father tries to make it sound that they didn't reveal suspect's name to keep the integrity of the investigation. But police are very clear the name wasn't revealed to them either. So how does that help the investigation? I don't understand why they presumably didn't tell the police they knew the suspect?

that whole thing that our elders warned us about perhaps?

''known or judged by the company we keep--his gang affiliations and misbehaviour'' MOO

 

[jjenny]

I think once they knew he had crossed over to murder they were scared to out him. He lived just a block away and he could come in the middle of the night and murder them all or burn their house down.

JMO

They were scared of him? Wouldn't it make sense to turn him over to the police ASAP then, rather than letting him roam around free for a week, while offering a car for information leading to his arrest? I find it bizarre, to say the least. He could have come in the middle of the night during that week, which he couldn't have done if he was arrested and in custody.

 

[Ian]

http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-ne...un-high-in-road-rage-murder-case-401894467740

Here we go. This more recent video clip seems to confirm there was an earlier 'shootout' in another location (given) before the fatal exchange of gunfire. Wow, the Meyers seem to be completely spinning this story.

The first shots fired were at 'Via Reye and Alta' per the news video.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

BBM. Good question. JMO, All I can come up with is that they were completely certain the police wouldn't be impressed with why they had regular interactions.

I don't buy for a minute the suspect was frequently sitting in the park for the sole reason to chat with a middle aged woman neighbor who complained about his appearance and sometimes brought him a sandwich. No way, no how.

Why? I don't think he was there to solely chat with Tammy but I can certainly see her talking with him from time to time.

She probably knew he had lost his dad and he may have looked sad. She probably also knew he tried to be a gang banger and would harass girls in the park. Didn't he just put a knife to a girl's throat in this same park before he shot Tammy?

I think she did talk with him casually trying to uplift him by telling him he is the man of the house now that his dad is gone. To be a man and pull his pants so that he wouldn't look like a gang banger.

I am sure others saw her talking with him in the park at times.

I don't find anything suspicious about this. She was a motherly figure and it does show she did care about other people. IMO

 

[jjenny]

http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-ne...un-high-in-road-rage-murder-case-401894467740

Here we go. This more recent video clip seems to confirm there was an earlier 'shootout' in another location (given) before the fatal exchange of gunfire. Wow, the Meyers seem to be completely spinning this story.

That doesn't surprise me one bit.

 

[newone]

http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-ne...un-high-in-road-rage-murder-case-401894467740

Here we go. This more recent video clip seems to confirm there was an earlier 'shootout' in another location (given) before the fatal exchange of gunfire. Wow, the Meyers seem to be completely spinning this story.

Wow....it would be reassuring if there was evidence gathered at that location and it has been examined by LE....

 

[oceanblueeyes]

They were scared of him? Wouldn't it make sense to turn him over to the police ASAP then, rather than letting him roam around free for a week, while offering a car for information leading to his arrest? I find it bizarre, to say the least. He could have come in the middle of the night during that week, which he couldn't have done if he was arrested and in custody.

Yes it would, but it is hard to get into the thoughts of other people to understand why they do certain things.

Maybe they felt if someone else turned him in then his rage wouldn't be against the entire family if they did so. Maybe they thought he was a gang banger and other members or friends would retaliate against them if they told.

All I know in so many cases like this the victim's family is bashed and trashed for every word they have said in the media. I don't find this one to be any different.

But I do not believe that anyone in the Myers family is involved in the murder of Tammy.

Should concrete evidence prove otherwise then of course my opinion will certainly change in a heartbeat.

 

[jjenny]

Why? I don't think he was there to solely chat with Tammy but I can certainly see her talking with him from time to time.

She probably knew he had lost his dad and he may have looked sad. She probably also knew he tried to be a gang banger and would harass girls in the park. Didn't he just put a knife to a girl's throat in this same park before he shot Tammy?

I think she did talk with him casually trying to uplift him by telling him he is the man of the house now that his dad is gone. To be a man and pull his pants so that he wouldn't look like a gang banger.

I am sure others saw her talking with him in the park at times.

I don't find anything suspicious about this. She was a motherly figure and it does show she did care about other people. IMO

So this motherly figure got her son with a gun to go looking for the suspect after supposed road rage? Why?

 

[Gin]

Why? I don't think he was there to solely chat with Tammy but I can certainly see her talking with him from time to time.

She probably knew he had lost his dad and he may have looked sad. She probably also knew he tried to be a gang banger and would harass girls in the park. Didn't he just put a knife to a girl's throat in this same park before he shot Tammy?

I think she did talk with him casually trying to uplift him by telling him he is the man of the house now that his dad is gone. To be a man and pull his pants so that he wouldn't look like a gang banger.

I am sure others saw her talking with him in the park at times.

I don't find anything suspicious about this. She was a motherly figure and it does show she did care about other people. IMO

We probably have a difference of opinion.
Just my thoughts, I think if it was all innocence and light, the family would have told the truth from the beginning.
Their mom was killed. Why in the world would they deliberately withhold relevant information from the police?
I think probably because they had a reason to.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

So this motherly figure got her son with a gun to go looking for the suspect after supposed road rage? Why?

Because she knew he could be violent but she may have thought she could talk some sense into him.

Now that there are two scenes where bullet casings were found it shows why they came back and tried to hide their vehicle so he wouldn't see it.

I think he went ballistic with rage.