OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#40

[Myland]

A poster was looking for quotes regarding "people close are not truthful". Here is a second link.

As Pike County sheriff is sworn in, he says Rhoden murders remain priority

Good article Jmo

 

[Jonas_Klein]

He was still on the drug issue Jmo

I don't know. I am looking at the schedule of interviews, the Ws had been interviewed by then, but most happened after. So I am not sure it was for them.

Before the arrests, I had my own private list of suspects and the Ws were not alone on it.

I long believed the motive was about living happier with a boyfriend, a baby and a dog.

I was almost right on the motive. The accused will have their boyfriends in jail.

 

[Cool Cats]

This article lists all the agencies involved in the Rhoden/Gilley murder investigation. It is massive! Blows my mind.

How big was the Pike County murders investigation? 

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I think reader and his staff committed these murders and they may be framing the w’s

WS is LE friendly.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

BBM - ONE. Not all. One. That’s hardly all of the homes being infested. Further, if one looks at the invoice, the invoice from what I remember doesn’t say one home, or even two or four homes. It simply says bed bug treatment. We don’t know that every home wasn’t sprayed before being put into storage as a preventative. Either way, it’s still irrelevant to eight people being murdered and four Wagners with a combined 89 charges, inclusive of 32 counts of capital murder. JMO.

The news reported that the Rhoden s where infested with Bedbugs, what about the Wagners, because the little girl of Hanna May stayed with them on the weekend plus Jake also said he stayed part time with Hanna.

 

[Gracie55]

But, I noticed a charge for a camera on that very same list of purchased items. Is it possible an atmosphere of "carelessness" was created on purpose? (The trailers being the bait?) Depending on where that camera was used; it is possible it could film / record some interesting activities or was meant to... JMO.

From the article: " ... and a camera system totaled another $21,800."

Trailers from Pike County massacre moved again

Good noticing!
Do you think they were playing "dumb hick cop" in the hopes mistakes would be made? I thought to myself at the time, I bet they have thus under observation.

I've thought throughout that the le and media remarks about the sophistication of the crime were meant to flatter the perps into carelessness.

I want to hear one of them admit it. Admit what they did. But I hate to let go of the DP if they're guilty, which IMO is likely. They thought they were so darn above the law.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

The news reported that the Rhoden s where infested with Bedbugs, what about the Wagners, because the little girl of Hanna May stayed with them on the weekend plus Jake also said he stayed part time with Hanna.

Self delete. Topic appears irrelevant to the stated motive at this time.

 

[Trudie]

CNN.com - Transcripts

I wanted to link this transcript. I THINK it to be the first in depth interview with DeWine/Reader, if anyone’s interested. It’s a terse refresher of their opinions, early on.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

The news reported that the Rhoden s where infested with Bedbugs, what about the Wagners, because the little girl of Hanna May stayed with them on the weekend plus Jake also said he stayed part time with Hanna.

I was thinking we put the bedbugs to bed.

JMO

 

[Trudie]

Do you think Sheriff Reader didn’t do a good job, I think he did a great job, by contacting the BCI in the first hour of the murders or maybe we would have never none who killed the Rhodens.

I think all LE did an amazing job. Reading the CNN link of our first ( I think) detailed update reveals their accomplishments in a short amount of time.

 

[Betty P]

DeWine: Some interviewed in Rhoden case 'have not been candid'

DeWine was still (mistakenly) focused on Rhoden family and close friends back then. They were asking for people to come forward with information they didn't have. JMO, they were still thinking it was related to robbery, small time MJ dealing and drug use and familial jealousy or somesuch, but it seems very unlikely anyone on their list of potential suspects or witnesses knew anything about the murders. The Wagners probably kept everything to themselves, with the possible exception of John Doe.

It took LE nearly a month to get around to interviewing JW, in spite of being told about the custody battle. Even then, they seemed to write off JW as a suspect. Didn't bother to interview him or other Wags until year later when they were moving to AK. I wonder what made them finally look at the Wagners?

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I was thinking we put the bedbugs to bed.

JMO

Tuck them in tight and say goodnight.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

DeWine was still (mistakenly) focused on Rhoden family and close friends back then. They were asking for people to come forward with information they didn't have. JMO, they were still thinking it was related to robbery, small time MJ dealing and drug use and familial jealousy or somesuch, but it seems very unlikely anyone on their list of potential suspects or witnesses knew anything about the murders. The Wagners probably kept everything to themselves, with the possible exception of John Doe.

It took LE nearly a month to get around to interviewing JW, in spite of being told about the custody battle. Even then, they seemed to write off JW as a suspect. Didn't bother to interview him or other Wags until year later when they were moving to AK. I wonder what made them finally look at the Wagners?

