NY - Gov Spitzer tells staff he's linked to prostitution ring

  • #561
That's what I keep wondering, Mygirl! Hotpants name/face is all over NY probably. Mostly I feel sorry for the daughters. I can imagine "mean girls" having a blast with this one. It would be horribly embarrassing at that age. I have only seen ads for the GGW videos. Is it mostly half-naked girls romping around? Maybe I shouldn't ask that here, but curiousity made me. :D

I feel VERY sorry for the Spitzer daughters. Faced with this embarrassment, how are they ever attending school?

My sympathy for Silda has waned, however, once I learned she had encouraged her husband not to resign. What was she thinking?
 
  • #562
I feel VERY sorry for the Spitzer daughters. Faced with this embarrassment, how are they ever attending school?

My sympathy for Silda has waned, however, once I learned she had encouraged her husband not to resign. What was she thinking?

Hi Trino-

I think Silda found herself in a terrible situation and I think she handled things the best she felt she could at the time and under the circumstances. Here's Taximom's great post from the Spitzer thread in the Crimes in the News forum:

Taximom said:
Excerpt from "The Clandestine Activities That Eliot Spitzer Loved"
http://nymag.com/news/features/45118/

"She couldn’t stop crying. Barely one day earlier, the man she’d been married to for two decades, the father of her three daughters, had stunned Silda Wall Spitzer with the revelation that he’d been sleeping with prostitutes. Now here they were, on a cloudy Monday afternoon, in a warren of state-government offices on the 39th floor of a midtown building, among shell-shocked and tearful staffers. The New York Times had just broken the story on its Website.

She hated what he’d done, hated the idea of being seen as a “stand by your man” wife. But maybe appearing together today would somehow help their daughters through this nightmare. And Silda, an experienced lawyer herself, had somehow been able to think objectively about what her absence might say to federal prosecutors. She and Lloyd Constantine, a longtime Spitzer confidant, were nearly alone in arguing against an immediate resignation; Eliot, recognizing he was a political dead man, had wanted to do it first thing Monday morning. So they’d settled on a press conference in which Spitzer would apologize, admit nothing, and cling to his job. It was scheduled to begin at 2:15. Nearly an hour later, Silda wasn’t ready for an excruciating appearance in front of the press.

Spitzer stood still, not trying to console her or to make excuses. He was silent, his head down. He would wait as long as Silda needed. Spitzer dabbed his eyes. Silda slowly composed herself. Then they walked through the door, into the glare of TV lights, for the beginning of the end. Eliot Spitzer’s secret was out." (more at link)

Very long, but very interesting article. It sure helped me understand Silda's investment in Eliot, and Eliot's psyche.
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  • #563
"It's kind of like finding a winning lottery ticket in the cushions of your couch." ----> To this I say I wouldn't want to know what's in the cushions of Ashley's couch! If she really made him keep a condom on, I'd say he's probably lucky because Lord knows what diseases he could have gotten and passed on. Even if it was just oral, did they use protection either way?

Sounds like ES was #9 of 1,000. :sick: Of course, who knows how long ES has been at it, and what STD's he might have.

O/T: PSA, I almost fainted when I saw your nick up there. Welcome back! I hope all is well. :blowkiss:

OMG! What a great post! I love the crab! :)
 
  • #564
IdahoMom, after I posted that I figured she probably did the whole Brazilian thing so she wouldn't have to worry about those.
 
  • #565
Here's the question I have. Why do these wives stand there next to the husband in these press conferences? I'm sorry,but I'd say,"You're on your own buddy." How humiliating!

I am a few days late on this, but I imagine the conversation hours before the pc goes like this....

Wife to Hubby: Okay you SOB you have humiliated me so here is the deal, I will stand by you at the pc and I will stay with you for 6 months after you resign after that I will divorce you. On the way to the pc we will be stopping by my attorneys office, he has already drawn up the papers for you to sign and you will give me EVERYTHING I ask for in the divorce no questions asked. Got it? Good, now get your sorry 🤬🤬🤬 dressed and lets get this over with.
 
  • #566
Does anyone know where the Spitzers are living at the moment?
 
  • #567
IdahoMom, after I posted that I figured she probably did the whole Brazilian thing so she wouldn't have to worry about those.

I thought that, too...but, who knows?

Here's Page Six's coverage of poor lil Ashley (IMO, she willingly let herself be exploited):

http://www.pagesix.com/story/hooker+kristen+gets+wild

I am a few days late on this, but I imagine the conversation hours before the pc goes like this....

