Found Deceased NY- Sam (Samantha) Nordquist, 24, of Minnesota,(identifies as male), traveled to New York, Canandaigua, Sep 2024 *arrests*

I agree. I find it premature that they are calling it not a hate crime, especially this early in the investigation. Imo.
I agree it shouldn’t be ruled out as a hate crime yet unless they already know motive.

I could see it being a hate crime but also we’ve seen some really awful cases where these things happened that had nothing to do with this for motive. The most basic is just being that they are really really horrific individuals.

Hopefully either direction they can pin it down concretely and treat it appropriately
 
From link, rbbm. the horror!
''Arzuaga is also facing a first-degree coercion charge. It was alleged she forced two children — seven and 12 years old — to engage in this conduct.''

''Investigators confirmed he was subjected to violence starting around January 1, 2025, until he was killed on February 2, 2025. The DA’s Office said Nordquist was physically and sexually assaulted, denied proper nutrition and hydration, and physically restrained him, among other allegations. His body was found wrapped in a bag in a field in Yates County.''
by: George Gandy Mar 5, 2025
 
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From link, rbbm. the horror!
''Arzuaga is also facing a first-degree coercion charge. It was alleged she forced two children — seven and 12 years old — to engage in this conduct.''

''Investigators confirmed he was subjected to violence starting around January 1, 2025, until he was killed on February 2, 2025. The DA’s Office said Nordquist was physically and sexually assaulted, denied proper nutrition and hydration, and physically restrained him, among other allegations. His body was found wrapped in a bag in a field in Yates County.''
by: George Gandy Mar 5, 2025
Omg this is beyond. It’s all bad enough but to have children assaulting?!?
 
This case is near to me both geographically and emotionally. I have several non-binary and trans male friends, including one trans male friend who specifically moved to the Rochester region because of how trans-friendly it allegedly is. I would love to hear the rationale behind not treating this as a hate crime. No matter what, this is a level of depravity that is beyond comprehension and the fact that it is so close to home makes it that much more disturbing. I cannot get this case out of my mind for even a second. I physically feel it in my flesh and my bones. It is just so truly and utterly horrible. Every trickle of news makes it even more upsetting and bewildering.
 
It just gets worse. And worse. rbbm
''The torment inflicted by the seven people accused in the kidnapping, described in an 11-count indictment filed in Ontario County court, included hitting, kicking, punching, inserting an object into Nordquist’s anus, starvation, forced consumption of feces, urine and tobacco juice, pouring of bleach on him and duct taping him. The indictment also alleges the forced participation of young children in the assault and torture.

The brutality and depravity of the crime — allegedly inflicted on the Black transgender man from Jan. 1 to Feb. 2 — has drawn national attention, sparked local demonstrations by LGBTQ rights advocates and raised the question from activists and his family: How could such a terrible thing happen without anyone notifying authorities?''

''The indictment is “just a portion” of Nordquist's ordeal, Ontario County Assistant District Attorney Kelly Wolford said at a news conference, where she grew visibly upset as she discussed the charges. “It’s just what we know now,” Wolford said.''
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"They physically restrained him. They forced him to obey their commands, treating him like a dog," Wolford said.
Arzuaga, who was described as Nordquist's online girlfriend, is charged with forcing a 7-year-old child and 12-year-old child to engage in torture. The defendants were also charged with endangering children.
"We have a seven-year-old and a 12-year-old who are also victims," Wolford said. "They may have been forced to participate, but their lives are forever changed by what they saw and endured there."

"This case is bigger than a hate crime. A hate crime would make this case about Sam's gender or about Sam's race and it's so much bigger," Wolford said. "Sam deserves to have this story told in its entirety."
 
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I don't know how much more detail I can take. Every new bit of information that trickles out just wounds my soul. How could anyone, much less SEVEN people, do these things to another human? Maybe I shouldn't even say "another human." That implies the perpetrators themselves were human...
 
Arzuaga, who was described as Nordquist's online girlfriend, is charged with forcing a 7-year-old child and 12-year-old child to engage in torture. The defendants were also charged with endangering children.

"We have a seven-year-old and a 12-year-old who are also victims," Wolford said. "They may have been forced to participate, but their lives are forever changed by what they saw and endured there."
Investigators say two children were forced to torture transgender man Sam Nordquist

I thought it was bad already but this. This just.

No words.
 
There aren't words to describe this crime. Truly one of the most depraved things I've ever read about on this forum.

I don't know that the American justice system is set up for those children, also victims, to get the years of therapy they will require, but I hope beyond hope that they get what they need.
 
I don't know what can/will be done for those children. I can't imagine the life they had had up to the point of this crime, being raised and surrounded by such horrible people. And now, to have been pulled into this crime and to have been subjected to what they have been, I just despair at the thought that it is even possible for them to become whole and functioning members of society. Mental health services in the US are incredibly lacking and the type of specialized care these children would need to have any hope of recovery and rehabilitation is probably far beyond the socio-economic means they will end up in, assuming they end up with family members or in the foster care system.
 
Mar 7, 2025
#13WHAM #ABCLOCAL13 #Rochester
Many viewers have wondered why hate crime charges aren't being filed for the death of Sam Nordquist, a transgender man who authorities said was tortured and murdered in Ontario County."There's no benefit to it," a local attorney said.
Mar 6, 2025
When the first arrests started to be made in the case involving Sam Nordquist, a friend of Sam's started a petition demanding the toughest penalties.
Mar 6, 2025 #crime #samnordquist #murder
New disturbing details have been revealed in the death of Sam Nordquist, a 24-year-old transgender man from Minnesota who was held captive, tortured and murdered in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York. Seven people have been charged in the sickening crime, as police continue to investigate what happened and whether it was a hate crime.
 

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