Found Deceased OK - Nancy Davis, 55, drove off the road, car found, Seminole, 24 Feb 2022

[mlhenn]

Looks like LE seems to think non homicide, since they say they won't answer questions and all information will only be provided to family.

Investigators treating death of Seminole woman as ‘suspicious’

Investigators said they are treating the death of the missing Seminole woman as ‘suspicious.’

"He didn't get her any help the night she came up missing," Palmer said.

The sheriff’s office is waiting to get the official cause of death from the medical examiner and that will determine how they continue the investigation.

"It’s not the ending that we wanted, but it's the ending we kind of saw," Palmer said.

 

[buffalogal]

Condolences to Nancy's family. At least everyone now has closure.

But do they though? It's been cponfirmed that she's dead, but they don't know how or why.

So is the current LE theory that Nancy actually walked from her car to this location at Wewoka Creek?

I hope not because TBH that "theory" beggers belief. The creek is 600 feet to the north of where the car was found. Her home was to the east and back south. (the pill bottle and the first dog were found 1/3 of a mile east of where the car was left.) If she was trying to get home, changed her mind and attempted to make it back to the car, there is no reason she would have been headed north. Wewoka Creek is closer to where the car was left than where LEO marked the road as the location where the pill bottle and the first dog were found. But before you can get to the south bank of the creek there is a stout barbed wire fence in good repair with a sturdy welded wire gate and surround blocking access from the road. If she told her husband she was struggling to climb out of a ditch (or up the hill that leads to her home; the media has been oddly fuzzy and annoyingly cavalier about changing that detail), it's doubtful she was going to be climbing over or crawling under any fences, certainly not without snagging that poncho. On Google maps, you can see the last piece of the old highway that leads from the corner where the car was found north to Wewoka Creek. But again, she would have to get through the fence and a drop off from when the road was cut off after they opened the new highway before she could be walking on the old pavement (that would have been iced over) on her way to the creek. Her home was to the east and then back south. If she had been on Park Heights Road headed to the car , there is no reason she would have been going north.

OTOH, on the *north* side of Wewoka creek, there is a pecan grove that has become a city park with parking, short grass, and most importantly, no fence blocking access to the creek. Do I think she walked herself into the creek from either side of the bank? No, I do not, and I would not be surprised if it was determined she had been dropped into the creek bed from the park side.

 

[WingsOverTX]

But do they though? It's been cponfirmed that she's dead, but they don't know how or why.





I hope not because TBH that "theory" beggers belief. The creek is 600 feet to the north of where the car was found. Her home was to the east and back south. (the pill bottle and the first dog were found 1/3 of a mile east of where the car was left.) If she was trying to get home, changed her mind and attempted to make it back to the car, there is no reason she would have been headed north. Wewoka Creek is closer to where the car was left than where LEO marked the road as the location where the pill bottle and the first dog were found. But before you can get to the south bank of the creek there is a stout barbed wire fence in good repair with a sturdy welded wire gate and surround blocking access from the road. If she told her husband she was struggling to climb out of a ditch (or up the hill that leads to her home; the media has been oddly fuzzy and annoyingly cavalier about changing that detail), it's doubtful she was going to be climbing over or crawling under any fences, certainly not without snagging that poncho. On Google maps, you can see the last piece of the old highway that leads from the corner where the car was found north to Wewoka Creek. But again, she would have to get through the fence and a drop off from when the road was cut off after they opened the new highway before she could be walking on the old pavement (that would have been iced over) on her way to the creek. Her home was to the east and then back south. If she had been on Park Heights Road headed to the car , there is no reason she would have been going north.

OTOH, on the *north* side of Wewoka creek, there is a pecan grove that has become a city park with parking, short grass, and most importantly, no fence blocking access to the creek. Do I think she walked herself into the creek from either side of the bank? No, I do not, and I would not be surprised if it was determined she had been dropped into the creek bed from the park side.

Great thoughts and details in your post. I have bolded the info about the location of the pill bottle and first dog because I am curious about the source for this. If it was posted upthread, I missed it. Was it marked on a map or in a video clip?

Could you post a Google Earth or other visual marking where that fence & gate are located? Do you know this because you live in the area?

Thanks so much. I appreciate your feedback. It is very odd her body was found north of her car & home IMO.

