Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018

[tb24oh]

Where in the WDTN article does it mention the $4K?

 

[Jethro4WS]

I had thought the same thing about the $4000, I thought William had lied about the money and then stated he was putting it back, which brought up questions why replace it if going through divorce.
Steelslady mentioned above on who drove her SUV to the parking lot to ditch it,
I know it’s a far stretch , would there be finger prints on the steering wheel , door handle inside and out.
I frequent the Kroger parking lot where the suv was found, and sit and look at escape routes, the only one I see is the suspect exited and went east to that building behind the high rise , not exactly sure what business is there, or the suspect made it to the next street east of Kroger where they were picked up
There has to be cameras on some of those homes, that could catch something

The building immediately East of the where Cheryl's SUV was parked is a Jehovah's Witnesses church. It looks like there is a camera on the rear corner of that building that can be seen from Google Street View. There may be other cameras there. However, I strongly suspect that law enforcement has gone through that area and approached any business or residence with a visible camera to see if there is any footage. Looking at the apartment building that is next to the parking lot and along Burkhardt it doesn't appear that there are exterior cameras.

 

[tooltimetim]

I don’t think the police are asking the family to be quiet about this, I think the police have nothing, plus look at their police FB page, they are asking for help on a few cases including Cheryl’s
The family is quiet because they are protecting someone, out of fear or weirdness

 

[tb24oh]

According to Cheryl's family, there is ONE person of interest in this case. Police are only focused on that one person, the husband. Nothing else has panned out regarding any other avenues. I do wish that police had posted pictures of his vehicle and asked for information and sightings in the days following the disappearance. I think that they really thought they would find physical evidence in the home showing a murder and it was going to be open and shut. Without a tip telling them where to look for her body, they are stuck. They missed the window for information. And as the police chief said this week, without knowing where to search, a random search is pointless.

I grew up in Riverside and was friends with Cheryl. When I was home visiting in October, I thought a lot about her and where she could be. As we drove through various parts of town, I was shocked. There are so so so many places to dump a body. So much brush, woods, lakes, fields, a lyme pit, rivers, and this is all within a 2-3 mile radius! Go out 10 miles and it's so difficult to believe she will be found. 20 miles and it's seemingly impossible. Without a confession or someone just stumbling upon her body, I am not sure it will ever happen and it's damn sad.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[tooltimetim]

Foe example, I did some research if he drove her SUV that morning to Kroger to ditch the crime lab can tell how fresh and how old the prints were on the steering wheel or doors, any older would be worn, dirty or unreadable,
Does anyone know since the above texts the police are fixed on one person, I agree with tb24oh, that if the police released photos of his vehicle somebody might have seen it,
Reason I ask, did he stop at a dumpster that fateful morning between their home and Costco to dispose of her
Next question she stopped home that morning how did he remove her from the home without neighbors seeing, did he use a large suitcase, a rug, etc....
I realize the police spent a lot of time at their home, is it seemingly possible a secret hole in their home undetectable to the police, a crawl space in a cellar wall hidden very well, or a sump pump hole that the pump is a rue and she’s underneath, she’s hidden in plain site anything outside home would take two people plus the danger of being seen.

Sorry about last night, this case is so puzzling, and now we are about 82 days missing starting a new year, and no Cheryl, frustrating

 

[wyome]

According to Cheryl's family, there is ONE person of interest in this case. Police are only focused on that one person, the husband. Nothing else has panned out regarding any other avenues. I do wish that police had posted pictures of his vehicle and asked for information and sightings in the days following the disappearance. I think that they really thought they would find physical evidence in the home showing a murder and it was going to be open and shut. Without a tip telling them where to look for her body, they are stuck. They missed the window for information. And as the police chief said this week, without knowing where to search, a random search is pointless.

