OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #82

[arielilane]

AC requested to approach the stand, all Counsels have approached the stand. Possibly a break is due?

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/jamespilcher

another call from George about coming home due to "family emergency" - when they had gotten the text of the picture of Jake holding the 1911 plus all the other pictures Scheiderer sent to George.

George says "they are making stuff up" about law enforcement and the pictures

Next call: Angela says don't say anything on the phone. If they arrest you, don't sign anything. George: I don't think they're going to arrest me.

George: Everything they have is pinned on Jake ... who else knows about it - who is the family snitch?

Now Angela telling George she thinks Beth tried to poison them by filling up ice trays with something that didn't taste or smell right.

Angela calls George about the picture of gun in Jake's hand - says Beth recognized it as Jake's hand, to which they all said "no it's not" George says "she's full of s---"

Breaking until 3:30 p.m.

 

[Betty P]

AC requested to approach the stand, all Counsels have approached the stand. Possibly a break is due?

Break til 3:30 pm

 

[arielilane]

Recess until 3:30 pm ET

 

[Skully67]

Law&Crime feed must be on a delay because the tweets are ahead of the feed.

 

[justtrish]

These recordings sure put many things into perspective.

I've seen many comments about Agent Scheiderer getting annoyed on the stand. I'd say he has EVERY right to be. Listening to these 4 discuss things like harming him, breaking out of jail, mocking BCI, discussing they knew they are being recorded, just listening to all their bull crap for months knowing they are guilty of massacring 8 people and then they want to talk how bad everyone else is, how evil others are, how BCI has it out for THEM. Then the defense attornies are going to question him as if he is unethical?

Edited to add: and I realize LE are supposed to have thick skin, be above all else, not get flustered over things like this, etc. I know the defense is just doing their job, etc. These are human beings also that have lived this case for years. Personally invested, had their own lives threatened by these cowards.. and weather real or just ranting, when 8 people have been murdered, do we really think it was just ranting and would you put your faith in that if it meant you and your family were at risk if you were wrong? NOPE!

 

[Jealoushe]

Where can I listen to the recordings?

 

[ColMustard]

I'll have to go back in the video and listen, but AW asked G4 if he thought that Mr.Smiley on Topix ...(knows? ... something?)

Either they don't know him, or she is referring to a particular person.

Like I said, I need to replay.

G4 says "I know mom, the whole world knows, it's worldwide.."

Love to see the transcript.

Ok, I found the clip but can't get the direct link until the feed ends. It starts at (see edit)

(EDIT: I think the time stamp is changing as time passes on the live feed. Either that or there is a huge difference in the timestamp between my phone, the PC, and this embedded player.) sorry, this is maddening.



Sounds like AW and GW4 think Mr Smiley could be BCI. Something he posted has AW's attention and is hoping it's a scare tactic?

Proves me wrong, I thought Smiley was a W!

Scheiderer was in their heads! Rent free.

 

[ColMustard]

Where can I listen to the recordings?

Post #964 has the feed for today. Just a couple of posts back.

 

[justtrish]

Another thing to take from these recordings. I didn't think Beth was as odd as they tried to say she was. CN and his wife saying she was odd, Angela testifying she was odd.. hearing her say Jake said he's take her in the barn.. etc.

Then we hear the recordings about just how paranoid George and Angela are about Beth. Jake isn't even concnered at all.. George is just going on and on. He doesn't like her and maybe that's because he was paranoid she would go to BCI. He didn't like an outsider in from the start. Jake wasn't concerned with that. It was George that was the paranoid one of the two. George and his mother just feed off each other.

I also don't really hear any undertones that Angela favored Jake. Seems the opposite. George and mommy were two peas in a pod and Jake was the one they kept having to talk to.

Hopefully, these recordings put all the Beth doubters to rest as well. She had reason to be afraid and when she said she didn't like George or that George was seeing and she knew he was leaving and when he came home. Maybe she knew the comings and goings because she was terrified someone was going to kill her too. She was on high alert because she had reason to be afraid of them all. George was not the innocent one quietly going to do his own thing all night every night oblivious to what his family had done. Nope, he was up to his neck in doodoo with the rest of them.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Is court done for the day?

 

[justtrish]

Ok, I found the clip but can't get the direct link until the feed ends. It starts at -1:40:00.

Sounds like AW and GW4 think Mr Smiley could be BCI. Something he posted has AW's attention and is hoping it's a scare tactic?

