GUILTY OH - Reann Murphy, 9, raped & murdered, Smithville, 14 Dec 2013

  • #221
Listening to the 911 call and JM sounds in a panic but WHY did he call 911 and not her caretaker (stepfather, I think). Also , Jerrod gives his phone to someone who the article describes as HIS stepfather. Reann is said to have been missing for two hours. The coat and clothes Reann was wearing at the time are pretty detailed IMO.

http://www.the-daily-record.com/loc...roner-concludes-smithville-girl-was-strangled
 
  • #222
Is there a MSM source that states that JM has mental issues or has a diagnosis of autism? I haven't seen that yet. TIA.

Wayne County: Autistic neighbor charged with killing little girl, bond set at $1M

Posted: Dec 16, 2013 6:22 AM CST
Updated: Dec 16, 2013 12:46 PM CST
Posted by 19 Action News Digital Team

http://www.19actionnews.com/story/2...arged-with-killing-little-girl-bond-set-at-1m

http://kctv.membercenter.worldnow.c...arged-with-killing-little-girl-bond-set-at-1m

One neighbor, Shari Rose, told WKYC that Metsker made one of the 9-1-1 calls about Reann being missing. She also said he frequently played outside with the younger children.

Rose went on to say that Metsker's mother told people that he was autistic. Rose said she never worried when her children played with Metsker and she didn't consider him as dangerous but "just a big kid."

Rose said Metsker was the only adult male in the trailer park who declined to take a DNA test.

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/2013/12/16/wayne-county-court-arraignment/4037419/ video at the link
 
  • #223
http://www.19actionnews.com/story/2...arged-with-killing-little-girl-bond-set-at-1m

http://kctv.membercenter.worldnow.c...arged-with-killing-little-girl-bond-set-at-1m

One neighbor, Shari Rose, told WKYC that Metsker made one of the 9-1-1 calls about Reann being missing. She also said he frequently played outside with the younger children.

Rose went on to say that Metsker's mother told people that he was autistic. Rose said she never worried when her children played with Metsker and she didn't consider him as dangerous but "just a big kid."

Rose said Metsker was the only adult male in the trailer park who declined to take a DNA test.

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/2013/12/16/wayne-county-court-arraignment/4037419/ video at the link

Yes, I saw that about his mother telling the neighbors about him having autism. I'll wait on more info about that, if it comes. Listening to him on the 911 call, he seems very very functional and can speak very well too IMO.
 
  • #224
sorry matou, you asked for MSM source describing mental issue or autism. I have seen nowhere that actually features his diagnoser confirming it - all we have is the neighbor reporting mom says he's autistic and MSM reporting that he has mental "issues" at the video I linked. MSM is going by what the neighbors report his mother saying and by his behavior in teh neighborhood of acting childlike and playing with their children. I think that is as good as we will get for now til he is evaluated in preparation for trial.

As for the 911 call, goes to show how differently we can all interpret stuff. To me he sounded rather childlike as well. Similar to how my 9 year old might sound. Worried about how far he could take his mom's phone from teh house before losing signal, unsure of address and not having anticipated many of the questions the 911 operator would have as to Reann's age, apparel, etc. His confusion as he tried to get info from third parties to relay to 911 dispatcher. His seeming rush to thrust the phone at Reann's mom's boyfriend to take over.
 
  • #225
sorry matou, you asked for MSM source describing mental issue or autism. I have seen nowhere that actually features his diagnoser confirming it - all we have is the neighbor reporting mom says he's autistic and MSM reporting that he has mental "issues" at the video I linked. MSM is going by what the neighbors report his mother saying and by his behavior in teh neighborhood of acting childlike and playing with their children. I think that is as good as we will get for now til he is evaluated in preparation for trial.

As for the 911 call, goes to show how differently we can all interpret stuff. To me he sounded rather childlike as well. Similar to how my 9 year old might sound. Worried about how far he could take his mom's phone from teh house before losing signal, unsure of address and not having anticipated many of the questions the 911 operator would have as to Reann's age, apparel, etc. His confusion as he tried to get info from third parties to relay to 911 dispatcher. His seeming rush to thrust the phone at Reann's mom's boyfriend to take over.

The article is saying that NL is the stepfather of Jerrod. Very confusing. In the 911 dispatch file, he says his stepkid was playing in the center. I'm not sure who NL is, but since he knows the details of Reann's coats she was wearing, then him being HER stepfather makes more sense to me.

O/T My nephew has moderate to severe autism and can barely speak or take care of himself at all so that's my direct experience with it, although I teach some very functional high school students with autism too.
 
