Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

[Deepinthought52]

Yeah, right there with you all in wondering who the heck this other guy is and why he's not in jail right now. So strange.

They may need to collect more evidence on him to be able to hold him and show involvement. JMO.

 

[Error505]

I do think it's possible that Grice is cooperating NOW with LE. I think he could have backed out and maybe he didn't go that day after all and once things went down, he went into hiding.. or he played along for a while and then he came forward to say what he knew and he kept an eye on them AFTER the murders and BEFORE the arrests. That I can believe.. he's MIA now because he's in PC. I think he was young and new to the group and it's more likely he backed out once he realized they were serious and people were going to die..

I can go with this! Sounds like a very logical explanation of a missing person named in murder/kidnapping affidavits!
MOO

 

[realanastasia]

4 charged with murder and kidnapping of Kansas women in Oklahoma

The four people accused in the murder and kidnapping of two Kansas women made their initial court appearance on Wednesday..

www.ksn.com

Adams, Cullum, and Cole Twombly will hire their own attorneys. Cora Twombly said she is indigent, so the court will appoint an attorney to represent her.
Wow. So her husband is going to hire an attorney and just throw her to the wolves?

He may be angry (to say the least) that she spilled the beans to her 16-year old daughter (his step-daughter, per the arrest affidavit) who subsequently contacted LE…

 

[Zoe]

Sheriff commenting after today’s arraignment.

VIDEO: Texas County Sheriff speaks after arraignment of 4 murder suspects

Texas County Sheriff speaks after arraignment of 4 murder suspects

www.newschannel10.com

 

[Sincerely]

I've been active in the Oklahoma Republican Party for decades. I can assure you that no party leaders will be running to this woman's defense. Not at all. She does not represent Oklahoma Republicans.

I am in total agreement here.

 

[Error505]

My understanding is that Grice was the newest to the group and probably the least influential.

Grice was the youngest iirc.

 

[*LD*]

It might depend on what level he was controlled from, and the level he reported to. And it's interests in a higher catch. Or simply failure to anticipate the murder's occurring that soon. According to "spy" stories, sometimes operations conflict with the daily activities of the innocent. Different operations may have different goals, with "the greater good" being used as a reason for one to get it's way over the other. Just mentally review some of the publicly known fiascos of or intelligence services. Recent example, the "Fast and Furious" op...

Yes, the custody dispute would be small-time drama that interfered with a larger operation and target.

 

[Error505]

4 charged with murder and kidnapping of Kansas women in Oklahoma

The four people accused in the murder and kidnapping of two Kansas women made their initial court appearance on Wednesday..

www.ksn.com

Adams, Cullum, and Cole Twombly will hire their own attorneys. Cora Twombly said she is indigent, so the court will appoint an attorney to represent her.
Wow. So her husband is going to hire an attorney and just throw her to the wolves?

Cora may be thrown to the wolves, but I think they’ll all come out smelling about the same! Other than saving themselves from the death penalty, they’re not going to get much else regardless of having a PD or hired atty. MOO. 2 charges of 1st degree Murder + 2 counts of kidnapping, I see little defense for their charges. MOO

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

Family of murdered mothers “lose it” in court.

‘F*cking B*tch!’: Fam of Slain Kansas Moms Lose It in Court

The enraged relatives reportedly had to be held back as four people arrested in the moms’ deaths showed up for an arraignment.

www.thedailybeast.com

** editing to mention source pre-approved by Tricia **

 

[Artis]

Did anyone ever determine who was in the "big, black truck" that was following the NewsNation crew?

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Wow, I hadn't seen that. Creepy.

 

[PommyMommy]

APR 17, 2024

4 charged with murder and kidnapping of Kansas women in Oklahoma

The four people accused in the murder and kidnapping of two Kansas women made their initial court appearance on Wednesday..

www.ksn.com

[...]

The judge ordered the four suspects to be held without bond, citing that “proof of evidence or presumption of guilt is great.”

The district attorney said he has not decided yet if he will pursue the death penalty against the suspects.

Adams, Cullum, and Cole Twombly will hire their attorneys. Cora Twombly said she cannot afford an attorney, so the court will appoint one to represent her.

The next court appearance in the case is May 15 at 9 a.m.

The District Attorney said a trial could happen in the spring or fall of 2025.

 

[Cool Cats]

See perp walk into court

‘How can you hate somebody so much’: 4 suspects linked to Kansas women’s murders appear in court

The four suspects charged with the murders of Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley are scheduled to make their first court appearance today.

www.newschannel10.com

 

[Warwick1991]

APR 17, 2024

4 charged with murder and kidnapping of Kansas women in Oklahoma

The four people accused in the murder and kidnapping of two Kansas women made their initial court appearance on Wednesday..

www.ksn.com

[...]

The judge ordered the four suspects to be held without bond, citing that “proof of evidence or presumption of guilt is great.”

The district attorney said he has not decided yet if he will pursue the death penalty against the suspects.

Adams, Cullum, and Cole Twombly will hire their attorneys. Cora Twombly said she cannot afford an attorney, so the court will appoint one to represent her.

The next court appearance in the case is May 15 at 9 a.m.

The District Attorney said a trial could happen in the spring or fall of 2025.

The 4 suspects are fools anyway, but if Cora alone doesn't have a private attorney, she'll be in a worse position than the other 3. Her attorney, if he/she has any sense, will urge the client to make a deal as soon as possible, and testify against the others.

 

[PommyMommy]

See perp walk into court

‘How can you hate somebody so much’: 4 suspects linked to Kansas women’s murders appear in court

The four suspects charged with the murders of Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley are scheduled to make their first court appearance today.

www.newschannel10.com

Noting:

The prosecutor says the suspects lured Butler and Kelley to Highway 95 and Road L and took them to another location, where they died from their injuries.

He also said the planning of this murder went from February 13 to March 30...

 

[Artis]

I guess TA was elected last year as the chair for the Cimarron County GOP
Suspect in death of 2 Kansas women was Cimarron County GOP chair
From the article
State Sen. Nathan Dahm, who is the chairman of the Oklahoma GOP, spoke out on Tuesday on the tragic situation and the suspect's position. While the Oklahoma Republican Party has no personal relationship with Adams or anyone involved in the senseless crime, they do know of Adams' role, according to Dahm.

Ashleigh (sp) Banfiled just had someone on who said Cimarron county GOP convention would have just have a handful people show and she may have elected chair by three people. She (Ashleigh) also also said nobody knows where Grice is and he hasn't been seen around.

 

[PommyMommy]

DID YOU MURDER THOSE WOMEN? “No.”That was Cole Twombly’s response to me today - as he and three other suspects charged with two Kansas women’s murders, appeared in court today.

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[Gae]

Ashleigh (sp) Banfiled just had someone on who said Cimarron county GOP convention would have just have a handful people show and she may have elected chair by three people. She (Ashleigh) also also said nobody knows where Grice is and he hasn't been seen around.

I was elected as GOP precinct chair by just 6 votes. I'm not kidding! lol
No one wanted the position, so I ran for it. Six people showed up and voted for me.

 

[shefner]

DID YOU MURDER THOSE WOMEN? “No.”That was Cole Twombly’s response to me today - as he and three other suspects charged with two Kansas women’s murders, appeared in court today.

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Right. Like we trust a murderer to tell the truth?

 

[neesaki]

Wow, I hadn't seen that. Creepy.

A lot of human trafficking goes on there. In rural Oklahoma? SMH

 

[CuriousCricket]

Right. Like we trust a murderer to tell the truth?

Maybe he means he did not deliver the final blow to either, so he's able to feel innocent.