GUILTY NY - Ex-President Donald Trump, charged with 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records, Apr 2023, Trial 25 Mar 2024 #3

[browneyes]

America thanks the jurors
JMO

AMEN.
I am so proud of them for following the evidence and not care who the defendant was.

 

[JennieM]

5m ago
Here are some pictures of the scenes outside the Manhattan criminal courtroom where Donald Trump has been found guilty of all 34 counts of falsifying business records in a criminal hush-money scheme to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

People celebrate after former President Donald Trump was found guilty on all counts at Manhattan Criminal Court on May 30, 2024 in New York City. Photograph: Spencer Platt/Getty Images

People react to the guilty verdict announced against former President Donald Trump outside Manhattan Criminal Court, Thursday, May 30, 2024, in New York. Photograph: Julia Nikhinson/AP

People celebrate after former President Donald Trump was found guilty on all counts at Manhattan Criminal Court on May 30, 2024 in New York City. Photograph: Spencer Platt/Getty Images

Supporters of Donald Trump react outside the Manhattan criminal court to hearing a verdict in Trump's criminal trial over charges that he falsified business records to conceal money paid to silence star Stormy Daniels in 2016, in New York City. Photograph: Cheney Orr/Reuters

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[bestill]

I do not believe it will happen. They have family to keep safe.

We shall see.

 

[JennieM]

NEW

Trump leaves the courthouse​

Getty Images

Donald Trump has left the Manhattan courthouse along with his security.

There are multiple black SUVs blocking the street as his motorcade snakes out into rush hour traffic.

A police escort leads the way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-69069142

 

[Sarahlou]

I know I'm a little wet behind the ears, but can a convicted felon run for president? Honest question.

It's madness! Shouldn't be allowed.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

and as long as you are not a convicted felon and have not had your rights revoked, that is your right.

And I'm not the only one. Plenty of law abiding voters will not let this verdict cloud their views on President Trump. JMO.

 

[JennieM]

2m ago

Is Trump going to jail?​

Sam Levine
A Manhattan jury has convicted Donald Trump on all 34 counts of falsifying business records in the hush-money case. The immediate next question is: what punishment the former US president should receive?

It’s a decision that rests entirely with Juan Merchan, the judge overseeing the case. The crimes Trump has been found guilty of, falsifying business records in the first degree, are class E felonies in New York, the least serious category, and punishable by up to four years in prison. His sentencing is set for 11 July.

But Trump is unlikely to be sentenced to prison, experts say. He is a first-time offender, and the crime he has been found guilty of is a non-violent paper crime.

“I think the judge would probably not incarcerate him under those circumstances alone,” said Cheryl Bader, a law professor at Fordham University who called any sentence of incarceration “unlikely”.

But also given that he is a former president, has a Secret Service detail and is also the presumptive Republican nominee, I think a term of incarceration would be logistically very difficult, but also would have political implications that I think Judge Merchan would want to avoid.

Any punishment is likely to consist of fines, probation, community service or some combination of those. Karen Friedman Agnifilo, a former top prosecutor in the Manhattan district attorney’s office, said:

I would like to see community service – picking up trash on the subway.

Much could depend on how Merchan interprets Trump’s conduct, including any lack of remorse. “I can’t imagine we will see a remorseful, apologetic Trump if it comes time for sentencing,” Bader said.

Judges also consider the harm caused. On one hand, Judge Merchan could view this as a technical recording violation to cover up tawdry conduct, causing only minimal harm. On the other hand, he could view Trump’s conduct as inflicting deep harm on the entire country by depriving the voting public of their right to cast an informed vote in the highest-ranking national election.

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[IzzyBlanche]

I'm sure this will not prevent him from being the Republican nominee.

I'm so old I remember when Republicans bragged about being the party of law and order.

 

[sds71]

Jurors may have been whisked away in vans after the verdict against Trump.The judge gave jurors the option to talk to anyone they wanted, but it looks like everyone took the invitation to leave discreetly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796298746483155185

 

[waldojabba]

Trump: This was a disgrace. This is a rigged trial

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796291067115135248

Looks like the Witch Hunt found the witch! Well ding Dong y’all 34 - 0.
Where is the Merch! I’ll take a baseball cap with 34-0 !
Oh Happy Day.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I'm sure this will not prevent him from being the Republican nominee.

I'm so old I remember when Republicans bragged about being the party of law and order.

We still are. JMO.

 

[JennieM]

Jurors may have been whisked away in vans after the verdict against Trump.The judge gave jurors the option to talk to anyone they wanted, but it looks like everyone took the invitation to leave discreetly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796298746483155185

The problem is Trump has seen them and knows who they are.

 

[formerlyme]

AT least he won't be voting for himself if he cannot vote, I guess he could ask the Mrs. to vote twice. J/K . And we won't have to hear reporters asking him who he voted for.

But in all seriousness a prison sentence would mean a vote for him is a vote for his running mate since he would be incapacitated during that time.

*being respectful, but I feel the verdict was correct* (<modsnip>

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Has Trump claimed he was exonerated yet?

 

[MollyHarps]

His total disregard for the justice system and calling judges corrupt is such a dangerous precedent to set by somebody who has such a following.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

We still are. JMO.

Having a convicted felon as your nominee kind of negates that IMO.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

His total disregard for the justice system and calling judges corrupt is such a dangerous precedent to set by somebody who has such a following.

I agree 100%. And all his acolytes.

 

[ilovewings]

Analysis

A devastating outcome, whatever Trump says​

Gary O'Donoghue
Senior North America correspondent

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Whatever Donald Trump says, this is a devastating outcome for the former president.

It's one thing being controversial and provocative, it's quite another being a convicted criminal.

There are of course upsides to this outcome; it will further invigorate his supporters and make them even more angry than they already are; it will also, if the past is a prologue, help the former president raise money, not just for his mounting legal fees but also for his campaign for president.

The downside is that in some of those key swing states in the Midwest and the Sun Belt, there are voters who will be unhappy about supporting a candidate with a criminal record and it doesn't take many of them to affect the outcome in some very tight contests.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-69069142

BBM

I have to be optimistic about this guilty verdict: it will not change his rabid supporters' minds-- so be it, but as you point out there are voters out there who will question supporting a candidate with a criminal record and these voters, who could be substantial in number, enough to affect the outcome of this election. Recent polls have shown that a decent percentage believed him to be guilty.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Having a convicted felon as your nominee kind of negates that IMO.

Nope. I disagree with the verdict and I'm confident that it will be reversed. JMO.

 

[Vaderman]

Trump is pissed. I love it. He can go home now and get smacked by Melania.

Probably with a magazine of himself...

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