I grew up in Riverside and was friends with Cheryl. When I was home visiting in October, I thought a lot about her and where she could be. As we drove through various parts of town, I was shocked. There are so so so many places to dump a body. So much brush, woods, lakes, fields, a lyme pit, rivers, and this is all within a 2-3 mile radius! Go out 10 miles and it's so difficult to believe she will be found. 20 miles and it's seemingly impossible. Without a confession or someone just stumbling upon her body, I am not sure it will ever happen and it's damn sad.

Really appreciate your perspective in all of this. I hope this doesn't turn into a Susan Powell thing where she's never found and there's not enough evidence to charge him.

This has got to be really hard on the younger daughter they share.

I wonder if they brought cadavar dogs with them when they searched the property? It's pretty likely he killed her when she returned home from taking their daughter to school. Whatever they have, clearly, it's not enough and that's got to be frustrating.

Do you know if the girlfriend is sticking by Bill and/or still hanging around/living at the house?

 

[tooltimetim]

Wyome, thanks for looking at this perspective, I still think Cheryl is hidden in plain sight, unless he was witnessed carrying out a large suitcase, or something that could hold her she’s still on the property
Does their home have a car port or garage, is there a pool in backyard, trying to determine if he could load her body in his vehicle without anyone seeing,
Let’s say Cheryl was killed in their home, I take it the police never found blood or fluids in the home, so she probably was choked to death.
As per previous posts mentioning him as possible suspect, he must feel pretty cocky almost 82 days since she disappeared, that the police seem to have nothing, I still think they should invite him down and be a guest for 24-96 hours, they need to rattle his cushy world , I think this is the only way to advance this case, I don’t want Cheryl’s case to turn into a cold case that never gets solved.
If the police did not use dogs to search, I think they should , search every square inch of the home and property, i don’t think he would have taken the chance to move her out of fear of being under surveillance.
Does anyone know if the girlfriend is still part of his life, if so did she take up residence in Cheryl’s home, did they celebrate Christmas , thanksgiving, and today with the girlfriend.

 

[Steelslady]

I don't believe she was killed at home. However, if a scenario of her being murdered happened, IN MY OPINION ONLY, I feel in my heart someone had help.

First- she came home, after dropping her daughter off at school. Wasn't it a little while later, her car was parked at the parking lot where it was found later? To me, that makes the scenario of her being murdered by one person hard to do. No evidence found in the home, from what LE has insinuated. So, we can deduce it happened elsewhere, but in order for one person to have done this alone, they would have needed more time, to get the car to where it was eventually parked and somehow, draw Cheryl or kidnap Cheryl to wherever her body is, if she is deceased.

Was she convinced to go for a ride with someone, maybe a hike together to talk things over or something to that effect, and something occurred in the woods? Are there any hiking trails around there, is there a park near there or in another town that hikers enjoy? It was warm in October up here, so I am imagining that it might have been warm there, too, enough to go for a walk.

Any hunting grounds near that area? Hunting cabins? We know that they both had guns. I wonder if there was any hunting knife missing from the home? Of course, that would be harder to find, especially if no one knew about the knife. I know of hunters that have several of them, so if anyone used one, probably no one would know it was missing or recently used. Guns are registered, so LE would know if one was missing. Hunting knives are not, and if someone had several of them, no one would be the wiser if one was missing.

I don't think that she is far away, but it would be difficult to have harmed her in one spot, while driving a car to another spot, in a short period of time.

 

[tooltimetim]

Steelslady I like your theory, who drove her to Kroger, or was she in another vehicle, you had mentioned knifes, what about blood residue on clothing, who do you think would help him, his girlfriend , friends of his who like guns and knifes.
There are hiking trails all over, one trail goes right past my home, the one trail that really bothers me is the one next to the Huffman damn, that reservoir is very deep , that same area the hiking trail is frequented by wolves, Fox, and bobcats, I have seen the wolves and fox, and I have heard the bobcats , so if Cheryl was left along a trail, the wildlife around here would be a scary thought for her.