Wife to Hubby: Okay you SOB you have humiliated me so here is the deal, I will stand by you at the pc and I will stay with you for 6 months after you resign after that I will divorce you. On the way to the pc we will be stopping by my attorneys office, he has already drawn up the papers for you to sign and you will give me EVERYTHING I ask for in the divorce no questions asked. Got it? Good, now get your sorry 🤬🤬🤬 dressed and lets get this over with.

Great post! I hope it went down like that!
 
  • #568
I dunno. Silda still supported him staying.

I guess I'm tired of this "Stand By Your Man BS." What a great statement to American woman AND to her daughters it would have been if Silda had refused to accompany the SOB onto the platform and had immediately called a moving truck.

Spitzer apparently has been doing this since 2002. I certainly wouldn't trust this man enough to stay in a marriage. It's not a one-time indiscretion with another woman.

http://nymag.com/news/features/45118/index3.html

"The aide is less than charitable in describing Mrs. Spitzer’s initial reaction. “Silda probably thinks, ‘I could have just been a rich Park Avenue wife, or a big lawyer. Instead, I gave ten years of my life to this political bull***** so you’re not going to just walk away.’ It was likely a combination of that and being completely delusional: ‘I’m married to the governor of New York, and he’s the greatest thing that ever happened to this state.’ She really wanted him to fight it out.”
 
  • #569
I am a few days late on this, but I imagine the conversation hours before the pc goes like this....

Wife to Hubby: Okay you SOB you have humiliated me so here is the deal, I will stand by you at the pc and I will stay with you for 6 months after you resign after that I will divorce you. On the way to the pc we will be stopping by my attorneys office, he has already drawn up the papers for you to sign and you will give me EVERYTHING I ask for in the divorce no questions asked. Got it? Good, now get your sorry 🤬🤬🤬 dressed and lets get this over with.

Good post. I think Silda's got to make a move toward divorce. The news is still filled with stories about Ashley (AKA Kristen). How can her daughters survive this? They're not young childen; they understand what's going on.

With Silda's intelligence, good looks, and classy style, she must realize there's a better class of available men out there.
 
  • #570
I don't doubt she's smart. According to her myspace, she left home at 17 and was at one point, homeless. While her means of earning a living may be repulsive to some of us, for others (myself) it's understandable and sad.

As long as men are willing to "run around", they'll find someone to do it with, paid or unpaid. At this point, I don't see that she has to excuse herself of anything. She was earning a living and is apparently unmarried. (ie: she broke no vows)

I don't pass judgement on this girl.

Again, late to the party, but I agree with Karole. I knew someone who was in this line of work just outside of DC. Gorgeous, college educated, her rational was 'in our 20's most people engage in sport sex, why not get paid for it?' I agreed with her. She was in for 5 years, made a nice little nest egg for herself and invested well then went into doing something in the art field, can't remember if it was a buyer or appraiser. Her major in college was art and because of the money she had made in those 5 years prior she was then able to pursue a career in what she really loved, she doesn't get paid as much as you would think, but she gets to travel. Seems fine to me.

At least she was not a hooker on a street corner selling herself to pay for her next fix. She told me that sometimes the men would just pay her for drinks and to talk. It was a nice break for them. Someone was always wanting something from them either in their business or personal life. And one of the big complaints from the ones who just wanted to talk was that as soon as they get home the wife is nagging them to do this or complaining about that and they told her it was nice to have someone to just sit and relax with and who asked them questions about them and really listened. Now that's the sad part when you think about it. They have to pay another woman to just sit and listen to them?
 
  • #571
^^^^ True true!
I think it's all for show, as most politicians and their lives are. Many of them hang in there til the press dies down then walk. I don't understand why they even wait THAT long. The man is ruined now, so who cares if she helps or not?

What gets me is not 48hrs after he steps down the new guy admits to his own infidelities. Ok, so they're going from one who pays for it to another who doesn't. Is that the only difference? Sheesh!

I'll tell you something else, I'm sick and tired of women like this Ashley Dupre making so much money and fame off of morally reprehensible acts. As young as she is, she's apparently been using and selling sex since she was a teenager. WTF?! This piece of trash will now become a famous millionaire, along with Monica Lewinsky, all for being 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 with political big wigs.

What is wrong with this world?!