ETA: I found the fence & gate on Google Street View. Which make me wonder how far east along the creek she was found. Street view has me shaking my head because at night in those cold, icy conditions, how did she end up anywhere on that side of her assumed route home.? JMO but this is weird.

 

[buffalogal]

LEO had yellow police tape tied to a branch where they found the pill bottle and the dog. (it has since been removed) The tape was shown in the news reports, and a reporter who had been there that first morning confirmed that's what it was marking. On the satellite view of Park Heights Road on Google maps, there's a tiny square fenced off about 500 feet to the west of NS3565 rd on the north side. When you zoom in, you can see the roof of a shed almost in the middle. The police tape was across the road from that place.

 

[buffalogal]

This is a blurb from local Oklahoma station KFOR: Seminole County Sheriff's Office: Body of Oklahoma woman missing since February found
“He was on his way home from work and on his way, he had found Nancy’s vehicle,” said Undersheriff Matt Haley, with the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office. “But couldn’t find his wife.” ...
“The roadways, the field, everything out there was just solid ice,” said Haley. “There were tire impressions in the field, presumably. [It] looks like she was attempting to get back out of the field. It was an incline that she was having to go up and we don’t believe the vehicle was able to make that incline with the conditions.”

"Presumably" there were tire impressions in the field? Even though the field was covered in snow and ice, we have been told several times that there were clear impressions of someone shuffling their feet around the car, but "presumably" there were tire tracks? Did anyone actually see the skidmarks or tire tracks leading directly from the road to her car, or did they just assume that's what must have happened because that was the story they had been told? For the car to have come to standstill where it was, in the direction it was facing, (opposite to the way she would have been traveling), it was either spinning or it was backed in and parked.
By the next morning, there would have been at least four sets of tire impressions in the field because the Sheriff's Department pulled in and parked immedietly to the west of where her car was found. Also, there is not an appreciable incline between where her car was parked and the road, in fact, there is a level driveway right in front of her car. This is a partial screen shot of Google Earth, dated 2012, and you can clearly see the driveway. I marked where her car was found with a pink dot, the LEO's vehicles in blue.

 

[MimosaMornings]

What was the medication her husband needed that required her to go out in such weather? (Recent stroke too)

 

[WingsOverTX]

This is a blurb from local Oklahoma station KFOR: Seminole County Sheriff's Office: Body of Oklahoma woman missing since February found
“He was on his way home from work and on his way, he had found Nancy’s vehicle,” said Undersheriff Matt Haley, with the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office. “But couldn’t find his wife.” ...
“The roadways, the field, everything out there was just solid ice,” said Haley. “There were tire impressions in the field, presumably. [It] looks like she was attempting to get back out of the field. It was an incline that she was having to go up and we don’t believe the vehicle was able to make that incline with the conditions.”

"Presumably" there were tire impressions in the field? Even though the field was covered in snow and ice, we have been told several times that there were clear impressions of someone shuffling their feet around the car, but "presumably" there were tire tracks? Did anyone actually see the skidmarks or tire tracks leading directly from the road to her car, or did they just assume that's what must have happened because that was the story they had been told? For the car to have come to standstill where it was, in the direction it was facing, (opposite to the way she would have been traveling), it was either spinning or it was backed in and parked.
By the next morning, there would have been at least four sets of tire impressions in the field because the Sheriff's Department pulled in and parked immedietly to the west of where her car was found. Also, there is not an appreciable incline between where her car was parked and the road, in fact, there is a level driveway right in front of her car. This is a partial screen shot of Google Earth, dated 2012, and you can clearly see the driveway. I marked where her car was found with a pink dot, the LEO's vehicles in blue.

EXCELLENT POINTS.

Could you please mark this map or add a map to show where the pill bottle was found? I am still unclear but appreciate you adding detail about the yellow tape in a previous post.

Also, did you know ND personally? If so, would you consider becoming a Verified Insider here so you can share your personal knowledge without having to link to MSM?

My apologies if this question is too intrusive.

I hope that cause of death & more details are released by LE. The sheriff says the circumstances are suspicious.

We know her husband has a lawyer. Does anyone know if he was working as usual in the weeks after she went missing and since she was found?

