OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#45

[Lilttledoggie]

I was unable to watch live Billy's court case today and can't find a video of it anywhere. Does anyone know where I might find one. I would really like to see it and him. Thanks

 

[Betty P]

I was unable to watch live Billy's court case today and can't find a video of it anywhere. Does anyone know where I might find one. I would really like to see it and him. Thanks

Still checking...

Billy Wagner to return to a Pike County courtroom

This is an accurate photo from today. Appears Billy was wearing street clothes

Photo 1 - Billy Wagner to return to a Pike County courtroom

Photo 2 - Billy Wagner to return to a Pike County courtroom

 

[Tiff23fr]

But...if George's ex SIL knew about the bad blood between Angie and Hanna, how is it Angie's own mother Rita did not know? If my daughter and her son's ex was having some "bad blood" between them I would not believe that my daughter just bumped into the ex and the ex just obligingly signed Guardianship papers for her child. Rita knew. She knew full well Hanna did not sign those papers for Angie or anyone else. You can bet Angie told her mother everything.

JMO

I think Rita falsely signed and/or notarized documents. She broke the law.
I don't at the CURRENT TIME believe she did it knowing the family was going to be murdered.

As evidence comes out my opinion might change.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Wow just what I think too. And Fred said she considered Hanna and Jake married. To consider them married when Hanna clearly broke up with him speaks volumes. It means she thinks Hanna was committing adultery when she dated other men and got pregnant by CG.

It means she couldn't accept the fact that Hanna actually refused to marry him. Also Jake said he thought Hanna leaving was just a phase and she'd come back to him. When she got pregnant with another man's baby and the Wagner's knew she was moving on without them, that's when they started thinking of getting rid of her.

Then they knew the Rhodens would come after them if Hanna disappeared, so they got rid of them all. Kenny was clearly designed to look like Cartel --the money thrown on his legs, and only one shot to his eye, and living away from the others, plus the Wagner's knew marijuana would be discovered around there.

EDIT ADD
Kenny lived close to Fred's just down the road, I think at least one Wagner guy stopped by there every so often to get Brownie used to him. In fact I'm sure at least 2 of the guys did that with all the dogs.

My 2 Cents........

Has anyone got today’s pre-trial video, I caught the very last where it spoke of a psychological report sometimes in the future

 

[YESorNO]

‘Piketon Family Murders’ Host Beth Karas: The Special ‘Lays The Groundwork For Us Looking Ahead’

MARCH 29, 2019

"Legal analyst and former prosecutor Beth Karas is the host of ‘The Piketon Family Murders’ special. HL spoke with Beth about the shocking murders and what it’s been like exploring this case.

The brutal murders of 7 members of the Rhoden family and the fiancee of one of the victims took the small town of Piketon, Ohio, by storm in 2016. For more than two years, the residents of Piketon waited for a major break in the case. In Nov. 2018, a series of arrests were finally made that took the town by storm once again. Four members of a prominent family with a connection to the Rhodens were charged with first-degree murder. Oxygen Media’s two-hour special, The Piketon Family Murders, airing March 31 at 7 p.m. ET, will explore the complicated and horrific massacre....

... We asked Beth what her initial reaction was to this jaw-dropping massacre....."

‘Piketon Family Murders’ Special: Beth Karas Talks Case In Interview – Hollywood Life

 

[Betty P]

‘Piketon Family Murders’ Host Beth Karas: The Special ‘Lays The Groundwork For Us Looking Ahead’

MARCH 29, 2019

"Legal analyst and former prosecutor Beth Karas is the host of ‘The Piketon Family Murders’ special. HL spoke with Beth about the shocking murders and what it’s been like exploring this case.

The brutal murders of 7 members of the Rhoden family and the fiancee of one of the victims took the small town of Piketon, Ohio, by storm in 2016. For more than two years, the residents of Piketon waited for a major break in the case. In Nov. 2018, a series of arrests were finally made that took the town by storm once again. Four members of a prominent family with a connection to the Rhodens were charged with first-degree murder. Oxygen Media’s two-hour special, The Piketon Family Murders, airing March 31 at 7 p.m. ET, will explore the complicated and horrific massacre....

... We asked Beth what her initial reaction was to this jaw-dropping massacre....."

‘Piketon Family Murders’ Special: Beth Karas Talks Case In Interview – Hollywood Life

The Oxygen web site schedule shows it playing both Saturday night and Sunday night. Not sure why, maybe they need to update their web site.

 

[Cool Cats]

 

[Cool Cats]

I was unable to watch live Billy's court case today and can't find a video of it anywhere. Does anyone know where I might find one. I would really like to see it and him. Thanks

I just found and posted it. It's extremely short though, most things are taking place "behind the scenes." But at least you can see Billy in street clothes. For some reason he looks better today than usual---like Angela looked without restraints. Billy, like Angie, is without restraints and using the shock vest under his shirt.

It seems to make an emotional/mental difference for those 2 specifically. Wasn't GW4 without restraints? Didn't make a difference if he was..... 2 Cents....

 

[Johnny B Bad]

I just found and posted it. It's extremely short though, most things are taking place "behind the scenes." But at least you can see Billy in street clothes. For some reason he looks better today than usual---like Angela looked without restraints. Billy, like Angie, is without restraints and using the shock vest under his shirt.

It seems to make an emotional/mental difference for those 2 specifically. Wasn't GW4 without restraints? Didn't make a difference if he was..... 2 Cents....