  • #226
NL has been reported as Reann's mom's live in boyfriend and as Reann's stepfather depending on which article you read. He did apparently reside in the apartment with Reann and her mom. Whether the two adults are actually married is not known but I suspect not. He sort of hesitated to my ear in that 911 call when asked to describe his relationship to the missing child.
 
  • #227
here is the sheriff being cited as a source of info about Jerrod's mental acuity.

Investigators with the Wayne County Sheriff's Office described Metsker as a family friend and neighbor. Capt. Douglas Hunter said Metsker has a "diminished mental capacity," but he wouldn't release information about a specific diagnosis.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-strangled-hid-body-trash.html#ixzz2nkhgjQeU

here is NL relationship to Reann reportedly as described by Capt Hunter

The girl's mother was at work Saturday afternoon while she was at home with her mother's live-in boyfriend, Hunter said. She went outside to play in the snow and was with several other children in the trailer park's courtyard, but the others went home, leaving Metsker alone with her, he said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-strangled-hid-body-trash.html#ixzz2nkiFTSDU

my only experience with Autism is my very high functioning Aspie cousin. Her only issues are in relation to socializing and relating to her peers and other people in general and she has really come into her own the last few years in that regard. She has formed some very good friendships and is navigating job, school and social life quite nicely. Very proud of her.
 
  • #228
Listening to the 911 call and JM sounds in a panic but WHY did he call 911 and not her caretaker (stepfather, I think).

Respectfully snipped by me. At about 2:28 in the 911 call, the stepfather says he doesn't have a phone himself and asks Jerrod for the phone number so he can give it to the dispatcher. HTH.
 
  • #229
Once arrested in Ohio, you have a right to a preliminary hearing before the court to determine if there was probably cause that a crime was committed and probable cause to believe that YOU are the one that committed the crime. This is because, only the police and prosecutor have looked at the charges. However, if a grand jury (a neutral body like the judge) looks at the evidence, then they can issue an indictment formally charging the crime. If they don't indict before the preliminary hearing, then the municipal court judge will have the preliminary hearing to determine probable cause for the charge and the defendant as explained above. Or, the defendant can waive his preliminary hearing and allow the charge to be bound over to the Common Pleas Court. This speeds the process along to the other Court. That's just a speed lesson, but I hope it helps you.

Thank you, Owuta! :)

This helps me understand!

:tyou:
 
  • #230
It brings back so many sad memories of many other young children who lost their lives to those who callously murdered them.:(

I thought of little 6 year old Christopher Barrios in Georgia. He too lived in a MHP. He too was a friendly little guy who loved to go to neighbors' homes to visit and play outside. He was raped and murdered by the three Edenfields who lived next door (husband, wife, and son). They are all in prison now.

I also thought of little Sandra Cantu who also lived in a MHP and was raped and murdered by Melissa Huckaby. The list is way too long and a never ending trail of tears.

It will be interesting to learn where the original crime scene is and LE probably already knows.

They were supposedly outside making snowmen with other children but it was cold so they all left but Reann and the suspect. Did he lure her to his own home? The ME said she was most likely strangled with an unknown object.

While he may have some mental difficulties he certainly knew what he had done was wrong because he concealed her body in the dumpster after murdering her. He also had the wherewithal to tell the searchers that the dumpster had already been searched (when it had not) trying to prevent them from discovering Reann's body.

I think the police may suspect a motive already since it was mentioned in an article I read that additional charges could be added clarifying the motive. I think LE is onto something. Imo, it may have been sexually motivated.

No one has mentioned how she was found and if she was clothed or not. LE nor the DA is going to reveal any detailed information at this time.

IMO

Just adding to this list of JM's actions that may lead to his knowingly doing "something wrong"...

A neighbor in a wkyc.com (12-16-13?) article stated that JM refused to provide DNA for LE when people in the MHP were asked to do so...

I imagine this painless procedure was denied by JM because of knowledge of where his DNA sample could lead... Legally...

JMO
 
  • #231
There is no way in h*** I would let my child play in the company of a grown neighbor man let a lone one with mental issues. He often played out side with neighborhood children, why no one thought that would present a problem? I would guess the parents of the other children that were there with her and went home are trembling today.

Ciao


I wouldn't, either. But you and I are Websleuthers, and I don't know about you, but I'm suspicious by nature. But many people go through life wearing rose-colored glasses. Sometimes I envy them, but not when I read about these kinds of stories. I don't think it's uncommon at all for some communities to treat the mentally impaired as if they are actual children, and therefore, not be as watchful as you or I might. I hope this community can find healing. It broke my heart to hear that child's voice calling for Reann in the background of the 911 call. :'(
 
  • #232
There is no way in h*** I would let my child play in the company of a grown neighbor man let a lone one with mental issues. He often played out side with neighborhood children, why no one thought that would present a problem? I would guess the parents of the other children that were there with her and went home are trembling today.

