OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in shallow grave, Carlisle, 7 May 2017 #2

[Hope4More]

I wonder if any of the jurors know what Kim looks like. Explaining to the jury that she had been there every day, but that she hadn't been allowed in the courtroom, doesn't explain why she's not there today to support either her daughter or her husband.

 

[IceIce9]

Skylar's whole defense is she gave birth to a stillborn baby.

By her own words, we know that not to be true.

what the jury decides, who knows but I believe that there is evidence to find her guilty on all the charges she is charged with except charge number 4. jmo

Juries are made up of imperfect humans. Who knows what the jury will decide. You could have a member of the jury who is sympathetic towards her due her unhealthy family environment, or perhaps a juror who has family members who have struggled with eating disorders. Or someone who grew up with a mother like Skylar’s and sympathize.

OTOH my mom was always after me about my weight, was embarrassed by my big feet (size 7) etc. I HATED when she took me to buy shoes, she always would announce to the shoe salesman and anyone else within earshot, “I don’t know WHERE she gets her big feet. MY feet are size 5.” And this from the time I was 10 years old. When we went shopping for clothes and the salesperson would inquire what size we were looking for, mom would sigh and say “Size 8, can you believe it?? She certainly isn’t petite like me!”

Even so, I wouldn’t be cutting her any slack because that isn’t an excuse for killing your baby. Many, many of us have had a dysfunctional childhood and we still know right from wrong.

You could have a juror or two with a close friend or family member who desperately want to conceive a child.

There have been some high profile cases in Cincinnati in the past several years where jurors have come back with surprising verdicts. Not just IMO but also professionals also. You just never know what jurors will do.

 

[Boodles]

I am must be horrible, I just hate calling her Annabelle. I believe that name was only given to her after the fact that she got caught. Not once, in the first interview , did she say Annabelle. I just do not want to give Skylar or her defense team the satisfaction. That baby is being held by Jesus now.

ITA...she referred to the baby as “it” which I find upsetting. And burying the baby, whether born alive or stillborn, naked, not even wrapped in a cloth of any sort, just adds to the coldness of this case and her behavior. It depicts not an ounce of concern or warmth toward this child. It makes me sick.

 

[Boodles]

I wonder if any of the jurors know what Kim looks like. Explaining to the jury that she had been there every day, but that she hadn't been allowed in the courtroom, doesn't explain why she's not there today to support either her daughter or her husband.

She could still be called.

 

[kim.kitchenstupman]

ITA...she referred to the baby as “it” which I find upsetting. And burying the baby, whether born alive or stillborn, naked, not even wrapped in a cloth of any sort, just adds to the coldness of this case and her behavior. It depicts not an ounce of concern or warmth toward this child. It makes me sick.

I could not agree more!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Based on several MSM reports today referring to BS as 'former' or 'her boyfriend during time she delivered baby,' it doesn't appear rumors likely. And media is all over this case.

I hope he's moved on -- he testified he's a sophomore at Miami Univ. Also, if you saw BSR's zombie look when BR was in the court room -- I think it said more than words.

Yes, mitigation mitigation throughout the case in Chief.

 

[Tillicum]

I'm really curious what the male jurors thoughts are. Also if any jurors have a close friend or loved one who suffered the stillbirth of a child.

 

[Hope4More]

ITA...she referred to the baby as “it” which I find upsetting. And burying the baby, whether born alive or stillborn, naked, not even wrapped in a cloth of any sort, just adds to the coldness of this case and her behavior. It depicts not an ounce of concern or warmth toward this child. It makes me sick.

It would have been easier, quicker, and more secretive for Skylar to have put her baby in a trashbag and to have thrown her away in a neighbor's trashcan or a neighborhood dumpster. That's what she would have done, imo, if she had no feelings for her baby and had felt no guilt about her death.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Honestly, I don't think that second interview is very compelling for the prosecution. She parrots back what the investigators are asking her. It may be the truth - again, I believe the baby was born alive - but I don't think that's going to go very far with the jury as evidence. This is all just MOO and speculation about what the jury will do - not necessarily what I believe actually happened.

Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are going to have the person who is a suspect admit to something that they feel will be acceptable. And then they have that to stand on and go from there. They did the same with Chris Watts. And as was with Chris Watts they brought parent in for the coup de gras

 

[zea mays]

Based on several MSM reports today referring to BS as 'former' or 'her boyfriend during time she delivered baby,' it doesn't appear rumors likely. And media is all over this case.

