NV - Tesla Cybertruck explosion at Trump hotel in Vegas investigated as a possible terrorist act, 1 Jan 2025

[Tricia]

THE TOPIC IS THE TESLA TRUCK EXPLOSION.
PLEASE STOP WITH THE POLITICAL COMMENTS AND OFF-TOPIC COMMENTS.

 

[Betty P]

From BREAKING: Las Vegas Metro police release more letters from bomber Matthew Livelsberger where he tells Americans to “rally around” Donald Trump, Elon Musk and RFK Jr.

News 8 in Las Vegas

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875327808253411604

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Yep, that's a manifesto from a domestic terrorist/ suicide bomber. Trying to stir up another insurrection. JMO

 

[Friday Fan]

Yep, that's a manifesto from a domestic terrorist/ suicide bomber. Trying to stir up another insurrection. JMO

Yeah, I thought he removed posts on SM because he was "depressed and suicidal" over his wife and.you know like how people "get rid of stuff" before they commit suicide. Well, I was wrong about that....

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Thread is under cleanup re discussion that has veered into talk of drones.

Members may discuss what ML said, but please don't derail the thread further by delving into NJ drones, drone activity, who's behind it, who isn't behind it, what it may be, what he may have meant, etc.

There is a separate thread for discussion of the NJ mystery drone activity. It is HERE.

 

[Friday Fan]

Security tightened at Joint Base San Antonio after New Orleans, Las Vegas bloodshed​

The Pentagon is tightening security at Joint Base San Antonio Due to both events.


The edict took effect Friday & affects everyone entering JBSA, including some 80,000 people employed at the four main installations: Lackland & Randolph Air Force bases, Fort Sam Houston & Camp Bullis.

Northern Command said in a statement that “due to the recent attacks in New Orleans and Las Vegas,” it had ordered “increased force protection measures at installations, facilities, and units” across the country.

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/joint-base-trusted-traveler-suspended-20013896.php

 

[Charlot123]

From BREAKING: Las Vegas Metro police release more letters from bomber Matthew Livelsberger where he tells Americans to “rally around” Donald Trump, Elon Musk and RFK Jr.

News 8 in Las Vegas

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875327808253411604

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This is exactly the photo I thought of when I read about unusual IED. If the IED Jabbar didn’t explode contained some bacteria or such, that would be a hint at RFK. Only it is not “rallying around.”

 

[LordMo]

Yep, that's a manifesto from a domestic terrorist/ suicide bomber. Trying to stir up another insurrection. JMO

good lord, this man had the intelligence and reasoning capabilities of a turnip.

 

[dexgirl]

Wow. This man is unhinged and ranting in that manifesto.

 

[sunspun]

@LasVegasLocally


LVMPD has released messages found on the cell phone of Matthew Livelsberger, the driver of the Tesla Cybertruck that exploded outside the Trump Las Vegas on Jan 1.

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4:59 PM · Jan 3, 2025


More from Livelsberger, who was an active duty U.S. Army Green Beret: "We are being led by weak and feckless leadership who only serve to enrich themselves."


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It looks like Matthew Livelsberger visited the Stage Door Casino/Battista's Hole in the Wall parking lot before blowing up his rented Cybertruck at Trump International.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875310933507240102

Wow, never expected to hear that name here (or anywhere actually)... The Stage Door, it's called a casino, but really it's just a bar with a few slots and video poker on the bar. Or at least it was, back in 1993, when I worked there as a bartender! Guess it could be all different by now. I forget how long ago that really was! Its entrance was on a little side street, right off the Strip, so its address wasn't "on the Strip", but one wall of it faced the Strip. I think the address was actually on a street called Audrie. It was right there where the Flamingo and Tropicana and IP were -- are those casinos even still there?? Hah, I haven't been to Vegas in many years! I'm surprised Stage Door is still there. It was less for the tourist crowd, more for locals who worked at the big casinos on that corner, specifically the stage crew workers, hence the name. On paydays, their cashier cage had long lines of casino workers that came in to cash their paychecks. And I'm even more surprised that Bauttista's Hole in the Wall Pizza is still there. It was just as the name says, a little hole in the wall place selling pizza by the slice. Right next door to the bar. The Stage Door's claim to fame back then was that they had the lowest priced cigarettes on the Strip. And across the street was the MGM Grand, near where Tupak was shot and killed right on the street in '96, right after I'd just quit working there.

