OH - Spencer and Monique Tepe found shot to death at home 2 children unharmed, Columbus, 30 December 2025 *ex-husband arrested*

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Yes but thats the night of the murder , does anything put him in the house on the 6th
Oh, my mistake. I was thinking of the murder night. My apologies.
 
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Oh, my mistake. I was thinking of the murder night. My apologies.
No worries sometimes these threads flip from one topic to another.
 
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It seems so odd that he would try to evade detection with license plate changes and leaving his phone behind but also somehow threaten Monique or upset her enough that she left the game early. Why bother with license plates, wait nearly a decade, or higher a high profile attorney when there's a trail of threats and stalking? He must have known he would be named and caught. It's so illogical.
 
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I just looked it up online. Those tickets were going for an average of $1800 to $2500 and higher. Plus hotel, food, etc. Prices after the Mich game win skyrocketed.
I know it is a lot of money. But I think most people do not understand the tremendous fan base of Buckeye fans in Columbus. People will save all year to get tickets if need be. And when the team is doing really well, the price of tickets skyrockets.

The fans are everywhere in the city. If people are not attending a game, they are having a tailgate party, or watching it on TV. There are sites all over town where people congregate to watch the game. Even parking lots with Jumbotrons.

People all over are always wearing OSU football logo attire. The stores have all kinds of special foods prepared. Red and gray chips, cupcakes, cookies. Pizzas, etc.

People's houses are decorated in red and gray. Christmas decor is red and gray.

I could go on and on but you get the drift. So paying this kind of money for a championship game is reasonable and to be expected.

I think it is obvious now that MM was stalking MT around the OSU football schedule. The Dec 6 break in was on a big game day. The night of the murder was the one night during the holiday season when people would be at home getting ready for a big game the next day and having an early night.
 
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His actions screams prior calculation and design in his planning of committing premeditated murder.
Absolutely. He planned this double murder ahead of time in great detail. He actually thought he would get away with it.
 
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It seems so odd that he would try to evade detection with license plate changes and leaving his phone behind but also somehow threaten Monique or upset her enough that she left the game early. Why bother with license plates, wait nearly a decade, or higher a high profile attorney when there's a trail of threats and stalking? He must have known he would be named and caught. It's so illogical.
Perhaps he thought he could talk his way out of everything. Narcissists believe they are the smartest ones in the room. And they are good at covering their tracks.

He thought the license plate and phone tricks would give him an alibi. And he could deny he sent any texts to her. And accuse her of slander etc. Pretend he is the victim. Psychopaths usually accuse everyone else of the crimes they themselves commit.
 
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There's a gate. You can see the hinges.

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ETA - I've seen a better pic of that gate and hinges but it's from an unapproved site so this'll have to be JMO that those are hinges.
I agree and don't think I've ever seen a backyard fence without a gate.
 
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It seems so odd that he would try to evade detection with license plate changes and leaving his phone behind but also somehow threaten Monique or upset her enough that she left the game early. Why bother with license plates, wait nearly a decade, or higher a high profile attorney when there's a trail of threats and stalking? He must have known he would be named and caught. It's so illogical.
I'm not entirely confident we have the full story on the reason Monique left the game that night - I look forward to those details coming out. Until then, I'm not speculating as to what it may have been.

MM never thought he would be seriously looked at for the murders - it's really that simple. In his head, when weighing the risk factors, he rationalized them away. It's likely he was much more fixated on fantasizing what thier reaction to him appearing in their bedroom would be - the fear, what he would say, what they might say, how it would feel to be in complete control.

IMO, we'll never know all the details in this case, he'll take it all to the grave. I don't see MM ever telling a cellmate the chilling details of the murders. I also don't think he regrets what he did.
 
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I'm not entirely confident we have the full story on the reason Monique left the game that night - I look forward to those details coming out. Until then, I'm not speculating as to what it may have been.

MM never thought he would be seriously looked at for the murders - it's really that simple. In his head, when weighing the risk factors, he rationalized them away. It's likely he was much more fixated on fantasizing what thier reaction to him appearing in their bedroom would be - the fear, what he would say, what they might say, how it would feel to be in complete control.

IMO, we'll never know all the details in this case, he'll take it all to the grave. I don't see MM ever telling a cellmate the chilling details of the murders. I also don't think he regrets what he did.
It’s true, we dont really know, just is so coincidental that she left the game upset allegedly at the ex, and the ex was there that day. We dont even have time frames so never know. I cannot wait to find out tho.
 
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It seems so odd that he would try to evade detection with license plate changes and leaving his phone behind but also somehow threaten Monique or upset her enough that she left the game early. Why bother with license plates, wait nearly a decade, or higher a high profile attorney when there's a trail of threats and stalking? He must have known he would be named and caught. It's so illogical.
It’s possible whatever he did on Dec 6 he did not think he was seen. That’s why I’m thinking it’s likely a neighbor saw him snooping around, didn’t know who he was but texted Monique “hey I just wanted to let you know I saw some guy outside your house/in the back yard for a while” — she would have known in her gut it was him which would have been upsetting enough to leave the Big 10 championship game early IMO.
 
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It’s true, we dont really know, just is so coincidental that she left the game upset allegedly at the ex, and the ex was there that day. We dont even have time frames so never know. I cannot wait to find out tho.
 
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It might be as simple as someone texted to say they ran into him in Columbus.? If it was a direct threat then surely he knew he would get caught even though he may have felt his status provided a mask. Sounds like within 24 hours they had their man with no doubts.
 
