OH OH - Harley Dilly, 14, walking to Port Clinton High School, 20 Dec 2019 #2

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BBM:

The reason I'm inclined to believe this bit is true is because there's no real reason to lie about it.

It paints a terribly unflattering picture of his mother, for one thing.

The storyline, "Hey, my kid complained to me that he felt sick that morning, but I told him to haul his butt off to school, regardless, and oh, yeah, I didn't even bother to lay eyes on him before he walked out the door," is generally not the type of narrative a parent wants to invent if they're trying to garner public sympathy.

I do believe HD complained of not feeling well that morning.

JMO.

Or return a missed call from the school if your child had said they didn't feel well that morning. Even if voice mail was full, the school's number probably still showed as a missed call.

 

[zencompass]

Back again to check for updates, wishing with all of my heart to read one that says that Harley is safe.

I believe we all hope for this. There is always hope - even when it's hard to see.

 

[MassGuy]

How are you so confident about this? Because from the sounds of LE, they are confident he is able to come home of his own volition, hence the offering of being personally escorted by the Chief.

Because this isn’t some sophisticated adult; someone with the means to pull something like this off. Everyone is looking for him, and there has yet to be any sign that he is alive.

Law enforcement’s standard posture, is to maintain that they believe a missing child is alive. They do this intentionally, even when they themselves don’t believe it. The public is more engaged when they are looking for a living person.

I believe they are merely covering their bases.

 

[zencompass]

What I don't get is, if Harley was meeting someone, why would he ask to stay home? Especially since it appears his mom would be home. Why wouldn't he just pretend to go to school? Asking to stay home pretty much tells me he didn't have plans to meet up with anyone.

Superb point!

Thanks for this insight, @SuziQ !

 

[zencompass]

From the LivePD segment, the detective stated that the image was of a person whom they believe to be Harley "...crossing the street in front of his house at 6:08 in the morning on December 20th..."

So it has to be from a neighbor's surveillance, most likely the Sober Living house. IMO.

Is there a possibility that the image was not Harley? Just a thought.

 

[Sonic7273]

Superb point!

Thanks for this insight, @SuziQ !

Maybe because he got cold feet about meeting said somebody? Speculation.

 

[RSpecht]

Superb point!

Thanks for this insight, @SuziQ !

Unless he decided to meet the person or go over to a person's house After he couldn't stay home from school?

 

[Janeumayer]

If Harley was feeling sick and wanted to stay home then it makes no sense to me that he went to meet someone. How did he communicate with that person at 6am to go meet him? We know he had no cell phone and LE must have gone through house phone records plus any electronics left over at the house. LE would have already gotten in touch with whomever he would have contacted.

There’s a reason they’re asking for that video footage from the night before.

 

[cobalt sky]

Thank you. So we know for sure he left his house at 6:08 am. He proceeded south, towards the hospital, down the alley that runs between his house and the sober house. He isn't seen on any hospital surveillance?

Unless he told someone to meet him in the alley?

It's a mystery. What could have happened to him in such a short time? He didn't make it to the school which was only a few blocks away so where did he go? It was very cold outside that morning, he wasn't walking around town for hours out in that cold, and even if he was, someone else would have seen him or caught him on surveillance. I have wondered if shortly after leaving his house if he got in someone's car, or maybe even went inside someone's house for some reason. If so, it would likely be someone he knew or was familiar with, not someone he met online, because I imagine LE would have found a trail of communication if that were the case. Another possibility is that he headed for school but decided to go back home for some reason, and took a route which the neighbor's surveillance did not catch him returning to his house. This is all assuming that the 6:08am footage is actually really Harley. Such a frustrating case!

 

[MassGuy]

I'm sorry, but the entire idea of a poll is hellaciously mega-mega-offensive. It's like voting someone off the island.

We’re having a discussion, one that has many different viewpoints. A poll is helpful in figuring out which way members are leaning.

Some people think Harley is alive and well, others think he ran away, or met with some sort of foul play.

No one is rooting for anything other than a happy ending, but it’s important not to conflate what we want to have happened, with what we think did happen.

A poll is not a contest.

 

[cobalt sky]

Is there a possibility that the image was not Harley? Just a thought.

Absolutely, imo! Many of us have questioned this numerous times throughout the thread.

 

[MassGuy]

Absolutely, imo! Many of us have questioned this numerous times throughout the thread.

And the answer to that question has tremendous importance.

For me, it’s the difference between foul play, and Harley willingly running off.

 

[RSpecht]

A friend of mine works for a service company that does maintenance in the off-season for homes around the lake. I was just thinking about all of the tourists who winter their boats and have empty homes - That's a lot of empty homes and boats in the immediate and surrounding areas this time of year.

That's a good thought. If HD knew this or knew of other kids who would explore them...possible search area in my view.

 

[zencompass]

I have wondered if shortly after leaving his house if he got in someone's car, or maybe even went inside someone's house for some reason. If so, it would likely be someone he knew or was familiar with, not someone he met online, because I imagine LE would have found a trail of communication if that were the case. Another possibility is that he headed for school but decided to go back home for some reason, and took a route which the neighbor's surveillance did not catch him returning to his house. This is all assuming that the 6:08am footage is actually really Harley. Such a frustrating case!

Dear @cobalt sky,

Thanks for your post - as always - full of great insight!

 

[rosesfromangels]

It’s like a child dead pool.

It’s beyond disturbing.

imo

Anything having to do with a missing child is highly sensitive and desperately painful. I took the poll as a research tool to determine which way the collective brain trust is leaning. It helps us think, and possibly discover something that might be a useful tip.

peace and love to all.
Respect and prayers for sweet Harley.

amateur opinion and speculation

 

[zencompass]

And the answer to that question has tremendous importance.

For me, it’s the difference between foul play, and Harley willingly running off.

I absolutely agree that this is key.

 

[LietKynes]

If Harley was feeling sick and wanted to stay home then it makes no sense to me that he went to meet someone. How did he communicate with that person at 6am to go meet him? We know he had no cell phone and LE must have gone through house phone records plus any electronics left over at the house. LE would have already gotten in touch with whomever he would have contacted.

There’s a reason they’re asking for that video footage from the night before.

bbm
For some reason I thought LE had that footage and were keeping it close to the vest.
Apparently not ?

 

[Linda7NJ]

We’re having a discussion, one that has many different viewpoints. A poll is helpful in figuring out which way members are leaning.

Some people think Harley is alive and well, others think he ran away, or met with some sort of foul play.

No one is rooting for anything other than a happy ending, but it’s important not to conflate what we want to have happened, with what we think did happen.

A poll is not a contest.

I think we all know the odds are stacked against Harley Dilly. I’m still placing my bet on the long shot.
He’s somewhere, and I prefer to believe he’s alive until we know for a fact he isn’t. EVERY child deserves as much.

all in my opinion

 

[Linda7NJ]

And the answer to that question has tremendous importance.

For me, it’s the difference between foul play, and Harley willingly running off.

Harley could very well have run off AND met with foul play.

we know nothing.

 

[MassGuy]

Harley could very well have run off AND met with foul play.

we know nothing.

Sure, but those two occurring at the same time are less likely than one or the other.