So wonder what he was doing there. Must have been familiar with the place already, not really a place a non-local just stumbles into. Unless, as I say, things have changed since my time there...

 

[nhmemorymaker]

It's been confirmed it was him. I believe it was confirmed with DNA.

He was stationed in Germany and came to Colorado to visit his wife and baby for Christmas.
His wife kicked him out of the house at Christmas and it's kinda hard to "order bomb parts" when you're kicked out of the house. He left for LV on Dec 28th.

really good point.
perhaps that is why he bought what eve he cound, and why it was a mess of stuff.....

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I think this should of course be thoroughly investigated and all leads followed. But I don't see anything yet that leads to terrorism. It seems like a suicide, though it is strange for sure. These weren't high powered explosives, they were fireworks. That is pretty low power. Given his training and experience, if he had wanted to injury or kill people, he could have. But I am guessing this tragedy is just spilling out of a domestic dispute. But i think the investigation should proceed.

I'm thinking he desperately wanted to be heard---by his hero, Donald Trump. Not to harm, just to be heard of his extravagant expose in his manifesto. No chain of command would listen to him. But his hero will

I am starting to think that this is really going to haunt Trump...because of the sacrifice ML has made.....

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Wow, never expected to hear that name here (or anywhere actually)... The Stage Door, it's called a casino, but really it's just a bar with a few slots and video poker on the bar. Or at least it was, back in 1993, when I worked there as a bartender! Guess it could be all different by now. I forget how long ago that really was! Its entrance was on a little side street, right off the Strip, so its address wasn't "on the Strip", but one wall of it faced the Strip. I think the address was actually on a street called Audrie. It was right there where the Flamingo and Tropicana and IP were -- are those casinos even still there?? Hah, I haven't been to Vegas in many years! I'm surprised Stage Door is still there. It was less for the tourist crowd, more for locals who worked at the big casinos on that corner, specifically the stage crew workers, hence the name. On paydays, their cashier cage had long lines of casino workers that came in to cash their paychecks. And I'm even more surprised that Bauttista's Hole in the Wall Pizza is still there. It was just as the name says, a little hole in the wall place selling pizza by the slice. Right next door to the bar. The Stage Door's claim to fame back then was that they had the lowest priced cigarettes on the Strip. And across the street was the MGM Grand, near where Tupak was shot and killed right on the street in '96, right after I'd just quit working there.

So wonder what he was doing there. Must have been familiar with the place already, not really a place a non-local just stumbles into. Unless, as I say, things have changed since my time there...

maybe some sort of connection with someone he needed....

 

[nhmemorymaker]

It does sound as if he was unmoored and desperate, making lots of bad impulsive decisions culminating with this. I would not be surprised if this was fundamentally just a high-profile suicide.

i dunno..... I am starting to think this is going to be one huge "revelation" of stuff in the midst of the madness..
i believe huge efforts will be made to disqualify anything he is saying.

boy oh boy... I have never felt like I'm into conspriracy stuff... !! But I am this morning. need more coffee.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

dbm

 

[nhmemorymaker]

It will be interesting to see when the photos of his family were all taken down from ML's facebook page, as reported by ML's uncle. If they were taken down before the argument with his current wife at Christmas, before he returned to the U.S. for his leave from being stationed in Germany, then it's possible he planned this before he left Germany to come back to the U.S. for the Christmas holiday. If that is the case, then the argument with his wife over his infidelity was likely not instrumental in the actions he took in Las Vegas. He was on some kind of mission.