I hope he's moved on -- he testified he's a sophomore at Miami Univ. Also, if you saw BSR's zombie look when BR was in the court room -- I think it said more than words.

Oh, I hope he's moved on too. It's not a great wagon to hitch yourself to, that's for sure!

Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are going to have the person who is a suspect admit to something that they feel will be acceptable. And then they have that to stand on and go from there. They did the same with Chris Watts. And as was with Chris Watts they brought parent in for the coup de gras

I understand that - I've watched a lot of interrogations and seen the technique before. But, I assume that most of the jury isn't true crime obsessed like me. I'm going on how I think the jury will feel about it - and I think they won't like it or give it much credence.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

There’s several local news live-streams on Facebook and on their news websites. There’s WHIO and FOX 19 Cincinnati. Also the Law & Crime website is streaming live in real-time.

Here’s the link to the Law & Crime livestream:

Watch Live: Skylar Richardson Allegedly Killed Newborn Daughter Shortly After Prom

Law and crime stream worked well without buffering, thank you! I do prefer YouTube so I can open it in multiple channels and still surf the net on my phone, but I don't see any YouTube live feeds.

 

[Spellbound]

Well, i am thinking bathing dogs and giving birth to a baby that is now dead and buried in the backyard has a little more significance for her.

I doubt the amount of time made a difference then. she was working on adrenaline, likely, and not watching a clock.

are you able to recall how long you were in labor or how much time you spent in a bathroom during labor and birth? (assuming you have given birth, I definitely do not know your experience ) I sure don’t. if you can, you have a much better memory than I ever have or will.

 

[kim.kitchenstupman]

It would have been easier, quicker, and more secretive for Skylar to have put her baby in a trashbag and to have thrown her away in a neighbor's trashcan or a neighborhood dumpster. That's what she would have done, imo, if she had no feelings for her baby and had felt no guilt about her death.

I. cant.even.

 

[zea mays]

I doubt the amount of time made a difference then. she was working on adrenaline, likely, and not watching a clock.

are you able to recall how long you were in labor or how much time you spent in a bathroom during labor and birth? (assuming you have given birth, I definitely do not know your experience ) I sure don’t. if you can, you have a much better memory than I ever have or will.

It's funny you ask that question. This made me think about my own labor and delivery (very long & unmedicated- 48+ hours and pushing for 4.5 hours). I kept asking my midwife "how much longer do you think this will be" towards the end. She always answered "about a half hour" and I kept thinking "well, I can do anything for a half hour". That went on for about 3 hours or so? So, I don't think women in labor are excellent historians about time, LOL!

 

[kim.kitchenstupman]

I doubt the amount of time made a difference then. she was working on adrenaline, likely, and not watching a clock.

are you able to recall how long you were in labor or how much time you spent in a bathroom during labor and birth? (assuming you have given birth, I definitely do not know your experience ) I sure don’t. if you can, you have a much better memory than I ever have or will.

No, but I did not kill my baby or hide in dirt in the backyard.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I doubt the amount of time made a difference then. she was working on adrenaline, likely, and not watching a clock.

are you able to recall how long you were in labor or how much time you spent in a bathroom during labor and birth? (assuming you have given birth, I definitely do not know your experience ) I sure don’t. if you can, you have a much better memory than I ever have or will.

They have the time of her texting her boyfriend the night of the birth, and then her saying to the boyfriend later in a text that she was up until 5:30 the night she gave birth

 

[Tillicum]

They're back.

 

[Boodles]

How can this guy possibly say that yes, she gave birth to a stillborn baby, alone, in the bathroom at 3am? That’s a lot of specificity from just reviewing reports. Sorry, I didn’t catch his name. She may or may not have, but how can he know?

ETA: He’s elaborating now about the data behind his conclusion. Still...

Edited again: judge just told jury, over defense’s objection, that this testimony is opinion, not fact as to what actually occurred.

 

[Boodles]

It would have been easier, quicker, and more secretive for Skylar to have put her baby in a trashbag and to have thrown her away in a neighbor's trashcan or a neighborhood dumpster. That's what she would have done, imo, if she had no feelings for her baby and had felt no guilt about her death.

That would also be cold. But we’ve buried dogs wrapped in a sheet, fgs. JMO.

 

[stmarysmead]

As far as Skylar’s “ love” for her baby, we lost an old dog who required much care about a year ago.

There was no way, loving and losing that dog, that I would have been texting, and high-fiving and celebrating the fact that we wouldn’t have to get up several times a night to let him out.

Our lives hadn’t changed for the better in our opinion. But Skylar was sure whooping it up that her life was FAB again.