Ciao

I agree it would strike suspicion in me, but maybe not so in others if he never behaved inappropriately in anyway and they all played in a group in the middle of the trailer court. The guy lived there for many years, so if he was outwardly inappropriate I would hope the neighbors would put a stop to it. There is a difference between playing outside and him going inside to play dolls or something with one of the kids. A known neighborhood adult, engaging with multiple children building a snowman in an open area is not unheard of. I am hypervigilant because I read here and because of life experience.

So far through MSM, he is just looking like the once again, harmless neighbor.

What was going on in his mind is not something anyone can predict and because it appears, he was a well known neighbor, he would have a established trust with others in the neighborhood, including the kids.

Sadly, it would not be hard for him to figure out a way to harm a neighbor child no matter how watchful a parents eye is.
 
  • #233
I wouldn't, either. But you and I are Websleuthers, and I don't know about you, but I'm suspicious by nature. But many people go through life wearing rose-colored glasses. Sometimes I envy them, but not when I read about these kinds of stories. I don't think it's uncommon at all for some communities to treat the mentally impaired as if they are actual children, and therefore, not be as watchful as you or I might. I hope this community can find healing. It broke my heart to hear that child's voice calling for Reann in the background of the 911 call. :'(

I think this is a hard dilemma. Someone committing a crime like this is very rare whether they are mentally impaired or not. So far there is nothing released to indicate he was dangerous.

Smithville is a small area with a approximate population of 1200. Economic status and education have to be considered.

Communities can't isolate or shun those with disabilities, because of a few bad eggs we see, that just may happen to have those disabilities. (I'm also thinking about younger offenders that we see that aren't adults)

In a large city he may have been able to find others he shared things in common with and could have established age appropriate social interaction.
 
  • #234
Listening to the 911 call and JM sounds in a panic but WHY did he call 911 and not her caretaker (stepfather, I think). Also , Jerrod gives his phone to someone who the article describes as HIS stepfather. Reann is said to have been missing for two hours. The coat and clothes Reann was wearing at the time are pretty detailed IMO.

http://www.the-daily-record.com/loc...roner-concludes-smithville-girl-was-strangled

Thanks for the link.

Listen to the 911 call he made!

Excited like he's caught up in it, but I don't know if it's actual panic.

http://www.the-daily-record.com/loc...roner-concludes-smithville-girl-was-strangled
 
  • #235
from the article linked by Matou above:

In the 9-1-1 call, a caller who identifies himself as Metsker said Murphy was last seen a few hours prior and that neighbors were searching for her. Another caller, who identifies himself as Nicholas Lupole, told dispatch his step-child was playing with Murphy.

http://www.the-daily-record.com/loc...roner-concludes-smithville-girl-was-strangled

the article is inaccurate IMO. If you listen to the actual 911 call it is Metzker who calls, it is "L" who Metzker is trying to get description age and address info from, and it is "L" who eventually has the phone handed to him by Metzker and who then describes himself as Reann's "stepfather" although he is apparently only the mother's live in boyfriend without the benefit of marriage.
 
  • #236
[video=youtube;IFnYg8CAS0Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFnYg8CAS0Q[/video]
 
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  • #238
I honestly don't care what mental disability JM has or doesn't have. He's a "suspected" child killer and should be locked away forever. Throw out the key!
 
  • #239
Just listened to the call and while I am not an authority on how a call should be handled, it didn't seem to me anyone was in much stress except the perp. jmo

I didn't hear any stress or panic in his voice. He seemed to be caught up in the excitement, imo
 
  • #240
I agree it would strike suspicion in me, but maybe not so in others if he never behaved inappropriately in anyway and they all played in a group in the middle of the trailer court. The guy lived there for many years, so if he was outwardly inappropriate I would hope the neighbors would put a stop to it. There is a difference between playing outside and him going inside to play dolls or something with one of the kids. A known neighborhood adult, engaging with multiple children building a snowman in an open area is not unheard of. I am hypervigilant because I read here and because of life experience.

So far through MSM, he is just looking like the once again, harmless neighbor.

What was going on in his mind is not something anyone can predict and because it appears, he was a well known neighbor, he would have a established trust with others in the neighborhood, including the kids.

Sadly, it would not be hard for him to figure out a way to harm a neighbor child no matter how watchful a parents eye is.

I hear ya, also I don't mean any disrespect to those that have family or friends with these conditions. Moo

Ciao
 

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