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It’s possible whatever he did on Dec 6 he did not think he was seen. That’s why I’m thinking it’s likely a neighbor saw him snooping around, didn’t know who he was but texted Monique “hey I just wanted to let you know I saw some guy outside your house/in the back yard for a while” — she would have known in her gut it was him which would have been upsetting enough to leave the Big 10 championship game early IMO.
Yes, even if all he said was; “ hey are you guys around? Theres a guy thats been sitting in your yard looks like hes waiting for you, want me to tell him you're away?” She probably said take a picture of him and he could have even sent a screenshot. It could be anything.
 
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I wonder if they boarded the dog in December, or had a neighbor come over to care for him?
 
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It might be as simple as someone texted to say they ran into him in Columbus.? If it was a direct threat then surely he knew he would get caught even though he may have felt his status provided a mask. Sounds like within 24 hours they had their man with no doubts.
I’m not sure someone simply running into him would’ve been enough to cause MT to leave the game early.

Also I don’t think MM was the kind of guy who would just be out and about at bars. The whole problem seems to be his complete lack of social skills / social life.
 
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I'm not entirely confident we have the full story on the reason Monique left the game that night - I look forward to those details coming out. Until then, I'm not speculating as to what it may have been.

MM never thought he would be seriously looked at for the murders - it's really that simple. In his head, when weighing the risk factors, he rationalized them away. It's likely he was much more fixated on fantasizing what thier reaction to him appearing in their bedroom would be - the fear, what he would say, what they might say, how it would feel to be in complete control.

IMO, we'll never know all the details in this case, he'll take it all to the grave. I don't see MM ever telling a cellmate the chilling details of the murders. I also don't think he regrets what he did.
I agree, it is not likely MM will give an honest report of events.
That is why we are speculating. We know it is unlikely the truth will come out.

I think unless people understand the Buckeye fan base and culture they are missing pieces of the puzzle.

Those of us who understand the OSU football culture in Columbus have speculated what it meant for MT to leave that particular game at half time.

We know that MT would never leave the championship game at half time unless she had a very good reason. Several people here have chimed in along the same lines.

I also believe that MM was timing his pre-visit and murder based on the football calendar. The timing of the two visits occurred during football events.

Yes it appears that MM is a narcissist and assumes he is the smartest person in the room. He is also an amateur and has no idea how real LE investigations are carried out. He thought his cheap tricks, the phone and license plates would get him off the hook.

I agree, quite possibly he was fixated on the sadistic details of the murder. Instead of doing a more professional job.

He was an amateur, it was a first time murder, and it was a very personal murder. Usually many mistakes are made in this kind of situation.
 
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I'm not entirely confident we have the full story on the reason Monique left the game that night - I look forward to those details coming out. Until then, I'm not speculating as to what it may have been.

MM never thought he would be seriously looked at for the murders - it's really that simple. In his head, when weighing the risk factors, he rationalized them away. It's likely he was much more fixated on fantasizing what thier reaction to him appearing in their bedroom would be - the fear, what he would say, what they might say, how it would feel to be in complete control.

IMO, we'll never know all the details in this case, he'll take it all to the grave. I don't see MM ever telling a cellmate the chilling details of the murders. I also don't think he regrets what he did.
I suspect someone knows why Monique went back to the hotel. I think that she would call someone like her mother or sister and talk about what was so upsetting that she left the game.

It doesn't make sense to me to leave his phone at a hospital cot room but exit himself where he was surely picked up by footage having him leave and return. Surely, the footage is kept long enough for police to go through it. Perhaps, it is as you say, he figured that he wouldn't be that much of a suspect.

Another thing that just amazes me is that he left casings behind. I don't care if I have to scour beneath the bed, I'm going to find all of the casings for the gun. Also, why on earth would you keep the gun, the silencer and the fake license plates?

None of it makes sense to me unless this guy had been stealing drugs somehow from the hospital and was hooked on drugs. That's the only way that I can see someone who is supposedly successful screwing up his life this much.

If this goes to trial, we might also discover if any notices went to MM and MT by error concerning their divorce. I myself think that it was caught in time (like the next day) for any notice to be mailed. Now, if the court had their emails, notices may have been sent to those in error. In fact, if this is the case, maybe, that's how the error was discovered, by either MM or MT calling in and alerting them to the error.

All speculation on my part.
 
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Yes but thats the night of the murder , does anything put him in the house on the 6th

Perhaps nothing more than the probability he didn't sit in the fishbowl back yard for 3 hours squaring up his head.

Anything he may have breached, jury-rigged, installed would have disappeared with him on December 30th.

So so so much premeditation and planning.

So so so many opportunities to self-correct... starting with Do No Harm...

JMO
 
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I suspect someone knows why Monique went back to the hotel. I think that she would call someone like her mother or sister and talk about what was so upsetting that she left the game.

It doesn't make sense to me to leave his phone at a hospital cot room but exit himself where he was surely picked up by footage having him leave and return. Surely, the footage is kept long enough for police to go through it. Perhaps, it is as you say, he figured that he wouldn't be that much of a suspect.

Another thing that just amazes me is that he left casings behind. I don't care if I have to scour beneath the bed, I'm going to find all of the casings for the gun. Also, why on earth would you keep the gun, the silencer and the fake license plates?

None of it makes sense to me unless this guy had been stealing drugs somehow from the hospital and was hooked on drugs. That's the only way that I can see someone who is supposedly successful screwing up his life this much.
-Narcissists think they are smart and everyone else is stupid. So he most likely thought he was clever enough to get away with the crime.
-Add possible drug abuse which impairs judgement. And if the drugs he might have been doing caused aggressive thoughts and feelings, then he was obsessed with the murder and nothing would stop him.
-His narcissism and (possible) drug abuse blinded him to reality. He was an amateur and kept making amateur mistakes. Based his decisions on books and movies, not real world LE.
 

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