Officer shows 'great restraint' NOT shooting charging homicide suspect

[Tawny]

I know he is a Marine and we have no idea how he would behave

Right. The same goes for people speculating about how his fellow officers feel about him now. Or those speculating about how dangerous he would be to others in the future as a partner. Or how he may react in a different situation.

 

[SStarr33]

Right. The same goes for people speculating about how his fellow officers feel about him now. Or those speculating about how dangerous he would be to others in the future as a partner. Or how he may react in a different situation.

I was referring to the comments from LE forums. They were giving their opinion and I passed it along here.

 

[Tawny]

I was referring to the comments from LE forums. They were giving their opinion and I passed it along here.

Ok. Well. As a former military member, I was passing along my opinion on how I believe the situation may have differed had he been the back up to a buddy being threatened.

 

[mysteriew]

Reading back through my posts I noticed that I may have given a wrong impression. I am proud and thankful for this officers actions and the fact that he was able to keep the suspect under control with no loss of life.

I am also proud of the fact that once he was in cuffs there doesn't appear to be force used against him. Always a concern in tense, dangerous high adrenaline situations.

My concern is that IMO he did endanger himself and others in order to do so. My concern is also that he may have felt pressure to endanger himself rather than to shoot the suspect.

And my concern is that this is being held up as a standard that all other officers are supposed to use with all other suspects.

It worked this time, with this officer, with this suspect. But I do believe there was a lot of luck involved. And I do believe it was an unusual situation and probably would not work out so well again.

 

[CuriousGuy]

I think you may have nailed it.

That's the ticket. Label those that disagree with your point of view insensitive, heartless, racist, bigot, blah blah blah. Many have articulated very well why they feel this officer is very lucky to be alive. As per usual it devolves into the tried and true tactic of silencing dissent with implied charges of bigotry.

It's why I try an stay out of these threads for the most part. I will now go hit myself in the head with a hammer for having read this one.

 

[EllieBee]

That's the ticket. Label those that disagree with your point of view insensitive, heartless, racist, bigot, blah blah blah. Many have articulated very well why they feel this officer is very lucky to be alive. As per usual it devolves into the tried and true tactic of silencing dissent with implied charges of bigotry.

It's why I try an stay out of these threads for the most part. I will now go hit myself in the head with a hammer for having read this one.

I think you quoted my post by accident. I was agreeing with another member's post.

I also never said anyone was wrong for disagreeing with me. I simply stated that IMO this officer acted appropriately and doesn't deserve to get ripped on.

 

[CuriousGuy]

I think you quoted my post by accident. I was agreeing with another member's post.

I also never said anyone was wrong for disagreeing with me. I simply stated that IMO this officer acted appropriately and doesn't deserve to get ripped on.

I quoted a post where you appeared to agree with another posters assertion that many on this thread prefer all criminals be "blown away". I apologize if that's not what you were agreeing with.

 

[shadowraiths]

I can only speak for myself. I am definitely not trying to bash Officer Kidder for his choice. I am thrilled that he is alive. My opinion regarding his choice is purely due to the fact that he could have been killed. Why? Here is an old (1998) but imho, relevant example of "exercising restraint" that did not go well for the officer. (Kyle Dinkheller Murder). Kyle's killer was executed in January of this year. The video of Kyle's murder is absolutely horrendous to view but also a testament to the type danger LEOs face when executing a "simple" traffic stop. How much more danger when confronting an individual who allegedly shot and killed two people? Orders of magnitude, I would say.

 

[katydid23]

I think he should be training other officers. Attempt to save the life first, shoot only when you have to.

Yep, it's a HUUUUUUGE risk. That's the nature of the job. JMO.

I disagree. it is NOT the 'nature' of the job to put a murder suspects life before your own safety. And cops should never be trained that way. And I suspect he was reamed out by his superiors and the video was played back where he fell backwards, and was within feet of being jumped on and possibly killed.

Saving the life of someone who is trying to kill you is never going to be the top priority. Nor should it be.

 

[katydid23]

Go read some LE forums. 99% are horrified by his decision and do not want him as a partner.

Judging by my son's reaction and that of his 2 friends that I spoke with, I agree. They said he totally broke protocol when he allowed the charging perp to get so very close to him in such a threatening manner. And falling backwards could have been a life ending moment. They thought he was painfully negligent.

 

[katydid23]

That's tragic.

BTW, he is a Marine. I'm "99%" sure actions would have been different had he been back up and his buddy's life had been the one threatened by a charging suspect.

So he would have shot to save his buddy but not to save himself?

 

[mysteriew]

Lol CNN finally said it. "People" are saying he didn't shoot because the suspect was white.
Lol I was waiting for it. Just knew it would happen.

 

[KaaBoom]

Lol CNN finally said it. "People" are saying he didn't shoot because the suspect was white.
Lol I was waiting for it. Just knew it would happen.

What is funny about that?

 

[mysteriew]

What is funny about that?

What is funny about it is that it really isn't funny. Just expected.

 

[KaaBoom]

What is funny about it is that it really isn't funny. Just expected.

Why shouldn't it be expected? It's their job to point things like that out.

 

[mysteriew]

Because I have been suspecting that the race issue is being inserted sometimes, when it really is not so much the issue. The race question comes up here, but there isn't even a difference in race.

 

[Elley Mae]

Why shouldn't it be expected? It's their job to point things like that out.

It's cnn's job to point out what the likes of someone like me would say? No wonder their ratings are low. jmo

 

[katydid23]

Why shouldn't it be expected? It's their job to point things like that out.

It's their job to race bait and be racially divisive?

 

[jjenny]

I don't see this as becoming a new standard. Everybody has said this officer was well within his rights to use lethal force. Nobody has questioned that. He made a judgement call and it turned out to be a good decision. And by the way it wasn't MSM that said he showed great restraint. It was his chief who said that and also called it a mature decision.

Because back up arrived the same exact moment officer fell on his behind. Which he had no way of knowing. That perp could have jumped on top of him while he was on his back.

 

[jjenny]

Judging by my son's reaction and that of his 2 friends that I spoke with, I agree. They said he totally broke protocol when he allowed the charging perp to get so very close to him in such a threatening manner. And falling backwards could have been a life ending moment. They thought he was painfully negligent.

I have to agree. Show me a police protocol that says when perp is advancing and not following commands, the officer has to walk backward.
Then we can sing him praises.
When he fell on his back, if back up didn't arrive at the same exact moment, it could have ended very badly for him and for his back up.