Looking forward to learning more as the investigation continues.

I am so with you at this point: then it's possible he planned this before he left Germany to come back to the U.S. for the Christmas holiday. If that is the case, then the argument with his wife over his infidelity was likely not instrumental in the actions he took in Las Vegas. He was on some kind of mission.


i am even wondering if it was a grander plan, that getting the wife angry would be be better than leaving her loving and sad. Maybe a real stretch..... but this was a brilliant man of war. Maybe we see his crazy. But he was brilliant.

 

[indicolite22]

I'm thinking he desperately wanted to be heard---by his hero, Donald Trump. Not to harm, just to be heard of his extravagant expose in his manifesto. No chain of command would listen to him. But his hero will

I am starting to think that this is really going to haunt Trump...because of the sacrifice ML has made.....

Nah, this will be spun the way that suits a preconceived agenda and the supporters will buy it. ML is not around to control the narrative.
I hate to think what ML would do if his guy didn't win.

 

[indicolite22]

It's possible that he tried to mask possible personal reasons for his suicide (state of his marriage, mental health or finances) with a political motive to gain public attention and sympathy. He wanted to be seen as a hero, not a loser.

 

[justtrish]

i dunno..... I am starting to think this is going to be one huge "revelation" of stuff in the midst of the madness..
i believe huge efforts will be made to disqualify anything he is saying.

boy oh boy... I have never felt like I'm into conspriracy stuff... !! But I am this morning. need more coffee.

I am not into conspriracy stuff either. I think sometimes there are bits of truth in these conspiracy ideas though. I think often there are bits of truth and then people keep going and going and feel like every thing related to an event is part of some bigger plan/plot.. it just keeps getting added to until it's bonkers. That doesn't mean that those things that really were true are now not true, it just means ALL of it isn't accurate.

I think ML really could know about the drones and he really could know about the incidents in Afghanistan that now likely haunted him. He could really have PTSD that he struggled with.. and maybe part of that was what he knows happened in 2019 and his part in it. I also think that as time has went on he has felt he was being followed and that may not have been true at all. It doesn't mean that he didn't have legit concerns about Afghanistan in 2019 or the drones.

I

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I am not into conspriracy stuff either. I think sometimes there are bits of truth in these conspiracy ideas though. I think often there are bits of truth and then people keep going and going and feel like every thing related to an event is part of some bigger plan/plot.. it just keeps getting added to until it's bonkers. That doesn't mean that those things that really were true are now not true, it just means ALL of it isn't accurate.

I think ML really could know about the drones and he really could know about the incidents in Afghanistan that now likely haunted him. He could really have PTSD that he struggled with.. and maybe part of that was what he knows happened in 2019 and his part in it. I also think that as time has went on he has felt he was being followed and that may not have been true at all. It doesn't mean that he didn't have legit concerns about Afghanistan in 2019 or the drones.

I

Soooo well stated.
I think there are rare times like this, where the vast majority of folks who admonish conspiracy, can see the mix of truth and fiction.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I am not into conspriracy stuff either. I think sometimes there are bits of truth in these conspiracy ideas though. I think often there are bits of truth and then people keep going and going and feel like every thing related to an event is part of some bigger plan/plot.. it just keeps getting added to until it's bonkers. That doesn't mean that those things that really were true are now not true, it just means ALL of it isn't accurate.

I think ML really could know about the drones and he really could know about the incidents in Afghanistan that now likely haunted him. He could really have PTSD that he struggled with.. and maybe part of that was what he knows happened in 2019 and his part in it. I also think that as time has went on he has felt he was being followed and that may not have been true at all. It doesn't mean that he didn't have legit concerns about Afghanistan in 2019 or the drones.

I

Soooo well stated.
I think there are rare times like this, where the vast majority of folks who admonish conspiracy, can see the mix of truth and fiction.