 

[Steelslady]

Steelslady I like your theory, who drove her to Kroger, or was she in another vehicle, you had mentioned knifes, what about blood residue on clothing, who do you think would help him, his girlfriend , friends of his who like guns and knifes.
There are hiking trails all over, one trail goes right past my home, the one trail that really bothers me is the one next to the Huffman damn, that reservoir is very deep , that same area the hiking trail is frequented by wolves, Fox, and bobcats, I have seen the wolves and fox, and I have heard the bobcats , so if Cheryl was left along a trail, the wildlife around here would be a scary thought for her.

If you think about it- their neighbor said they saw Cheryl's car in the driveway, after she dropped off her daughter at school. That's too short a period of time, in my opinion, to move her car and harm her in some way, for one person to do alone.

I don't know who did it or if another person is involved, but to me, time wise, it doesn't make sense that this was the work of one person.

There's always hope that she is still alive somewhere, but I can't believe that she would not try to contact any family or friends to let someone know she is ok- most importantly, her elderly Mom and daughters.

 

[tooltimetim]

I thought maybe in the beginning she ran away , but she would definately be in touch with her mom.
One other place she might be ditched, is it possible for someone to open a sewer manhole cover and drop her in .
I also thought take William’s circle of close friends, do any of them have criminal records, if William is who they are concentrating on , he would not have the money to hire this job out, but with the help of some friends maybe so.
I just worry now that since so much time has elapsed, the only way Cheryl will be found is by total accident, a hiker, jogger, dog walker, etc...
Just had another thought , is it possible that she was stashed in a vacant home or building, there’s plenty around her, Linden ave, woodman Dr, which both roads are very close to her home
Did anyone determine if he he still with his girlfriend, if so what type of vehicle does she drive, I was trying to reverfify, I thought I saw it in a post does she live up behind the vacant Kmart store

 

[momrids6]

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What You Need to Know About Ohio's Gun Laws

 

[wyome]

In my opinion she was killed at home (based on what little we know lol).

I think they were both pissed that morning. Cheryl was dreading the a-hole coming home; Bill was hoping she would have packed up and left before he came home. She dropped the daughter off that morning because she missed her dearly and wanted to connect with her and maybe "hear some dirt" about how the vacation went. When she came home, emotions exploded and things got out of hand, he strangled her (cuts on his arm that he blamed on forklift -- her fighting for breath.)

He may have thrown her in his car and disposed of her in one of the numerous isolated/ovengrown areas that tb24oh described, then came back to the house, threw her personals in the car and dropped her car off at the tavern lot so he could claim, "Hey, she left on her own, took some stashed cash and left me."

And I think he did act alone. Because if he was acting in concert, he would have had someone meet him somewhere far more distant to abandon her car.

I suppose she could have been lured to that parking lot around 10:30 that morning, by someone conspiring with Bill to do her harm or kidnap her, but in my mind it would have to be someone that Cheryl trusted or felt obligated to meet (close friend or business associate.) And wouldn't her phone highlight all this "luring" and things would be much more cut and dry? And if she was kidnapped by an associate of Bills, it would have to be from her home, right? The same home where neighbors saw his and her cars that morning. I can't make sense of that.

 

[Tillicum]

Clifton Gorge isn't very far.

 

[tb24oh]

This man is a former Marine and current martial arts and hand-to-hand combat expert. He has taught classes on this! I think they argued and he snapped her neck. They do have a garage. He could have backed his truck up, put her in a tarp (which is something that no one would notice going missing from a garage, unlike a rug from the home). Then drove her car to the parking lot, taking the second entrance instead of the first, which is pretty unusual for a normal occasion of entering the lot, and put the car where he did to avoid the camera. He had knowledge of security cameras, so he likely knew that the motion sensor only picks up within a few feet. And he probably knew that he needed to get her car there before the lunch rush at Clancy's, which opened at 11am because then it's much more likely someone would remember him. It was also pretty much in view from her mom's house so he knew that it was likely the car would be discovered fairly quickly. Someone could have met him there to drive him home or he could have walked back in under 20 mins. Then he had all afternoon to dispose of the body. He could have driven 1-2 hours away even and been back in time to pick up the daughter from school.

