Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 1

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I am so hoping the LE investigation turns up some clues today regarding Jennifer...

lease:

 

[nursebeeme]

hugely detailed article....
http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

hugely detailed article....
http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman

Thanks Nurse!

You beat me to it!

I was just going to post this article!

Lots of questions answered... except the main one...

Where is Jennifer?

lease:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://thedailystar.dcom/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman

(I am lousy with links... so if this one doesn't work for you, please refer to Nurse's post above...

Some details that stand out to me...

"Jennifer Renz Ramsaran, the 36-year-old stay-at-home-mom missing for a week under suspicious circumstances, had begun discussing the possibility of separating from her husband and had made new online gaming friends through her iPhone account, a family friend said Tuesday."

"Ramsaran, from Sheff Road in New Berlin, mysteriously vanished after her husband, Ganesh Ramsaran, a project manager for IBM, said she drove to a Syracuse mall while the couple's three young children were in school."

"Cutting said Ganesh Ramsaran has remained cooperative with investigators since the outset of the probe.
'He has not asked for an attorney, and he took a polygraph,' the sheriff said. 'He has been cooperative."

 

[shefner]

So Jennifer had made friends in the online gaming world...through her iphone, etc. Could she have agreed to meet one of these...or maybe she had met up with them before? I am just trying to figure it out.

I don't know why I don't feel anything against the hubby. I usually do in these cases. I think maybe Jennifer was going through a little life adjustment. The last child had started school, Jennifer was getting older, and maybe she felt bored or felt that life was leaving her behind. Its easy to feel this way as a stay-at-home mom.

Do we know which side of the road her cell phone was found?

 

[Londonrraine]

"He added that investigators are in the process of obtaining subpoenas in order to examine her telephone records."

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman

Her phone could very possibly provide some direction here,..how long do these subpoena's take to get?

 

[Londonrraine]

"He added that investigators are in the process of obtaining subpoenas in order to examine her telephone records."

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman

Her phone could very possibly provide some direction here,..how long do these subpoena's take to get?

I had LE get my cell records, which had to be done through subpoena, but I don't remember how long it took. I was threatened though, not MISSING. In a case like this, can't the Cell carrier speed this process up??

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I had LE get my cell records, which had to be done through subpoena, but I don't remember how long it took. I was threatened though, not MISSING. In a case like this, can't the Cell carrier speed this process up??

One would think! :what:

 

[Londonrraine]

One would think! :what:

If I recall correctly, the Officers got right on the phone with the cell company, and the pertinent info was released to LE, maybe faxed over to them. The actual paper log of calls took days, but i'm nearly certain that the calls/texts of concern were given to LE immediately.
I'm over 45, and the memory's going.... but i'm pretty sure about this!
Anyone able to back me up here?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

If I recall correctly, the Officers got right on the phone with the cell company, and the pertinent info was released to LE, maybe faxed over to them. The actual paper log of calls took days, but i'm nearly certain that the calls/texts of concern were given to LE immediately.
I'm over 45, and the memory's going.... but i'm pretty sure about this!
Anyone able to back me up here?

Just a thought...

Is it possible that it is taking longer so as to obtain the records of the person(s) in communication with Jennifer.....?

:dunno:

 

[Londonrraine]

Anything is possible, sure. But in my case, the records were obtained for incoming and outgoing texts.
There was no need for the other party's consent.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Anything is possible, sure. But in my case, the records were obtained for incoming and outgoing texts.
There was no need for the other party's consent.

Thanks....

I have never had to retrieve phone records... But if I do... I would want them ASAP!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I imagine the place where the car was found was just a "dumping" place for the car...

But I sure hope the LE are searching those apartments with a fine tooth comb!

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.evesun.com/news/stories/2012-12-19/16501/Search-continues-for-missing-woman/
http://www.evesun.com/galleries/edition/2012-12-19/SheffRoad.jpg

 

[LivingJuicy]

Now I feel like this reminds me of Katrina Smith. Ugh.

 

[nursebeeme]

does anyone know how far apart the van and cell phone are? Would the phone be on the way to the mall?

tia

 

[OldSteve]

So Jennifer had made friends in the online gaming world...through her iphone, etc. Could she have agreed to meet one of these...or maybe she had met up with them before? I am just trying to figure it out.

I don't know why I don't feel anything against the hubby. I usually do in these cases. I think maybe Jennifer was going through a little life adjustment. The last child had started school, Jennifer was getting older, and maybe she felt bored or felt that life was leaving her behind. Its easy to feel this way as a stay-at-home mom.

Do we know which side of the road her cell phone was found?

I agree with you - usually, I would feel the husband did it, but perhaps because of the very detailed news article
http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman
he doesn't seem to be acting guilty....

I find it strange that they got search warrants for the house, when husband gave permission to search? Sounds like they want to tear things apart?

No mention of polygraph results that they said he took.

Interesting that there is allot more news than we usually get..

 

[nursebeeme]

combined case map

http://goo.gl/maps/NQFJc

bumping up the case map! (thanks Pizza!)

 

[nursebeeme]

looking at the case map it sure would seem that she was headed to the mall! (now I need to revise my "theory")

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

looking at the case map it sure would seem that she was headed to the mall! (now I need to revise my "theory")

I am confused... Because Enzeder's map... page 1 - post #25 looks quite a bit different to me than Pizza's map...

On Endezer's map the phone and car are found on a route that could be taken to the Destiny USA... But it is not the straightest shot... It is kind of a detour.. Can someone help me out with these maps, please?

TIA. :seeya: