GUILTY OK - 4 dead, many injured when car crashed into crowd at OSU homecoming parade

[sonjay]

Can I add that driving through a barricade might seem consistent with a medical issue like seizure but driving AROUND a barricade paints a different picture? I don't think she had a medical event of any kind and if she did the hospital would have caught that while she was there giving blood and/ or noticed her since then needing medical attention. I'm ready to rule anything medical out completely. Mooo

I'm with you. I don't think that driving around a barricade, or attempting to drive around a barricade, is consistent with any sudden medical event -- blackout, seizure, diabetic coma, or anything else.

So far we've got dui, fired from her job, suicidal, history of mental illness, family history of bipolar, medical emergency.... It sounds to me like they're throwing everything out there to see what flies with John Q. Public. Whatever plays best with their mock juries will be the defense they use in court. JMO.

 

[bluesneakers]

M.news.ok.com (nobody knew whst was going on) has quotes by her lawyer with interesting info I haven't seen anywhere else, including 2 suicide attempts and serious mental illness in the family..

M.news.ok.com takes me to a movie site.

 

[sonjay]

M.news.ok.com takes me to a movie site.

I think this would be the correct link:
http://www.oklahoman.com/nobody-kne...ter-osu-crash-eyewitness-says/article/5455972

Boyfriend says she has diabetes, according to the lawyer, but the arrest affidavit says she denied having any medical problems "other than past treatment for mental health related issues." If she really has diabetes, why would she not tell them at the jail?

 

[JeannaT]

Rereading the affidavit, it states officers were on the scene due to the nature of the parade and the way it's worded, it sounds as if they got her directly out of the drivers seat.

"Due to the incident occurring during a parade event officers were on the scene immediately. In the vehicle the defendant was found to be in the driver's seat, and was the sole occupant of the vehicle."

That caught my eye too. It's not important in the grand scheme of things, but the witness who said they had to subdue her and hold her down until police arrived is in direct conflict with the officer stating she was seated in her car when they arrived, immediately.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Thanks for posting the original report! So she was in the car, not out, and I didn't see anything about a field sobriety test.

CNN report: His client had a standard field sobriety test, he said. "Her poor performance" on that test led officers to believe she was "impaired," he said.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/us/okl...ar-into-crowd/

According to information posted up-thread (#319), OK "field sobriety" test doesn't necessarily include breathalyzer. At some point, Adacia got out of the car or was removed from her vehicle. Maybe LE asked her to walk the toe-to-toe straight line and determined that she was impaired.

 

[bluesneakers]

This seems to be hearsay, it's not in the affidavit. It appears they arrested her without problem.

I agree. We're going to need Governor Fallin to link to a MSM source.

 

[JeannaT]

I think this would be the correct link:
http://www.oklahoman.com/nobody-kne...ter-osu-crash-eyewitness-says/article/5455972

Boyfriend says she has diabetes, according to the lawyer, but the arrest affidavit says she denied having any medical problems "other than past treatment for mental health related issues." If she really has diabetes, why would she not tell them at the jail?

Interesting. She hadn't slept for 3 days prior to the wreck, but her boyfriend "got her up" and off to work that morning.

Which is true?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

NANCY GRACE

Car Plows Into OSU Homecoming Parade/Baby Dies at Michigan Day Care. Aired 8-9:00p ET

Aired October 26, 2015 - 20:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news right now. Four dead, including a 2-year-old. An Oklahoma State University homecoming parade turns into chaos, killing four, injuring 47 others. Quote, "People were flying everywhere" when Stillwater resident 25-year-old Adacia Chambers, allegedly DUI behind the wheel, plows through a motorcycle, and then into the homecoming parade crowd. Bombshell right now. As we go to air, her lawyer says she, quote, "blacked out"? ...

Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.

Bombshell tonight. Four dead, including a 2-year-old, an Oklahoma State University homecoming parade turns into chaos, killing four, injuring 47 others. Quote, "People were flying everywhere" when Stillwater resident, allegedly DUI, 25-year-old Adacia Chambers behind the wheel plows through a motorcycle, then into the homecoming parade crowd. As we go to air, her lawyer says she, quote, "blacks out"?

Candace Trunzo, senior news editor, Dailymail.com -- Candace, can you just tell me what happened? Start at the beginning...

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1510/26/ng.01.html

 

[Isabelle]

I think this would be the correct link:
http://www.oklahoman.com/nobody-kne...ter-osu-crash-eyewitness-says/article/5455972

Boyfriend says she has diabetes, according to the lawyer, but the arrest affidavit says she denied having any medical problems "other than past treatment for mental health related issues." If she really has diabetes, why would she not tell them at the jail?

