OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #52

[Cool Cats]

Win or lose who ever is paying those attorney fees for RN has lost that money for good, am I right or can they recoup attorney fees from the state if RN wins?

No.

 

[Cool Cats]

She isn't wearing one anymore.

In the recent Motion Gerlach said Rita's freedom is severely curtailed so it sounds like she is still on house arrest. Without an ankle monitor she can take liberties that the DA would not want so I'm surprised it's off. Maybe the State won't pay for it anymore.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

She isn't wearing one anymore.

She not on house arrest?

 

[Johnny B Bad]

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In the recent Motion Gerlach said Rita's freedom is severely curtailed so it sounds like she is still on house arrest. Without an ankle monitor she can take liberties that the DA would not want so I'm surprised it's off. Maybe the State won't pay for it anymore.

How can they she is home without the ankle bracelet monitor?

 

[Loomis124]

In the recent Motion Gerlach said Rita's freedom is severely curtailed so it sounds like she is still on house arrest. Without an ankle monitor she can take liberties that the DA would not want so I'm surprised it's off. Maybe the State won't pay for it anymore.

I've never seen any proof that the State ever paid a dime for anything on RN's behalf. She neither is nor ever was indigent that I can find. ?? Please share link if she was. TY JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

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How can they she is home without the ankle bracelet monitor?

Loomis said that it's off, but here is what Gerlach says in his November 14 Motion:

"The defendant remains shackled with an ankle bracelet and her freedom severely restricted."

Oh this is interesting, Angie may have forged Rita's signature:

"Even more important, the State has indicated that it's latest handwriting experts believe the Defendant, Rita Newcomb, did not sign the alleged forged documents. It seems the proper thing to do is to dismiss these forgery charges against the Defendant in light of the new exculpatory evidence obtained by the State."

 

[Loomis124]

All one has to do is watch the videos I posted from WCPO taken on Monday, Nov. 18th. She clearly is not shackled. JMO based on news media.

 

[Cool Cats]

I've never seen any proof that the State ever paid a dime for anything on RN's behalf. She neither is nor ever was indigent that I can find. ?? Please share link if she was. TY JMO

You said her ankle monitor was off and all I could think of is some problem with the payment. But your right, I don't think the State is paying for it because apparently, people have to pay to use the monitor, but a sliding scale according to income might be offered.

How Much Does an Ankle Monitor Cost? | HowMuchIsIt.org

5 Things to Know About Ankle Monitors

"..For law offenders who do not want to spend time in jail, they will usually shoulder the cost of the ankle monitor..

..The cost of an ankle monitor will depend on how your state is set up. Most of the time, your state will charge a daily usage fee, which is usually between $5 to $20 per day, plus a $100 to $200 one-time setup fee..

..but some jurisdictions may have a sliding scale based on your income, so the prices could vary depending on where you live.."

 

[Cool Cats]

All one has to do is watch the videos I posted from WCPO taken on Monday, Nov. 18th. She clearly is not shackled. JMO based on news media.

Ok. Thanks. Maybe they take it off for court appearences?

 

[Loomis124]

R.I.P. Hannah Hazel Gilley, Christopher Rhoden, Jr., Hanna May Rhoden, Dana Rhoden, Frankie Rhoden, Chris Rhoden, Sr., Gary Rhoden, and Kenneth Rhoden...Go Rest High on That Mountain...we will never give up on justice to your killers.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

All one has to do is watch the videos I posted from WCPO taken on Monday, Nov. 18th. She clearly is not shackled. JMO based on news media.

What are you talking about shackled, Rita had a ankle monitor bracelet on, not leg shackles?

 

[Betty P]

Loomis said that it's off, but here is what Gerlach says in his November 14 Motion:

"The defendant remains shackled with an ankle bracelet and her freedom severely restricted."

Oh this is interesting, Angie may have forged Rita's signature:

"Even more important, the State has indicated that it's latest handwriting experts believe the Defendant, Rita Newcomb, did not sign the alleged forged documents. It seems the proper thing to do is to dismiss these forgery charges against the Defendant in light of the new exculpatory evidence obtained by the State."

It could also be Gerlach bluffing. Recall, he's allowed to lie, he doesn't have to prove anything.

"My dog doesn't bark, my dog doesn't bite, I don't think the defendant was bitten, I don't own a dog."

 

[Cool Cats]

It could also be Gerlach bluffing. Recall, he's allowed to lie, he doesn't have to prove anything.