Proves me wrong, I thought Smiley was a W!

Scheiderer was in their heads! Rent free.

Wouldn't it be funny if Smiley was a W.. just messing with mommy? I could see Jake doing that.

 

[ColMustard]

Is court done for the day?

Back at 3:30 for more audio. I think the state wants to rest today.

 

[ralyla]

Why does Angela keep mentioning George and his caffeine? I'm assuming shes blaming that on his ranting and raving? Could it be a code for something else?

 

[ColMustard]

Wouldn't it be funny if Smiley was a W.. just messing with mommy? I could see Jake doing that.

Well if I twist it enough, he still could be. If she thought the phones were bugged... Is it a ruse?

 

[justtrish]

Why does Angela keep mentioning George and his caffeine? I'm assuming shes blaming that on his ranting and raving? Could it be a code for something else?

It is odd.. maybe it is code for something?

Just like Jake telling mommy he put the something with sprinkles in the kitchen cabinet. I mean okay. They were so paranoid they even keep saying don't talk on the phone, when I see you I need talk about this or that. I guess it's possible he just took caffeine pills or drank excessive coffee or soda? Maybe he took pills like Billy to stay awake or I dunno meth? He is smaller now than April 2016, but maybe he decided to eat well and exercise after the murders?

 

[Tillicum]

Another thing to take from these recordings. I didn't think Beth was as odd as they tried to say she was. CN and his wife saying she was odd, Angela testifying she was odd.. hearing her say Jake said he's take her in the barn.. etc.

Then we hear the recordings about just how paranoid George and Angela are about Beth. Jake isn't even concnered at all.. George is just going on and on. He doesn't like her and maybe that's because he was paranoid she would go to BCI. He didn't like an outsider in from the start. Jake wasn't concerned with that. It was George that was the paranoid one of the two. George and his mother just feed off each other.

I also don't really hear any undertones that Angela favored Jake. Seems the opposite. George and mommy were two peas in a pod and Jake was the one they kept having to talk to.

Hopefully, these recordings put all the Beth doubters to rest as well. She had reason to be afraid and when she said she didn't like George or that George was seeing *advertiser censored* and she knew he was leaving and when he came home. Maybe she knew the comings and goings because she was terrified someone was going to kill her too. She was on high alert because she had reason to be afraid of them all. George was not the innocent one quietly going to do his own thing all night every night oblivious to what his family had done. Nope, he was up to his neck in doodoo with the rest of them.

After hearing these recordings, just imagine how concerned BCI must've been for Beth's safety.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Pretty sure her plea agreement requires that she serve all 30 yrs. No time off for good behavior, etc.

That's what I recall, as well.

 

[justtrish]

After hearing these recordings, just imagine how concerned BCI must've been for Beth's safety.

Really makes so much more sense why they were at Walmart and watching. Knowing what they said already that was intercepted and knowing they were paranoid about being bugged and didn't talk on the phone (even they sure did say enough on the phone..lol), it's possible they were concerned there was something bad intended for Beth they didn't hear on the wire taps.

 

[OhioBlues]

These recordings sure put many things into perspective.

I've seen many comments about Agent Scheiderer getting annoyed on the stand. I'd say he has EVERY right to be. Listening to these 4 discuss things like harming him, breaking out of jail, mocking BCI, discussing they knew they are being recorded, just listening to all their bull crap for months knowing they are guilty of massacring 8 people and then they want to talk how bad everyone else is, how evil others are, how BCI has it out for THEM. Then the defense attornies are going to question him as if he is unethical?

Edited to add: and I realize LE are supposed to have thick skin, be above all else, not get flustered over things like this, etc. I know the defense is just doing their job, etc. These are human beings also that have lived this case for years. Personally invested, had their own lives threatened by these cowards.. and weather real or just ranting, when 8 people have been murdered, do we really think it was just ranting and would you put your faith in that if it meant you and your family were at risk if you were wrong? NOPE!

Hearing GW talk to his son after the border interview was enough for me. That was child abuse.

I think AW did the ice cube thing, the poisoning thing and made up all of those molestation claims to her own kids.

AW doesn't even talk like she likes her grandkids.

I keep questioning why she wanted them to begin with.

Her speaking about God is ridiculous too.

Why did she get 30 years? She set it in motion. MOO

(I haven't been able to watch a lot of the trial.)