OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #24

[jk204]

Thanks Ellen Mae for your questions. They lead me to this:

THEORY ABOUT KR'S MONEY:

The assaillant knew him so well, he/she knew where he hid his money but was upset he was not sharing.

 

[Elley Mae]

Money was probably left behind because it's not about money or business.

Funeral aid was granted for FR and HG so I tend to think there was nothing in their trailer

I don't think it was Frankie's trailer, jmo it belongs to Christopher, it was on his property. Kenneth's camper was on Christopher's property. IIRC Dana's was leased/rented to her, not by Christopher..

 

[Nickandnora]

I don't think it was Frankie's trailer, jmo it belongs to Christopher, it was on his property. Kenneth's camper was on Christopher's property. IIRC Dana's was leased/rented to her, not by Christopher..

Chris had just recently bought the property Dana lived on, it is said he bought it for Dana.

 

[Elley Mae]

Chris had just recently bought the property Dana lived on, it is said he bought it for Dana.

Sorry, I missed that, it did belong to a relative, (passed away in 2012), her husband must have sold it to Christopher. I see he had purchased it in March, the month before. My bad.

 

[jk204]

I don't think it was Frankie's trailer, jmo it belongs to Christopher, it was on his property. Kenneth's camper was on Christopher's property. IIRC Dana's was leased/rented to her, not by Christopher..

I am referring to funeral aid, I dont see what ownership of the trailer has to do with it. It doesn't matter if they didn't own the trailers. FR and HG were adults, and if they were involved in the grow op activity, I would think the funeral aid would have been denied.

If a victim grows marijuana on his property, he is denied funeral aid. Are you saying the aid is granted when the property is rented?

 

[Elley Mae]

I am referring to funeral aid, I dont see what ownership of the trailer has to do with it. It doesn't matter if they didn't own the trailers. FR and HG were adults, and if they were involved in the grow op activity, I would think the funeral aid would have been denied.

If a victim grows marijuana on his property, he is denied funeral aid. Are you saying the aid is granted when the property is rented?

what claim was denied?

 

[Hapworth]

what claim was denied?

Funeral aid. Its mentioned upthread.

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[Elley Mae]

The Ohio Attorney General's crime victims services section has denied a claim to pay a brother-in-law of Christopher Rhoden Sr., one of eight family members who were shot to death in Pike County last year, for wages he lost while dealing with Rhoden's death.

http://www.dispatch.com/news/201701...istance-money-to-family-of-christopher-rhoden

David Weisel is a brother-in-law to Rhoden, and he had asked the state for about $4,800 in lost wages. Earlier online versions of this story mischaracterized the claim as being for wages lost for what Rhoden would have earned.

bbm He is the previous owner of Dana's property. Strange he would make a claim for lost wages.

A claim was recently filed by the family of 37-year-old Dana Manley Rhoden. No claim has been filed for 44-year-old Kenneth Rhoden, Chris Sr.'s brother, nor for Gary Rhoden, a cousin, who also both were shot to death that night.

bbm

 

[jk204]

The Ohio Attorney General's crime victims services section has denied a claim to pay a brother-in-law of Christopher Rhoden Sr., one of eight family members who were shot to death in Pike County last year, for wages he lost while dealing with Rhoden's death.

http://www.dispatch.com/news/201701...istance-money-to-family-of-christopher-rhoden

David Weisel is a brother-in-law to Rhoden, and he had asked the state for about $4,800 in lost wages. Earlier online versions of this story mischaracterized the claim as being for wages lost for what Rhoden would have earned.

bbm He is the previous owner of Dana's property. Strange he would make a claim for lost wages.

A claim was recently filed by the family of 37-year-old Dana Manley Rhoden. No claim has been filed for 44-year-old Kenneth Rhoden, Chris Sr.'s brother, nor for Gary Rhoden, a cousin, who also both were shot to death that night.

bbm

A letter sent to the family said there is "a preponderance of evidence that Christopher Rhoden Sr. was cultivating felony quantities of marijuana ... with the purpose of distributing" and that, by law, disqualifies any compensation

 

[Dudly]

Lot's about this don't add up. If it's true about the money at Kenneth's feet why was it left behind, and the plants at that location were left behind. At the other location the plants were there. Plants at three of the four locations, Christopher/Frankie lived in 2 trailers I believe at the same location but I think those 2 were the 2 other locations with Kenneth's that had the plants. JMO I am thinking Dana's location did not have plants.Nothing was taken that is known about to the public. Is it possible that the addresses to the 3 locations was beat out of someone at one location? Was something that was suppose to be at one of the 4 location not found? or was it found and LE/we don't know what it is? Lot's of unanswered ?'s

I think LE has said the size of the grow operation was smaller than originally stated and there were fewer locations where grow operations were found...

