NV NV - Wellington, WhtMale 574UMNV, 35-50, off Sand Canyon Road, Mar'92 - #1

[carbuff]

Could you show me a pic of a real one in that position because I don't understand? I couldn't find one with the head down near the tail feathers. If that is the head, where are the talons? I am not trying to be difficult, but trying to picture this correctly and am not seeing it.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/09/article-2230417-0F845D9D00000578-56_634x478.jpg

That's not quite the identical pose. The shirt's more square on.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I know this isn't the pose, but it's to show how meaty their legs are:

And then they usually tuck them back when flying:

Here's a sketch of someone depicting the legs tucked back:

I'll look for better examples if that's not clear.

 

[Miss Muffet]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/09/article-2230417-0F845D9D00000578-56_634x478.jpg

That's not quite the identical pose. The shirt's more square on.

Maybe. I'm not entirely convinced, but I finally understand the pose you think you're seeing. If the bird's head was down like that, I think we'd see some evidence of the legs since they are very prominent in that pose.

 

[carbuff]

No, that's clear. I see what you're saying and I don't disagree with you. But I think if its legs are in any of those positions, they're below where the cloth is torn.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I'm not seeing it pointing backwards. I'm seeing it pointing down.

Like this. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/09/article-2230417-0F845D9D00000578-56_634x478.jpg

If it's in this position, the legs would be down below the edge of the cloth.

I don't believe the legs would be down below the edge of the cloth without the design showing them extending from the body and in front of the tail feathers.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I'm most excited about the possible background scenery. That's a great discovery if that's what it is.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I'm enlarging the lightbox photo to get a better idea of what you're seeing.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I see the face in the lightbox picture enlarged.

 

[Miss Muffet]

It's a shame the forum makes the uploads small pictures afterwards. I'm going to upload it into a photo album and see if we can post side by sides of the lightbox.

I posted the head of a hawk above, but I think the lightbox picture is more like an eagle head, don't you?

 

[carbuff]

It's a shame the forum makes the uploads small pictures afterwards. I'm going to upload it into a photo album and see if we can post side by sides of the lightbox.

I posted the head of a hawk above, but I think the lightbox picture is more like an eagle head, don't you?

Maybe even an owl?

 

[Miss Muffet]

My thanks to carbuff for having the patience to explain this to me!

 

[Miss Muffet]

Maybe even an owl?

Yeah, I think we need to go back to the drawing board and readdress this with a fresh mind.

 

[Miss Muffet]

It's a shame the detectives can't use Tide and serious stain remover to eliminate the dirt, but I understand they can't do that to evidence. I'd soak that sucker for days and use a toothbrush and to get it clean. I'd also use Iron Out to eliminate the blood. I'm sort of fanatic about the chemistry of stains. Being a SAHM for too many years does that to a woman.

 

[GGE]

I wonder if the theme of the shirt might be something in the spirit of this -

with a sun/moon, native american with head dress, and flying bird of some sort. We sold many of those style of shirts at the KMart I worked at as a teen in the 80s!

 

[GGE]

Maybe even an owl?

We think alike. I just spent a very long time searching for owls flying with their heads down coming in from the right with large ear/eyebrow tuft things to try to find something similar. Doesn't seem feasible IMO but maybe I'm just worn out from looking!

 

[Tulessa]

Am I the only one seeing the face of a wolf inside of CB's oval? Also, has anyone went with the idea that this could be the Mythological thunderbird? The more I look at this, the more I am seeing a headdress. :thinking:

 

[Miss Muffet]

I wonder if the theme of the shirt might be something in the spirit of this -

with a sun/moon, native american with head dress, and flying bird of some sort. We sold many of those style of shirts at the KMart I worked at as a teen in the 80s!

But the tail feathers in our design are definitely pointed downwards from the wings. I don't think there's a headdress. However, I obviously can be swayed by a very persuasive presentation of your opinion, like carbuff did. LOL

 

[Miss Muffet]

Am I the only one seeing the face of a wolf inside of CB's oval? Also, has anyone went with the idea that this could be the Mythological thunderbird? The more I look at this, the more I am seeing a headdress. :thinking:

It looks like the tail feathers of a thunderbird are long. Last week, I was trying to make it a Phoenix (for the orange) and the tail interfered with that theory of mine.

 

[carbuff]

Or this: http://www.themountain.com/eagle-shield-t-shirt/

 

[GGE]

But the tail feathers in our design are definitely pointed downwards from the wings. I don't think there's a headdress. But I obviously can be swayed by very persuasive presentation of your opinion, like carbuff did. LOL

I need to step back and let things percolate a bit... reassess... I might not even think I see it later...