OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #55

[Niner]

Any word on when the Grand Jury is going to hear the McDaniels' case? I have a note that says it will be after July 12th.

TIA!

 

[Betty P]

How can the Police Department hold Billy Wagner in jail for 2 1/2 years without proof for the arrest, somehow I think FW could be behind this article? JMO

Yes, the judges heard the evidence over 2 years ago. They were convinced. It's just the defense trying to put a lot of false info out to taint the jury pool.

 

[IType]

How can the Police Department hold Billy Wagner in jail for 2 1/2 years without proof for the arrest, somehow I think FW could be behind this article? JMO

I also wondered if FW was the driving force behind this motion.

But I'm a little confused by this MSM article and also the motion, itself, filed by BW's attorney. All six accused in the Rhoden murders were arrested 11/13/2018. According to my math skills, that means his client has only been held in jail for 1-1/2 years, not 2-1/2 years. Am I correct? JMO

 

[Niner]

Any word on when the Grand Jury is going to hear the McDaniels' case? I have a note that says it will be after July 12th.

TIA!

Oops - sorry thread - can't delete - just ignore please....

 

[Cool Cats]

I also wondered if FW was the driving force behind this motion.

But I'm a little confused by this MSM article and also the motion, itself, filed by BW's attorney. All six accused in the Rhoden murders were arrested 11/13/2018. According to my math skills, that means his client has only been held in jail for 1-1/2 years, not 2-1/2 years. Am I correct? JMO

Yes only 1 year 7 months not 2-1/2 years. Someone is exaggerating tacking on an extra 11 months...Humm...

 

[Betty P]

Yes only 1 year 7 months not 2-1/2 years. Someone is exaggerating tacking on an extra 11 months...Humm...

 

[Loomis124]

It's just Collins and the other defense attorneys trying to stall longer so they can bill for more hours. Maybe they're worried more W's will take plea agreements and the trials will never happen. Defense attorneys will miss out on a lot of money if that happens, so best to get as much of it now while its still in the pre-trial phase.

Defense has all the evidence and they've had a very long time to study it. They even got the judge to shell out more cash to hire someone to help them organize it. Now they still keep delaying.

They 4 Wags should follow the example of the Golden State Killer Josephe DeAngelo and just take a plea deal to avoid the death penalty. DeAngelo knew the handwriting was on the wall with his DNA evidence and all the other evidence compiled by prosecutors. The 4 W's are in much worse shape than DeAngelo. The state has much, much more evidence against the Wagners, but otherwise they're similar to the serial killer. A bunch of losers who killed innocent people in their sleep. Just for their own sick amusement. And in the end, they're all pathetic cowards.

Golden State Killer suspect Joseph James DeAngelo Jr, 74, 'avoids death penalty under proposed deal' | Daily Mail Online

JMO, it's just a matter of time before another one takes a deal.

Amen, BettyP!! Billy Boy needs to face up to his dirty deeds! The Wagners are going down!

 

[Loomis124]

He can make those claims. Can he back them up with facts? Are they on a fishing expedition to get the Prosecution to release evidence to prove he should not get bond lowered?

Absolutely positively yes, Dudly, IMO! It's more of Frederick's dirty money, bribes and filthy influence at work here...lol. Makes me wanna puke.

Collins, you are a pathetic loser for even representing these scumbags. I will be happy to see you go down with them though.

 

[Loomis124]

STATE OF OHIO -vs- WAGNER, III, GEORGE WASHINGTON

Canepa returned to the case June 4 as special prosecutor to assist Prosecutor Robert Junk, according to a court filing:

06/04/2020 ENTRY APPOINTING SPECIAL PROSECUTOR, ANGELA CANEPA FILED

06/15/2020 BOND MOTION---COUNSEL FOR THE DEFENDANT MOVES THE COURT TO GRANT GEORGE WASHINGTON WAGNER III A REASONABLE BOND, WITH APPROPRIATE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE FILED

IN THE BOND MOTION:

“Review of the incomplete discovery reveals no connection between Mr. Wagner and the Rhoden family deaths. The State provides no eyewitness testimony alleging seeing Mr. Wagner perpetrating the crimes as charged. There is no evidence linking Mr. Wagner to these alleged crimes. There is no physical evidence that links him to any of the crime scenes.”

No Evidence?

Evidence includes recordings of 13 audio and video interviews,
3D scans from each scene, as well as diagrams showing ballistic, biological and other evidence at the scenes, more than 100 aerial photos; autopsy reports and X-rays, photos of a victim's child taken at the hospital, photos from a property searched by investigators, photo of burnt VCR, 21 photos from the search of the well, another seven photos of the recovered item with an 8-page ATF firearm report, information from Maglite which can be used in gun silencers, cell tower records; a photo of George Wagner's tattoo; a gun list; 1,475 crime scene photos, custody messages (1 excel sheet with 519 entries), 1 excel sheet from Big Bear Lake, electronic communications and wire searches, Boondock Saints video clip, Facebook screenshots; photos from other searches performed by investigators; Walmart surveillance photos and receipts, Jackson Days Inn trash pull, DNA and lab reports, ballistic reports, cell phone records, cell tower records, forged custody documents, the "Daily" report, shell casings found at the victim's homes and outside the Wagner's homes, shoe print expert's testimony, handwriting expert's testimony, witness statements, recordings from a confidential reliable source, photos and inventory from Flying Farms search, photos and inventory from Ford Excrusion search, photos and inventory and documents recovered from US 41 trailer searchs including a Black Ram 2500 search and a Gray Dodge Ram search. No alibi.

OMG, Cool Cats! Have I told you lately that I love you?!!

