OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in shallow grave, Carlisle, 7 May 2017 #2

[MyBelle]

When I was 17 and in high school, I was accused of a crime that I didn’t do. A kid that I barely knew was arrested for drugs at the football game, assaulted an officer in the process and then told LE that I had sold the drugs to him. I barely even knew the kid and I didn’t do hard drugs.

Two detectives came to my school, pulled me from class, sat me down in the principals office and questioned me for well over an hour trying to get me to admit to it. I told them “No way! I didn’t do it. Give me a lie detector, whatever”, there was no way in hell I would ever admit to doing something, even a “little bit”, that I knew that I didn’t do. This was way back in 1974. I was never questioned again about it and my parents were never notified of the incident.

Reid Technique or not, I just can’t understand how someone could admit to doing something if they knew in their heart that they truly didn’t do it?

JMO

It has happened too frequently. I really question why police are allowed to lie during an interrogation and why they are allowed to interrogate for hours.

This psychologist explains why people confess to crimes they didn’t commit

 

[abeaman02]

I know I will probably anger a lot of people and I cannot for sure say whether she is guilty or innocent but I do believe her confession on the 20th of July was coerced. I believe that during that interview she was very frightened and the detectives used that to at first show her sympathy and then pounce. If you listen to the interview they told her she would not get in trouble if she confessed. I also feel they fed her key words to get her to say what they wanted her to and once she did they backed off on the sympathy.
I also believe that yes she was vain and cared about herself...but she was brought up by a mother who expected her to be thin and beautiful and would not expect anything less from her and when she realized she was going to disappoint her mother she was very scared and already extremely insecure. Also do we know for sure she knew she was pregnant before seeing her OB/GYN at the end of April? Does this make her innocent? Absolutely not, but when I listened to what was presented today by Doctor White Julie Grant (@JulieCourtTV) | Twitter. It is hard to say whether baby Annabelle was alive or stillborn. I can't imagine what it was like for her if she did not have the support system she needed how it would affect her in this situation. Again I am not saying she is innocent but it does make me wonder how much is coercion.
Before the trial I was 100% convinced of her guilt but now I am not sure. MOO

 

[BeckyF]

I know I will probably anger a lot of people and I cannot for sure say whether she is guilty or innocent but I do believe her confession on the 20th of July was coerced. I believe that during that interview she was very frightened and the detectives used that to at first show her sympathy and then pounce. If you listen to the interview they told her she would not get in trouble if she confessed. I also feel they fed her key words to get her to say what they wanted her to and once she did they backed off on the sympathy.
I also believe that yes she was vain and cared about herself...but she was brought up by a mother who expected her to be thin and beautiful and would not expect anything less from her and when she realized she was going to disappoint her mother she was very scared and already extremely insecure. Also do we know for sure she knew she was pregnant before seeing her OB/GYN at the end of April? Does this make her innocent? Absolutely not, but when I listened to what was presented today by Doctor White Julie Grant (@JulieCourtTV) | Twitter. It is hard to say whether baby Annabelle was alive or stillborn. I can't imagine what it was like for her if she did not have the support system she needed how it would affect her in this situation. Again I am not saying she is innocent but it does make me wonder how much is coercion.
Before the trial I was 100% convinced of her guilt but now I am not sure. MOO

I agree with everything you've stated. Thank You.

 

[MyBelle]

It happens all the time with juveniles, those with intellectual disabilities, many... They want to please. As an attorney I see it all the time. As a juvenile I also was in your position only it was an interrogation at my high school over graffiti which I didn't know a thing about but my best friend did it. My parents were not called. My gymnastics coach was there, laughing at the inquisition. Yes. It happens every day. ALWAYS ask for an attorney even if innocent and know nothing. Enough reasonable doubt here for several of the charges, especially aggravated murder and involuntary manslaughter.

ITA. Especially BSR, who clearly was trying to tell cops what they wanted to hear. She just wasn't sure what they wanted to hear.