 

[Jmoose]

This man is a former Marine and current martial arts and hand-to-hand combat expert. He has taught classes on this! I think they argued and he snapped her neck. They do have a garage. He could have backed his truck up, put her in a tarp (which is something that no one would notice going missing from a garage, unlike a rug from the home). Then drove her car to the parking lot, taking the second entrance instead of the first, which is pretty unusual for a normal occasion of entering the lot, and put the car where he did to avoid the camera. He had knowledge of security cameras, so he likely knew that the motion sensor only picks up within a few feet. And he probably knew that he needed to get her car there before the lunch rush at Clancy's, which opened at 11am because then it's much more likely someone would remember him. It was also pretty much in view from her mom's house so he knew that it was likely the car would be discovered fairly quickly. Someone could have met him there to drive him home or he could have walked back in under 20 mins. Then he had all afternoon to dispose of the body. He could have driven 1-2 hours away even and been back in time to pick up the daughter from school.

I think you may be right...

 

[GraceG]

Ohio is one of the least restrictive states when it comes to buying and owning firearms. With a few exceptions, anyone over 18 (21 for handguns) can buy and own a rifle, shotgun and/or handgun. No permit is required and there is no waiting period. The only gun license required in Ohio is to carry a concealed handgun.Jul 7, 2017

What You Need to Know About Ohio's Gun Laws

True but having lived in Ohio and having an Ohio Concealed Carry Permit, a FBI background check is still required. Federal law requires federally licensed firearms dealers to initiate a background check on the purchaser prior to sale of a firearm. Federal law provides states with the option of serving as a state “point of contact” and conducting their own background checks using state, as well as federal, records and databases, or having the checks performed by the FBI using only the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System (“NICS”) database.

However, Ohio is not a point of contact state for the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. Ohio has no law requiring firearms dealers to initiate background checks prior to transferring a firearm. As a result, in Ohio, firearms dealers MUST initiate the background check required by federal law by contacting the FBI directly.

In this case, I doubt a firearm was used if Cheryl was murdered. I think whatever happened to her happened in the home, and firearm deaths leave a ton of evidence that can't be cleaned up.

 

[tooltimetim]

It was mentioned above as a possible of him dropping her SUV off at Kroger and taking the short walk home, did the police think to look at the local streets he would have to walked down to get home, they should check to see if homes have the RING doorbell cameras, regular cameras, which could prove he was the one who ditched suv,
I figure if they can catch him on camera that fatal morning, walking home that morning from the direction of Kroger, would be enough evidence to arrest him. I can’t picture him walking home from Kroger on a daily basis, so this would be damning
Let’s say they do indict him for her disappearance, I think he is the type of person that would never give up her location
I looked back at a Whio interview, reading our notes and Whio/WDTN articles where he is protecting his daughter, if he did this be a man and come clean for your daughters sake.lets say like mentioned in other notes above that a argument occurred and tempers flared and a accident happened, he needs to come clean, plead emotional distress, and tell the world where Cheryl is, and just maybe he wouldn’t spend the rest of his life in prison

 

[tooltimetim]

After rereading everything, is the husband a POI officially or unofficially.
What about all his weapons, I would have hoped the police took them for safe keeping until this case is solved for the good or bad
The family silience, is deafening , with Cheryl’s case posted on the Riverside Pd FB , they would not tell them to be quiet, my gut is telling me they are quiet and it’s only a guess, they are afraid of him
I also have a odd question since he is into weapons , self defense, etc... does he have friends on police force that have his back
I have odd questions but it seems like this case was bungled from day one, and now we’re in 2019, going no where