 

[buffalogal]

What matters is that the story that she was at the casino that night should be easy to check out because that casino has security cameras all over the parking lot and at the entrances. What time do they show her arriving and leaving? How confidant are LEO that there is a positive ID of her on the video? Did any other employees see her, especially any that knew her? What time (and where) was her phone last used? The phone records matter, not just her calls to him, and whether she might have tried to call anyone else, but how many times (and when) did he attempt to call her back. Was there anyone else he might have contacted before he reported her missing the next morning? It matters that her husband didn't call for someone to check on her when he says he he knew she was having trouble and she didn't answer the phone, and it *really* matters why she didn't just call someone herself. Answer: She was unable to ask for help at that point; again, why? We've been told because the battery went dead or maybe she turned off her phone. (As you do when you are physically impaired and stranded on foot in a ice storm in the middle of the night. /sarcasm)

It matters what time her husband left for and then showed up at work and what time he got off. How long was it after he got off work before he notified LEO that she was missing? Why didn't he contact the media and put out a general plea for her safe return even during that first 48 hours when the investigators believed "someone" must have picked her up because they could not find her in the field or along the route to her home? How did she up in a creek that is both out of the way and would have been difficult to get to from Park Heights Road, and what side and how far from the creek were her bag and purse found; *those* are important details that I'm sure LEO is checking out that are not being released. Yet. But will be soon, I hope.

 

[buffalogal]

I did not know Nancy Davis personally. We had met several times as she voted at the precinct near me and I remember her. I am not far from Park Heights Road and I drive it frequently and was there yesterday taking pictures of Wewoka Creek from rthe park.

Per your request, another map: Pink is where the car was found, yellow is where LEO had marked that they'd found the pill bottle, purple is circling her home, and Wewoka Creek is underlined in orange.

 

[WingsOverTX]

I did not know Nancy Davis personally. We had met several times as she voted at the precinct near me and I remember her. I am not far from Park Heights Road and I drive it frequently and was there yesterday taking pictures of Wewoka Creek from rthe park.

Per your request, another map: Pink is where the car was found, yellow is where LEO had marked that they'd found the pill bottle, purple is circling her home, and Wewoka Creek is underlined in orange.

Excellent map!

That pill bottle location does not fit with the LE presumption that she could not have traveled on foot very far that night.

Her car being left as though it was backed into the trees in the opposite direction of her presumed travel back toward her home is also very odd.

I hope we get some more clues or answers soon, including location of her remains. The story line as 1st presented in media accounts is not adding up!

MOO

 

[buffalogal]

Yea, about that pill bottle; I think that was thrown from a car. If she had dropped it walking along her dog would have continued walking with her rather than hunker down and wait.

 

[MntnHiker]

Thank you @buffalogal for that map. That is immensely helpful!

This whole case is so suspicious to me. The location of the pill bottle, as well as Nancy's body in relation to her home doesn't make any sense to me. The only way it would make sense where she ended up IMO is if she was completely out of it and not in her right mind for whatever reason and wandered off in the wrong direction.

 

[buffalogal]

I've heard that people can get delirious when they are suffering from hypothermia, and I'm sure someone is banking on LEO thinking she just got "confused" and lost. But the thing is a person suffering from hypothermia will also be uncoordinated and will tire easily to the point that they will just sit or lie down anywhere and fall asleep. Wandering off in the wrong direction is one thing; climbing into a bar ditch, over or under a tight barbed wire fence, through a second, deeper bar ditch, across a field, through heavily wooded area and down 10 plus feet into a creek bed while carrying your purse without leaving so much as one strand of that red poncho hung on anything, or *any* kind of scent trail that a trained dog could find, but also somehow dropping your medicine and leaving one of your own dogs on the other side of the road? (ensuring that searchers will waste weeks looking in the wrong place) Nah. If you ask me, that did not happen.

 

[WingsOverTX]

ND is the main story on the "Seminole Producer" today but it is pay-walled.

If anyone here has access, would you please outline the main points and/or any new information it contains.

Thanks much!

 

[buffalogal]

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ND is the main story on the "Seminole Producer" today but it is pay-walled.

If anyone here has access, would you please outline the main points and/or any new information it contains.

Thanks much!