JMO

 

[osu]

A couple of photos of BSR in this article that I hadn’t seen before. One while on vacation in Destin about 6 weeks before she delivered.

Skylar Richardson's huge baby bump TWO DAYS before she gave birth

 

[fred&edna]

I agree with everything you've stated. Thank You.

Me too!

 

[fred&edna]

The legal aspects always perplex me... I'm still surprised the accusation AND the reported admission of burning the baby was allowed to move forward.

 

[osu]

Day 6: Here's a full recap from the Brooke Skylar Richardson trial, including her father's testimony.
'Daddy's little girl': Father defends Brooke Skylar Richardson in tearful testimony

Keith BieryGolick on Twitter

 

[squareandrabbet]

A couple of photos of BSR in this article that I hadn’t seen before. One while on vacation in Destin about 6 weeks before she delivered.

Skylar Richardson's huge baby bump TWO DAYS before she gave birth

From the above link (BBM):

At the end of his testimony, Scott stifled tears as he told the jury: 'She would never hurt another living being let alone a baby.'

He also said he was never aware that his wife, Kim, had been encouraging her to lose weight and that the biggest regret of his life was not having an attorney present when Skylar made the 'confession' that she had set fire to the baby, a claim he and the defense says was a lie and was coerced.

If the bolded is true, it strikes me as rather bombshelly (a word of my own coinage), and could certainly explain why Kim hasn't been asked to testify. Also provides fodder for those who feel that Dad seemed overall detached from the family dynamic.

It is pretty extraordinary, however, that Kim then ran around giving the interviews she gave, like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. "Oh, it broke my heart to have my daughter worried about the calories in toothpaste."

 

[gitana1]

As I read, and re-read all these texts between the two, I'm wondering. Aren't these conversations that normally would be face-to-face between a mother and a daughter?

This just gets me as to why these were all done In text versus face-to-face.

And it also makes me wonder, what was face-to-face in addition to all of this if anything.

That is what I want to know. But we never will.

Interesting question.

 

[gitana1]

Here's what I don't understand... I can understand being talked into any of those things, if I was dazed from the exertions of giving birth, etc., and honestly couldn't remember 100% of what I did.

What I can't understand being "talked into", is "lighting the baby on fire". You think that'd be pretty memorable; no? Not exactly the kind of thing you'd have to think much about? I mean, fire hurts (former smoker here); and you know it can do damage; and it's super bright and memorable in the bargain. If she didn't try to cremate the baby at any point, why'd she say so to police?

I don't know. To play Devil's Advocate people do falsely confess to crimes. Even adults. The case of Riley Fox is one I will never forget.

After hours of questioning her dad confessed to sodomizing and drowning his beloved daughter. He was charged with murder and they sought the death penalty. But he was not the culprit.
The Nightmare: A Look at the Riley Fox Case

 

[Ksprincess2]

I agree. IMO that question was asked and his answer rehearsed for that very reason.

If I were asked my biggest regret, it would be that my daughter didn't feel like she could come to me for help. JMO MOO

Could not agree more! Doesn't he realize if she had felt able to tell him and get his help when she found out she was pregnant there wouldn't have been any need for an attorney because she wouldn't have been interviewed by the police.

 

[gitana1]

How do you know her confession wasn't coerced?
Sometimes even police officers do something wrong.

It was recorded. I think the last link I gave shows a clear example of coercion (interrogating for hours, suspect had no sleep, not letting him leave or genq lawyer or talk to his dad when he asked, screaming in his face, yelling that he's guilty, making him watch as they filled out an arrest warrant, banging handcuffs on the table, etc.) and I don't believe Skylar's interrogation was anything close to that.

 

[Seattle1]

As I read, and re-read all these texts between the two, I'm wondering. Aren't these conversations that normally would be face-to-face between a mother and a daughter?

This just gets me as to why these were all done In text versus face-to-face.

And it also makes me wonder, what was face-to-face in addition to all of this if anything.

That is what I want to know. But we never will.