 

[Loomis124]

He can make those claims. Can he back them up with facts? Are they on a fishing expedition to get the Prosecution to release evidence to prove he should not get bond lowered?

Angie Canepa will never allow it!

BTW, I have a question. Why isn't Pierson doing the prosecuting this month? Could be AC is the only one with any Bells..bolls...ya know what I mean....

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Looks like the defense laid out their case to the public and it's pretty weak. Good luck fellas.

Sounds like they're trying to go for the OJ Simpson defense, claiming evidence tampering. Sorry, but there haven't been any break-ins anywhere. Evidence wasn't stored in a trailer. All evidence has been stored off site.

The deal with Rita Newcomb was a "win" for the prosecution, saving a lot of time and expense.

AC resigning from state AG job and contracting to the PCPO means nothing.

And there is DNA evidence, along with security cam video, ballistic evidence, blood in personal autos, and all that digital evidence - phone conversations, purchasing of equipment, ammo, clothing, etc. Hacking of computers, social media and cell phones of the victims and their families and hundreds of digital messages and texts, voicemails, etc.

Well said!

 

[GoBuckeyes]

It's just Collins and the other defense attorneys trying to stall longer so they can bill for more hours. Maybe they're worried more W's will take plea agreements and the trials will never happen. Defense attorneys will miss out on a lot of money if that happens, so best to get as much of it now while its still in the pre-trial phase.

Defense has all the evidence and they've had a very long time to study it. They even got the judge to shell out more cash to hire someone to help them organize it. Now they still keep delaying.

They 4 Wags should follow the example of the Golden State Killer Josephe DeAngelo and just take a plea deal to avoid the death penalty. DeAngelo knew the handwriting was on the wall with his DNA evidence and all the other evidence compiled by prosecutors. The 4 W's are in much worse shape than DeAngelo. The state has much, much more evidence against the Wagners, but otherwise they're similar to the serial killer. A bunch of losers who killed innocent people in their sleep. Just for their own sick amusement. And in the end, they're all pathetic cowards.

Golden State Killer suspect Joseph James DeAngelo Jr, 74, 'avoids death penalty under proposed deal' | Daily Mail Online

JMO, it's just a matter of time before another one takes a deal.

Do you think it'll take one guilty verdict before one turns, or before the trials start?

 

[Dudly]

Angie Canepa will never allow it!

BTW, I have a question. Why isn't Pierson doing the prosecuting this month? Could be AC is the only one with any Bells..bolls...ya know what I mean....

He is probably going to be involved in the trial part of the cases. I am sure he knows exactly what is going on.

 

[Cool Cats]

OMG, Cool Cats! Have I told you lately that I love you?!!

.......LOL..!!!!

 

[Cool Cats]

Angie Canepa will never allow it!

BTW, I have a question. Why isn't Pierson doing the prosecuting this month? Could be AC is the only one with any Bells..bolls...ya know what I mean....

Pierson should be there next week because he's still on the case and he comes to every hearing -- unless I missed something?

 

[Cool Cats]

DeWine was asked at the arrest press conference if there was any evidence at the crime scenes and he said "yes there was some evidence."

Don't know what evidence but when I re-listened to the press conference I was glad to hear him say that. So Billy's attorneys can "shake a stick" at that too but it - along with the other mountain ranges of evidence - won't go away no matter how many months pass by.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

DeWine was asked at the arrest press conference if there was any evidence at the crime scenes and he said "yes there was some evidence."

Don't know what evidence but when I re-listened to the press conference I was glad to hear him say that. So Billy's attorneys can "shake a stick" at that too but it - along with the other mountain ranges of evidence - won't go away no matter how many months pass by.

Billy is going to lay the blame on his wife and son’s, JMO

 

[Dudly]

It will be interesting to see their demeanor in the next hearings. They surely see the writing on the wall by know, unless their attorneys are not telling them how it is...

I just thought of something. Will the Ws be required to wear a mask at their hearings? If so, it may be hard to tell their reactions. That would be disappointing...

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Mike DeWine
Stated that 4 dozen law enforcement took part in the investigations, so does Billy Wagner and his attorney call all those police officers liars? JMO
DeWine on coming Pike County trials: 'People are just going to shake their heads.'

 

[Cool Cats]

Billy is going to lay the blame on his wife and son’s, JMO

Yah it's paculiar no one else's attorneys are crying innocent.

Mike DeWine
Stated that 4 dozen law enforcement took part in the investigations, so does Billy Wagner and his attorney call all those police officers liars? JMO
DeWine on coming Pike County trials: 'People are just going to shake their heads.'

How big was the Pike County murders investigation?

• Adams County Sheriff's Office
• Buckeye State Sheriffs' Association
• Butler County Sheriff's Office
• Chillicothe Police Department
• Clark County Prosecutor's Office
• Columbus Division of Police
• Delaware County Sheriff's Office
• Franklin County Prosecutor's Office
• Franklin County Sheriff's Office
• Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office
• Ohio Air National Guard
• Ohio Crisis Response Team
• Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction
• Ohio Department of Taxation
• Ohio Organized Crime Investigations Commission
• Ohio State Highway Patrol
• Pickaway County Sheriff's Office
• Piketon Police Department
• Portsmouth Police Department
• Ross County Sheriff's Office
• Scioto County Prosecutor's Office
• Scioto County Sheriff's Office
• U.S. 23 Major Crimes Task Force
• Warren County Prosecutor's Office
• Warren County Sheriff's Office
• Waverly Police Department
• Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
• Customs and Border Patrol
• Drug Enforcement Agency
• Federal Bureau of Investigation
• Homeland Security Investigations
• U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Ohio
• U.S. Postal Inspection Service