Was Billy Wagner permitted to speak into the audience like he did, I thought he was under a gag order? JMO

 

[Myland]

Jmo but I wonder if Frederica has asked Owens to give some advice how to help the other Wagner’s. Jmo just trying to figure out why Owens would have been there today jmo

 

[Caylee Advocate]

‘Piketon Family Murders’ Host Beth Karas: The Special ‘Lays The Groundwork For Us Looking Ahead’

MARCH 29, 2019

"Legal analyst and former prosecutor Beth Karas is the host of ‘The Piketon Family Murders’ special. HL spoke with Beth about the shocking murders and what it’s been like exploring this case.

The brutal murders of 7 members of the Rhoden family and the fiancee of one of the victims took the small town of Piketon, Ohio, by storm in 2016. For more than two years, the residents of Piketon waited for a major break in the case. In Nov. 2018, a series of arrests were finally made that took the town by storm once again. Four members of a prominent family with a connection to the Rhodens were charged with first-degree murder. Oxygen Media’s two-hour special, The Piketon Family Murders, airing March 31 at 7 p.m. ET, will explore the complicated and horrific massacre....

... We asked Beth what her initial reaction was to this jaw-dropping massacre....."

‘Piketon Family Murders’ Special: Beth Karas Talks Case In Interview – Hollywood Life

Thanks doll, hiya!!!!!!!! As usual, YOU ROCK

 

[Cool Cats]

Was Billy Wagner permitted to speak into the audience like he did, I thought he was under a gag order? JMO

........My 2 Cents.......

Billy was speaking to Robin and the people who were with her today in court---Friday March 29, 2019---and Billy was in his rights to do so based on this definition:

GAG ORDER
A gag order, also known as a “suppression order,” is an order made by a court or government official, restricting information from becoming public knowledge. In most cases, a gag order is issued by a judge for the purpose of preventing witnesses and jurors from obtaining information about the case outside court, to protect the integrity of the trial.

 

[Betty P]

Jmo but I wonder if Frederica has asked Owens to give some advice how to help the other Wagner’s. Jmo just trying to figure out why Owens would have been there today jmo

Most likely. Fredericka is runs the show. She's going to micromanage everybody's hearings, trials, legal strategies, possibly with the exception of the "non-bloods" Rita Newcomb and Angela Wagner. Owens is probably there to talk with Billy and his attorneys about their strategy.

FW is already running a strong media campaign. She may be sending them talking points in case any of them are interviewed by reporters. She may be setting up those interviews to coincide with or follow the Oxygen show. If so, she's going to want everyone "on message", trying to leak as much info as possible that puts the family in a favorable light.

We'll see. JMO

 

[Betty P]

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I wondered about her comment that the town/county was divided. She made it sound like most supported the Wags and thought someone else was involved. Very shady. My impression overall is that she's biased towards the Wagners and is planting seeds of doubt that someone else did the killings.

So, no, not impressed. But hey, she's got to make a living, right? JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

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Hey Cool Cat did you notice that the judge is in favor of video cast for Billy Wagner court hearing, do you think that LE thinks something might happen like attempted break out with all the new faces? JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Most likely. Fredericka is runs the show. She's going to micromanage everybody's hearings, trials, legal strategies, possibly with the exception of the "non-bloods" Rita Newcomb and Angela Wagner. Owens is probably there to talk with Billy and his attorneys about their strategy.

FW is already running a strong media campaign. She may be sending them talking points in case any of them are interviewed by reporters. She may be setting up those interviews to coincide with or follow the Oxygen show. If so, she's going to want everyone "on message", trying to leak as much info as possible that puts the family in a favorable light.

We'll see. JMO

FW better be worrying if Baby Boy Billy is in general population with any Cartel or not because after leading the police to investigate cartel members in Ohio for over a year and a half and the 4Wagners telling a lot of lies and pointing a lot of fingers at other people.JMO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

The one thing that I agree with Beth Karas is that the people here are split in what they believe. There are many who feel there are more people involved as well.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

FW better be worrying if Baby Boy Billy is in general population with any Cartel or not because after leading the police to investigate cartel members in Ohio for over a year and a half and the 4Wagners telling a lot of lies and pointing a lot of fingers at other people.JMO

Is there a link or proof that any W's caused cartel members to be investigated? That is a serious accusation if not. MOO/

 

[OhioBlues]

FW better be worrying if Baby Boy Billy is in general population with any Cartel or not because after leading the police to investigate cartel members in Ohio for over a year and a half and the 4Wagners telling a lot of lies and pointing a lot of fingers at other people.JMO

My guess is that BW is in the special pod. The pod with all of the other inmates accused of killing 8 people under the cover of darkness AND all of the other inmates accused of plotting to kill the Governor, Sheriff and BCI Agent.

Unfortunately, he is probably with other High Risk inmates because of overcrowding.

jmo

 

[Lilttledoggie]

I just found and posted it. It's extremely short though, most things are taking place "behind the scenes." But at least you can see Billy in street clothes. For some reason he looks better today than usual---like Angela looked without restraints. Billy, like Angie, is without restraints and using the shock vest under his shirt.

It seems to make an emotional/mental difference for those 2 specifically. Wasn't GW4 without restraints? Didn't make a difference if he was..... 2 Cents....

Thank you Cool Cats for the video. Very much appreciated. Did you notice he kept that scorpion well hidden and in his pocket when he was leaving the court room?