Part of her suicide plan? Hoping if she is not treated she will die.

 

[sonjay]

Part of her suicide plan? Hoping if she is not treated she will die.

So her suicide plan was A) go into diabetic coma, B) run over a bunch of people, C) get arrested, D) don't tell the jail about her diabetes, then finally E) die.

That's would be the weirdest suicide plan ever.

 

[jjenny]

That caught my eye too. It's not important in the grand scheme of things, but the witness who said they had to subdue her and hold her down until police arrived is in direct conflict with the officer stating she was seated in her car when they arrived, immediately.

Agree. Some witnesses appear to be making stuff up. Police say she was in the driver's seat of the car. I find that more credible.

 

[jjenny]

According to this article, he is a student at OSU.



http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crimewatch/osu-crash-suspect-s-state-of-mind-before-tragedy-still/article_b610f5c1-02f0-52dc-8184-10f7128982ac.html

So why was he going to take time off? Was he doing well in school?

 

[Hope4More]

CNN report: His client had a standard field sobriety test, he said. "Her poor performance" on that test led officers to believe she was "impaired," he said.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/us/okl...ar-into-crowd/

According to information posted up-thread (#319), OK "field sobriety" test doesn't necessarily include breathalyzer. At some point, Adacia got out of the car or was removed from her vehicle. Maybe LE asked her to walk the toe-to-toe straight line and determined that she was impaired.

The police report does not mention a field sobriety test. According to the report she was found in her car, removed, handcuffed, taken in and tested afterwards.

 

[nrdsb4]

So her suicide plan was A) go into diabetic coma, B) run over a bunch of people, C) get arrested, D) don't tell the jail about her diabetes, then finally E) die.

That's would be the weirdest suicide plan ever.

I agree.

 

[Hope4More]

Interesting. She hadn't slept for 3 days prior to the wreck, but her boyfriend "got her up" and off to work that morning.

Which is true?

I think the media folk read each other's pieces and repeat lines, and each time the original quote gets just a little looser and sloppier.


Sounds like she had been having some difficult sleeping on each of the proceeding 3 nights, not that she hadn't slept at all.

Her BF seems pretty baffled about what wrong that AM because she seemed OK to him and acted normal from up to out the door.

But there are little hints in there too. The BF says she "doesn't handle stress well." BF and family say she was OK , even happy, but also uncertain and anxious and had been suicidal on and off for years.

I'm sure they are all struggling to make sense of what happened too, and are likely at least somewhat in denial and shock.

 

[Hope4More]

M.news.ok.com takes me to a movie site.

Glad someone else gave the link. Sorry. I'm a geriatric incompetent smartphone user and can't figure out how to post links from this thing no matter how many times I try.

 

[Detective Klimpt]

The police report does not mention a field sobriety test. According to the report she was found in her car, removed, handcuffed, taken in and tested afterwards.

Yeah well, there you go. Has a police report never left out any information? AFAIK, there has to be some kind of charge in order to get handcuffed and arrested. In her case, and based on what has been written, that initial charge was DUI. Does a police report have to include every split second detail of what transpired?

 

[Detective Klimpt]

I think the media folk read each other's pieces and repeat lines, and each time the original quote gets just a little looser and sloppier. <respectfully snipped>

Clearly without question this is true. I look for quotes, and that is what I link.

As for finding Chambers in her car, maybe she tried to leave the car and someone kept her there until LE arrived.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

The police report does not mention a field sobriety test. According to the report she was found in her car, removed, handcuffed, taken in and tested afterwards.

AC's lawyer alleged in CNN interview that his client was given a sobriety test at the scene that she apparently failed.

Too many inconsistencies in what is being alleged/reported regarding this incident. Guess we'll have to wait until Prosecutor files official charges. :moo:

 

[JeannaT]

Yeah well, there you go. Has a police report never left out any information? AFAIK, there has to be some kind of charge in order to get handcuffed and arrested. In her case, and based on what has been written, that initial charge was DUI. Does a police report have to include every split second detail of what transpired?

Well, I can't imagine performing a field sobriety test on a woman while ambulances and helicopters were racing to the scene to transport the dead and severely injured. Get her out of there NOW would be the priority.

In a wreck with injuries, a blood test is required by law so there's no reason to even perform the field sobriety test. She has to be tested, by law. The purpose of a field sobriety test is to decide whether to proceed with further testing. There was no choice here.