Honestly, it's not worth paying 50¢ for the paper copy to read it. It does say in the first line that she was found by the Christian Aid Ministries Search and Rescue Team. Give credit where credit is due) Other than that, although it's the main story, prominently displayed directly beneath the masthead, it's as if someone just cut and pasted random bits from previous editions, but they were determined to leave out any details, even already well publicized ones. It says she "spoke with her husband by cell phone around 11:00PM before she attempted to walk to her home...", but does not mention she did not answer when he said he called her back or that he waited 6 hours to contact LEO about her. It mentions finding the pill bottle, but says "She had been recovering from a recent stroke and needs this medication". (present tense) It also repeats verbatim the facebook announcement from the Seminole County Sheriff Dept, including the statement that they will only release details to the family, and they will not be answering any questions. So, nothing about whether her cell phone has been recovered, or what the phone records revealed, or where exactly in the creek she was found, or how they managed to overlook her for three weeks, not even one word about that red poncho.

The last part of the story, continued on page 10, does not mention her at all, and reads like it might have came from a website for the Search and Rescue Team; in what ways they are able to assist, what kind of equipment they have, that all 23 members of the Oklahoma team are from conservative christian communities who are "passionate about helping others", and that they do not charge for their services, which is nice. I saw them out there looking at least twice, including that Saturday morning.

But they're still waiting to see what the ME finds, and then I hope LEO will have something to say about it.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Honestly, it's not worth paying 50¢ for the paper copy to read it. It does say in the first line that she was found by the Christian Aid Ministries Search and Rescue Team. Give credit where credit is due) Other than that, although it's the main story, prominently displayed directly beneath the masthead, it's as if someone just cut and pasted random bits from previous editions, but they were determined to leave out any details, even already well publicized ones. It says she "spoke with her husband by cell phone around 11:00PM before she attempted to walk to her home...", but does not mention she did not answer when he said he called her back or that he waited 6 hours to contact LEO about her. It mentions finding the pill bottle, but says "She had been recovering from a recent stroke and needs this medication". (present tense) It also repeats verbatim the facebook announcement from the Seminole County Sheriff Dept, including the statement that they will only release details to the family, and they will not be answering any questions. So, nothing about whether her cell phone has been recovered, or what the phone records revealed, or where exactly in the creek she was found, or how they managed to overlook her for three weeks, not even one word about that red poncho.

The last part of the story, continued on page 10, does not mention her at all, and reads like it might have came from a website for the Search and Rescue Team; in what ways they are able to assist, what kind of equipment they have, that all 23 members of the Oklahoma team are from conservative christian communities who are "passionate about helping others", and that they do not charge for their services, which is nice. I saw them out there looking at least twice, including that Saturday morning.

But they're still waiting to see what the ME finds, and then I hope LEO will have something to say about it.

Thank you very much for your feedback about the article. I really wasn't expecting anything new, but you never know!

Yes, let's hope info from the ME will prompt a response from LEO. If anything criminal happened to cause Nancy's death, it is important that is revealed and justice is pursued.

MOO

 

[buffalogal]

... I really wasn't expecting anything new, but you never know!

It seems especially disappointing because the Seminole Producer is normally very good to discover and print details of an important story.

 

[AC's Grandma]

It seems especially disappointing because the Seminole Producer is normally very good to discover and print details of an important story.

I think there will be more details once the autopsy is complete and LE finishes their investigation of phone records, etc.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Investigators said they are treating the death of the missing Seminole woman as ‘suspicious.’

Investigators in Seminole County said they found her body Saturday morning using a drone. They spotted a purse in Wewoka Creek from the sky.

"Money, credit cards with the name Nancy Davis was still in there," Palmer said.

Her body was found nearby. Originally, the sheriff’s office said Davis stopper her car just south of Seminole near a bridge and walked down 1240 Road in the middle of a storm.

"This same area where we are at is where she called her husband at 10:40 and said she couldn't make it up the hill because of the ice," Palmer said.

Palmer said it is about a half of a mile from where she got out of her car to where she was found.

Investigators treating death of Seminole woman as ‘suspicious’

It breaks my heart that she called her husband and told him she couldn't make it up the hill because of the ice and yet no help came.

 

[WingsOverTX]

It breaks my heart that she called her husband and told him she couldn't make it up the hill because of the ice and yet no help came.

I'm not sure we know what happened that night.

The main evidence made public so far appears to have been reported by her husband, who has lawyered up and is apparently not helping with the investigation.

The car's position, the pill bottle location, the dogs being loose & possibility of her body being found in a location with fencing she would have to cross on a cold dark icy night are all suspicious.

Due to her recent stoke, ND was vulnerable in many ways IMO. Many people on social media have described her as a sweet lady.

How sad her life ended as it did.
MOO