I need to look at dates but I was wondering if any of the invterviews JW gave to CGraves with the Enquirer could have lead to LE focusing on the W’s. Those articles have always stood out to me because I’ve always noticed the vast contradiction in JW’s dialogue. <modsnip: no link to substantiate>

 

[Betty P]

A poster was looking for quotes regarding "people close are not truthful". Here is a second link.

As Pike County sheriff is sworn in, he says Rhoden murders remain priority

If he was referring to the Wagners, who did he think was going to talk? FW? AW's mom? JMO, he was still thinking the Manleys and others did it. SMH. He was still probably believing the lies that the Wagners had told him, that JM and BJM were involved. JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

The news reported that the Rhoden s where infested with Bedbugs, what about the Wagners, because the little girl of Hanna May stayed with them on the weekend plus Jake also said he stayed part time with Hanna.

Only ONE Rhoden home was treated for bedbugs. To say "the Rhodens were infested with bed bugs" is inferring that ALL of their homes were infested and that is clearly not the case. Don't trash the victims please. Here is the link that shows only one crime scene had to be exterminated.

Ohio AG Office: ‘unable to identify’ all Pike County costs

 

[Betty P]

I need to look at dates but I was wondering if any of the invterviews JW gave to CGraves with the Enquirer could have lead to LE focusing on the W’s. Those articles have always stood out to me because I’ve always noticed the vast contradiction in JW’s dialogue. <modsnip: no link to substantiate>

Chris Graves was pulled off the Rhoden murders story around the time she went to AK to interview them. Wasn't it around that time that Chris made the correction to her older story "Death In the Foothills" about JW picking up S? Basically, JW changed his story about when he had picked her up from the evening of the murders to the day before. Was there someone left alive in the extended Rhoden family who refuted his story?

That was also around the time JW and AW agreed to be interviewed by the Cincinnati Enquirer via email. Perhaps something that one of them said in that interview made DeWine and Reader finally focus on them. Something that didn't match a previous statement, perhaps.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Only ONE Rhoden home was treated for bedbugs. To say "the Rhodens were infested with bed bugs" is inferring that ALL of their homes were infested and that is clearly not the case. Don't trash the victims please. Here is the link that shows only one crime scene had to be exterminated.

Ohio AG Office: ‘unable to identify’ all Pike County costs

Maybe the bedbugs were in the house Dana bought and were already there when she moved in. After all they only bought that house a month before. According to some articles on here that's not enough time to get rid of bedbugs. Apparently bedbugs are hardy little buggers.

JMO

 

[pepper 34]

That is an interesting angle, Pepper. I’d never considered that but I do believe you have a very valid point. Do you think the W’s had the nerve to tamper with the crime scenes after they were placed in storage? These trials and the facts that emerge is going to be captivating.

The fact that the camera was purchased was mentioned in the article; listed along with the trailer expenses so the cost for the camera might have been billed close in time, if not at the same time, as the other trailer expenses. This may tie the camera in to the expenses of storing the trailers, themselves. I wouldn't think anyone who was guilty of the murders would fall for such a trick though. Not people who are currently being accused of using the very same tactics in preparation of murders, anyway. They would be only too familiar with such a trap and how successful it can be, imo. ALL jmo.

 

[Trudie]

The fact that the camera was purchased was mentioned in the article; listed along with the trailer expenses so the cost for the camera might have been billed close in time, if not at the same time, as the other trailer expenses. This may tie the camera in to the expenses of storing the trailers, themselves. I wouldn't think anyone who was guilty of the murders would fall for such a trick though. Not people who are currently being accused of using the very same tactics in preparation of murders, anyway. They would be only too familiar with such a trap and how successful it can be, imo. ALL jmo.

I was thinking of the indictments mentioning electronics & surveillance devices. As the most least tech savvy person in the nation, I thought, WOW, someone is very sophisticated. Then, it dawned on me, FWF must be heavily wired with state of the art equipment! Of course the W’s know how to operate such devices. The two younger boys grew up with it, IMO.

 

[rsd1200]

I agree. My response was more so directed towards the comment about the victims weren’t made to look any worse than what they already were and what had already been reported about them. I suppose I just don’t think it’s an accurate or fair statement to say the homes were infested because we, as the public don’t know that, ya know? We don’t even know which home was treated. I’ve seen with my own eyes a previous post from HHG only accepting furniture from her grandfather because she didn’t want to bring unknown furniture in her home due to the risk of bedbugs. Just my thoughts.

I must have skimmed over that part or misread it. I could see them treating all four trailers if only found in one, though. The family members did a lot of sleepovers with one another. The bugs travel in luggage and/or handbags. Either way I don't really think that the bedbugs played a major role in the murders. You're even supposed to stay in the home while you treat them, so... I mean, I murdered eight people b/c I found it appalling that they had bedbugs. That's a pretty piddly defense.