There was one time I recall that mom did not want to text with BSR. When she got the email from the clinic with the comment "patient pregnant," she texted BSR to call her immediately. BSR responded that she just arrived at school and couldn't call. And that really set mom off!

 

[IceIce9]

I don't know. To play Devil's Advocate people do falsely confess to crimes. Even adults. The case of Riley Fox is one I will never forget.

After hours of questioning her dad confessed to sodomizing and drowning his beloved daughter. He was charged with murder and they sought the death penalty. But he was not the culprit.
The Nightmare: A Look at the Riley Fox Case

I will never forget this either. I lived in the Wilmington area at the time this happened. Half the town thought he was guilty, even after being released some still thought he did it. Until the time the actual murderer was caught in around 2010 I think.

The parents did end up winnings 15 million dollar lawsuit but the amount was reduced and I don’t know if they ever actually collected anything. They had another child, a little girl, a few years later.

Sadly the couple did end up getting divorced.

 

[Ksprincess2]

I wonder if Skylar says the baby was white because it was covered in vernix and she didn't know what it was?

To be blunt stillborn babies look dead, it's obvious that they are dead immediately based on their coloring no matter how short of a time they had been dead in utero. They are discolored especially around their mouth and eyes. They are typically photographed in black and white for that reason.

Here's a link about the appearance of stillborn babies that has examples of what to expect in the appearance of a stillborn baby:
Redirect Notice

 

[kodi]

She says "a little bit" a lot.

By stating “a little bit”, I feel like she’s keeping this open to interpretation, trying to appease everyone and still give some kind of an answer. She’s vague but “cooperating.”

JMO

 

[Mariposa]

From the above link (BBM):

It is pretty extraordinary, however, that Kim then ran around giving the interviews she gave, like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. "Oh, it broke my heart to have my daughter worried about the calories in toothpaste."

The word 'gaslighting' comes to mind... Feigning her concern for her daughter's health.
Meanwhile the texts come out with her practically foaming at the mouth making sure her daughter slams that Dulcolax, starves herself down and 'bosses it up' to ...look a very specific way in clothes? To 'feel good' about herself because clearly the edict in Kim's House is looking a certain way is the only worth there is.
Such a sick dynamic.

 

[ilovematt]

The baby could have died because of neglect both before and after birth. Prenatal care usually spans the length of the pregnancy or at least most of it. If your first visit to a doctor is 11 days before you give birth at home on your own, a healthy fetus or baby would be a miracle. Not bleeding to death while giving birth or getting an infection is even more surprising. She didn't call out for help when she might have suspected she was in labor. She didn't do things to ensure a safe delivery for both her and the baby. Could those actions have led to the baby's death or been a factor? Possibly. I don't think she intentionally killed her baby. I think a stillbirth is very possible. If it wasn't complications during labor, or fetal issues, delivering a baby into a toilet has risks. Had she had prenatal care maybe the outcome would have been different but that is hard to prove.

Women have had perfectly healthy babies long before medical doctors and pre-natal vitamins. A woman having healthy baby without seeing a doctor until 11 days before birth is not a miracle. That’s silly.

To this day many women across the world never see one doctor in their entire lives much less to have a little one, they also are often void of nutrition their entire lives yet the population flourishes. I’m not advocating poor nutrition or boycotting the resources we as pregnant westerners have easy access too, but to say it’s a glorious miracle a baby can be born healthy without our creature comforts is a not accurate.

 

[155etta]

Women have had perfectly healthy babies long before medical doctors and pre-natal vitamins. A woman having healthy baby without seeing a doctor until 11 days before birth is not a miracle. That’s silly.

To this day many women across the world never see one doctor in their entire lives much less to have a little one, they also are often void of nutrition their entire lives yet the population flourishes. I’m not advocating poor nutrition or boycotting the resources we as pregnant westerners have easy access too, but to say it’s a glorious miracle a baby can be born healthy without our creature comforts is a not accurate.

Good point.