 

[Elley Mae]

A letter sent to the family said there is "a preponderance of evidence that Christopher Rhoden Sr. was cultivating felony quantities of marijuana ... with the purpose of distributing" and that, by law, disqualifies any compensation

Agree, but no claim was filed for funerals for Christopher, Kenneth or Gary, the claim filed was by DW for lost wages. He must have filed it on behalf of Christopher the new property owner. jmo

 

[observation]

I think LE has said the size of the grow operation was smaller than originally stated and there were fewer locations where grow operations were found...

I honestly do not believe this for one second. 3 grow operations out of 4 properties. Monies denied to certain family. Properties seized. Too many reasons to think otherwise. Just MOO
ETA- may or may not be related to the murders ,but these grow operations were not just "small time" personal use grows.

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[Jax49]

Watch the link I provided (and it worked for a change lol.) Reader replied to the question the reporter asked and your welcome!

Can you (or anyone) provide a time stamp or a quick overview of the reference to shrink warp?

It would be much appreciated as I don't have 40 minutes to listen to the whole interview today. Thanks for posting it; I'll try to find time later.

 

[Canaille]

I'm confused about the lost wages. Were these wages that he lost from a job he was employed at? I never knew that a relative could claim lost wages for attending to anything related to a death.

 

[Elley Mae]

I'm confused about the lost wages. Were these wages that he lost from a job he was employed at? I never knew that a relative could claim lost wages for attending to anything related to a death.

The one thing that I could come up with (in my mind) is that DW being the seller of the home to CR is that maybe CR did a down payment in allotments that DW did not get payed.(due to death) Or that Dana was in the home as a renter until the loan was complete. IDK But he thought he would try to recoup money for some reason. jmo idk

 

[Nickandnora]

The one thing that I could come up with (in my mind) is that DW being the seller of the home to CR is that maybe CR did a down payment in allotments that DW did not get payed.(due to death) Or that Dana was in the home as a renter until the loan was complete. IDK But he thought he would try to recoup money for some reason. jmo idk

I was wondering of the possibility of money being owed to Chris by the county as it has been said he hauled gravel. I do not know about the county he hauled for, but some counties are contract, maybe it was for money owing for gravel. Just a thought, also sheriff has said there was only very small amount of plants found at 2 locations.

 

[glf]

I distinctly remember LE stated grow ops, over 200 plants total were found at 3 of the 4 locations. Then,it was stated grow ops at two locations. Then it was stated the amount of plants found was much less than originally thought...
Now that we know that Chris bought Dana's home and land from a relative, my original idea that Chris didn't make a 30,000.00 cash down payment. Either there was some "horse trading" involved for a large portion of the down payment, or, it was written on paper to look good so he could get a loan from the bank. He may have only paid 30,000.00 for the place! And, that large of a loan, I would think it strange if the bank didn't insist on credit life being taken at the time the loan was made, and figured in with the payments.

 

[amauet1]

Can you (or anyone) provide a time stamp or a quick overview of the reference to shrink warp?

It would be much appreciated as I don't have 40 minutes to listen to the whole interview today. Thanks for posting it; I'll try to find time later.

It's in the last part, about last 18 minutes (sorry).

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I see the first paragraph was updated 8 minutes ago:

According to Ohio Attorney General's Office spokeswoman Jill Del Greco, information that led to the arrest of Josh Rhoden came during the course of the investigation of the April 22 massacre, but the arrest was not connected to the homicides.

This kind of belies Sheriff Reader's insistence that he isn't interested in any other criminal activity, but just wanted to catch the killers. I can see where this statement would hinder the investigation. I think anyone who might have been thinking about coming forward will not do so now for fear of arrest. That statement by AG DeWine's office defeats the purpose as far as getting people to talk.

 

[rsd1200]

Kendra R. could be wrong. AG & LE could be wrong too when they say perps were familiar with the victims. But I think there is a simpler explanation.

It's likely the dog barked and woke up KR. It would be hard for a shooter to have a clean shot through the window, in the dark,* with the dog barking, KR aware and armed. It's more likely KR let in the perp he trusted, remain around his bed, and was hit by a precise shot at close range.

How would Kendra R know about the missing gun, the eye wound and the assumption her father trusted her assaillant?

If LE believed he was killed by someone he knew, they would interview people who are very close to him. I would speculate she learned this in an interview. Otherwise I am not sure LE would have shared this information with her.

Why did she feel the need to share it? I don't know.

BBM
Possibly trying to get a point across w/o specifically saying it.