Ok, I feel much better now that I got that off my chest. *steps down from soapbox*
 
  • #572
Bravo, shadowplay! :clap:
 
  • #573
Maybe I am being bias here but for some reason Monica Lewinsky seems 'better' than Ashley to me. Monica wasn't a prostitute.

See to me Monica was worse. Why you ask? Well, Monica knew Bill was married and pursued him as much as he pursued her. Ashley, well, she was in business and Eliot called her agency, he knew he was married when he made that call. Did Ashely know he was married? It really doesn't matter because she did not pursue him. MJO
 
  • #574
I can tell you where he's NOT sleeping! lol

WB, Adnoid. Got any interesting photos for us?
 
  • #575
See to me Monica was worse. Why you ask? Well, Monica knew Bill was married and pursued him as much as he pursued her. Ashley, well, she was in business and Eliot called her agency, he knew he was married when he made that call. Did Ashely know he was married? It really doesn't matter because she did not pursue him. MJO
You make a very good point. Monica did pursue him, didn't she?
 
  • #576
^^^^ True true!
I think it's all for show, as most politicians and their lives are. Many of them hang in there til the press dies down then walk. I don't understand why they even wait THAT long. The man is ruined now, so who cares if she helps or not?

What gets me is not 48hrs after he steps down the new guy admits to his own infidelities. Ok, so they're going from one who pays for it to another who doesn't. Is that the only difference? Sheesh!

I'll tell you something else, I'm sick and tired of women like this Ashley Dupre making so much money and fame off of morally reprehensible acts. As young as she is, she's apparently been using and selling sex since she was a teenager. WTF?! This piece of trash will now become a famous millionaire, along with Monica Lewinsky, all for being 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 with political big wigs.

What is wrong with this world?!


Ok, I feel much better now that I got that off my chest. *steps down from soapbox*

You know I struggle personally from making these kinds of judgements, but I cannot help but feel you are right. It makes me so sad for our society that exploitation is still so handsomely paid. I am appalled from the need to objectify and reduce a living breathing human to a list of parts-and I don't think it is particularly feminist to participate in it simply because you have a choice whether or not to do so...after all of my years on the earth I just cannot reconcile with the message it is sending to my lovely, intelligent tiny daughters...not to mention my son.
 
  • #577
You make a very good point. Monica did pursue him, didn't she?

...but Bill was in an incredibly insulated position. He had to have WANTED to have her, otherwise, she wouldn't have had the access she did.
 
  • #578
You know I struggle personally from making these kinds of judgements, but I cannot help but feel you are right. It makes me so sad for our society that exploitation is still so handsomely paid. I am appalled from the need to objectify and reduce a living breathing human to a list of parts-and I don't think it is particularly feminist to participate in it simply because you have a choice whether or not to do so...after all of my years on the earth I just cannot reconcile with the message it is sending to my lovely, intelligent tiny daughters...not to mention my son.

I agree with all you said, but especially the bolded part. Looking at young kids' myspace photos, for instance, you can see the influence this kind of crap is having on the younger generation. It is DISGUSTING!
 
  • #579
Again, late to the party, but I agree with Karole. I knew someone who was in this line of work just outside of DC. Gorgeous, college educated, her rational was 'in our 20's most people engage in sport sex, why not get paid for it?' I agreed with her. She was in for 5 years, made a nice little nest egg for herself and invested well then went into doing something in the art field, can't remember if it was a buyer or appraiser. Her major in college was art and because of the money she had made in those 5 years prior she was then able to pursue a career in what she really loved, she doesn't get paid as much as you would think, but she gets to travel. Seems fine to me.

If this is what a young woman would do to accumulate a nest egg and it "seems fine," I must be living in another world.
 
  • #580
Prostitutes have reps? I thought they had pimps? :waitasec: :crazy:







Hmmm. Interesting, seems she's Been There, Done That in this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/18/dupree.girls.gone.wild.ap/index.html

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Stop that $1 million check: It turns out the call girl linked to Eliot Spitzer had already shed her clothes for "Girls Gone Wild" as an 18-year-old while partying in Miami, Florida, the video company's founder said Tuesday...........

............ "It'll save me a million bucks," Francis said Tuesday. "It's kind of like finding a winning lottery ticket in the cushions of your couch."

Francis said at that point, his offer was off the table: "We actually had been dealing with her rep," he said. "Our [offer] was the real deal. We just never made the connection."
 

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