"My dog doesn't bark, my dog doesn't bite, I don't think the defendant was bitten, I don't own a dog."

Really? lie in a Motion?
Slight of hand now slight of words.
He says the State has "indicated." Indicated? What does that even mean? Sounds like a word to play around with. Like the State has "hinted" or the State "possibly" or the State gives the "impression" or the State "should know." Etc....

I'm sure the State checked her signature and Hanna's or they wouldn't know it's a forged document. You can't tell by just looking. The State already had hand writing experts analyze the documents before they brought charges I would assume, I have that impression, it's possible, I have a hint.......etc......

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I did one transcript with Grelach talking about the box of important stuff and he mentioned a Texas Website is where they downloaded the custody documents from. Then I did the transcript where Canepa read off the dates of Angie's phone calls and she gave some information of what the phone calls were about.

According to Canepa Gerlach found out about the box of important stuff from Angie telling Rita on one of those phone calls, then Rita told Gerlach.

It must have been really significant to AW, because she could have just asked her lawyer to speak to RN's lawyer. The phone calls seem hinky to me. They had to know that they were being recorded. I wish we could have heard all that was said. MOO I think AW was trying to convey multiple messages, not just the more obvious one about the box of "important stuff." JMO

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Loomis said that it's off, but here is what Gerlach says in his November 14 Motion:

"The defendant remains shackled with an ankle bracelet and her freedom severely restricted."

Oh this is interesting, Angie may have forged Rita's signature:

"Even more important, the State has indicated that it's latest handwriting experts believe the Defendant, Rita Newcomb, did not sign the alleged forged documents. It seems the proper thing to do is to dismiss these forgery charges against the Defendant in light of the new exculpatory evidence obtained by the State."

Where did you get that quote? OMGosh! If that is true, why would she even consider NOT testifying against AW? Unreal! My Mom would always love me, and she'd tell me so as she walked by me after testifying against me!!! MOO... These 2 families are so beyond dysfunctional. Don't even have words!

 

[Cool Cats]

Where did you get that quote? OMGosh! If that is true, why would she even consider NOT testifying against AW? Unreal! My Mom would always love me, and she'd tell me so as she walked by me after testifying against me!!! MOO... These 2 families are so beyond dysfunctional. Don't even have words!

This comes from Gerlach's response to the State's Motion to Continue (postpone) Trial - page #4. I don't know if this is Gerlach playing fast and loose with the truth, lying like lawyers are "allowed" to do, or if he actually has real evidence from these supposed handwriting experts.

If Angie did sign Rita's signature this could be one reason why Angie is so controlling over Rita's testimony, not to help Rita, but to help herself and the "boys." She told Rita not to testify against them, that she doesn't have to if she doesn't want to. But if Rita does testify Angie gave her the words to use, calling them buzz words, and telling Rita that this is how the custody documents can be explained. (From Rita's Revocation Hearing)

I put these in the Media & Timeline no Discussion Pike Co, OH Thread.
From Angenette Levy, a reporter for Local 12 WKRC-TV Cincinnati

State's (full) Motion to postpone trial:

Dropbox - State's Motion Continuance Rita.pdf - Simplify your life

Defense's (full) response to State's Motion to postpone trial:

Dropbox - Rita's Motion Contra.pdf - Simplify your life

 

[sunshineray]

So does AW's brother face any legal censure for his part in setting up the JW/AW conference call? Did he break any laws doing that?

 

[Fight4justice]

So does AW's brother face any legal censure for his part in setting up the JW/AW conference call? Did he break any laws doing that?

Good question! I promise you if it was me that did it, my a$$ would be in jail, interfering in a homicide investigation, obstruction of justice etc... just saying

 

[Betty P]

Good question! I promise you if it was me that did it, my a$$ would be in jail, interfering in a homicide investigation, obstruction of justice etc... just saying

IDK, one would think so. Could be they're working on a plea deal with him. If not, they may plan to deal with him later. Prosecution has a lot on their plate right now with all these cases. Better they focus on RN and the 4Ws for now.

 

[Cool Cats]

So does AW's brother face any legal censure for his part in setting up the JW/AW conference call? Did he break any laws doing that?

No. No laws. He can legally talk to Jake and Rita and Angela, Angela can legally talk to him. It 100% falls on Angie's shoulders not to talk to Jake on a 3-way call. She can tell Chris no: "no don't put Jake on, I can't talk to him."

Chris did not force her to talk to Jake.
No one to blame but herself.....Angela Wagner does whatever she wants...no one tells her what to do.