Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

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More info from ME about Jillian Kelley's injuries.
Horrifying.

From the linked article: "The Medical Examiner said in the report that Kelley was most likely dead before being placed in the freezer."

Most likely dead.

I had been afraid that perhaps Jillian and Veronica were buried alive.

Etiher way, it's a terrible, horrifying crime.

Holding Jillian, Veronica, and their loved ones in the light.
 
Where was TA?
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I believe - and someone please correct me if I have it wrong - that the big kahuna herself, Tifany Adams, was not present during the slaughtering of Veronica and Jilian. I think she was with her grandkids, appearing only "remotely," so to speak, by phone.....
snipped for focus @Muddy K
Not correcting you, because IDK where TA was at time of homicides. Tho MSM may have reported it, I just don't remember seeing/hearing that TA was elsewhere.

Curious about whether you recall any MSM on this, maybe have a link? Anyone?

Or was it more of an impression?
 
Where was TA?

snipped for focus @Muddy K
Not correcting you, because IDK where TA was at time of homicides. Tho MSM may have reported it, I just don't remember seeing/hearing that TA was elsewhere.

Curious about whether you recall any MSM on this, maybe have a link? Anyone?

Or was it more of an impression?
I do not remember seeing a MSM who was or wasn'' present during the murders. I think I assume TA was present and either participated or watched.
 
I believe Tifany was present (I can't think she wouldn't want to watch the slaughter). Veronica would likely have known Tad, as he was her former mother-in-law's boyfriend. Might have known the Twombleys, too, since they seem to be friends with Tifany.

I do not remember seeing a MSM who was or wasn'' present during the murders. I think I assume TA was present and either participated or watched.
Where was TA?

snipped for focus @Muddy K
Not correcting you, because IDK where TA was at time of homicides. Tho MSM may have reported it, I just don't remember seeing/hearing that TA was elsewhere.

Curious about whether you recall any MSM on this, maybe have a link? Anyone?

Or was it more of an impression?
I will do some digging on this question, but I don't easily believe that a narcissistic ringleader of TA's ilk has the courage to do the deed herself, or even watch it, when she has fawning minions perfecty willing to do it for her.

IMO, calling the shots but not firing the shots is a classic MO of vile human beings like her.
 
I will do some digging on this question, but I don't easily believe that a narcissistic ringleader of TA's ilk has the courage to do the deed herself, or even watch it, when she has fawning minions perfecty willing to do it for her.

IMO, calling the shots but not firing the shots is a classic MO of vile human beings like her.
I do not remember seeing a MSM who was or wasn'' present during the murders. I think I assume TA was present and either participated or watched.

IIRC, the timeline of the victims arriving their destination and being ambushed by the assailants had TA collecting her grandchildren who were at a sleepover. I believe the sleepover was all part of TA's alibi for the date/time of the murders. JMO
 
Anyone have link(s) to the PCAs for arrests of TA & The Misfits.

TYVM.

By Court Order, the docs for the case are only available at the Court Clerk's Office. Some of the local MSM have obtained the docs from the Office and the same were embedded in their articles but we don't have a MEDIA Thread. They came out around 4/12/24 per the docket entry below so I'd start with articles from around that period.



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[COLOR=000000]AFFIDAVIT OF PROBABLE CAUSE FOR ARREST WARRANT - J. OTT, OSBI[/COLOR]
Document Available at Court Clerk's Office
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If this was supposed to make me feel better--it failed. Of course I'm glad Jillian likely didn't suffer long, but to me, her death was still horrific...

“Given the nature of Mrs. Kelley’s injuries, including a devastating upper cervical spinal cord injury, it is my opinion that her death was very rapid as she would have likely not only lost her ability to move her body below her head but also her ability to breathe on her own,” Dr. Celia Cobb, Oklahoma medical examiner, wrote.

 
If this was supposed to make me feel better--it failed. Of course I'm glad Jillian likely didn't suffer long, but to me, her death was still horrific...



Agree completely. IMO, Jilian's death was horrific not only because of how severely she was injured, but because the primal intent of her assailants must have been unmistakable. They were killing her.

Somewhere nearby, other actors were doing the same to Veronica.

It was a melee of inescapable horror. The autopsy tells us Jilian fought, notes the defensive wounds on her hands. She knew they were killing her. And they were winning. And they would end her life. And they did.

Why did I even write this? These murderers will face justice, all five of them, and they will be found guilty and then be imprisoned, at the least, for the rest of their lives. It's just... the torturous, terrorizing agonies suffered by Veronica and Jilian maybe can't be completely expressed within the confines of the language and procedures of a criminal trial.

The defendants should be made to face all that they did, all of it. They are guilty of so much more than kidnapping and murder. JMO.
 
Agree completely. IMO, Jilian's death was horrific not only because of how severely she was injured, but because the primal intent of her assailants must have been unmistakable. They were killing her.

Somewhere nearby, other actors were doing the same to Veronica.

It was a melee of inescapable horror. The autopsy tells us Jilian fought, notes the defensive wounds on her hands. She knew they were killing her. And they were winning. And they would end her life. And they did.

Why did I even write this? These murderers will face justice, all five of them, and they will be found guilty and then be imprisoned, at the least, for the rest of their lives. It's just... the torturous, terrorizing agonies suffered by Veronica and Jilian maybe can't be completely expressed within the confines of the language and procedures of a criminal trial.

The defendants should be made to face all that they did, all of it. They are guilty of so much more than kidnapping and murder. JMO.
There’s a part of me that thinks people like the five sickos who murdered these innocent women, and deviant RH up on Long Island, and the perv SS in Kissimmee, Fla., if found guilty should be sentenced to the same fatal treatment as what they did to their victims. An eye for an eye. Some actions go beyond the pale. But then as a civilized society, I guess we would be lowering ourselves to their criminal morality. OMO.
 
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If this was supposed to make me feel better--it failed. Of course I'm glad Jillian likely didn't suffer long, but to me, her death was still horrific...



Thank you for the link, GRT. I just wanted to note that this article contains a link to the 15-page report by the Medical Examiner. Warning: graphic, and heartbreaking to read. :(

 
Thank you for the link, GRT. I just wanted to note that this article contains a link to the 15-page report by the Medical Examiner. Warning: graphic, and heartbreaking to read. :(

Oh my.........reading this really shows how horrific this crime is. It almost looks like they were trying to decapitate her, based on the stab wounds and direction of the wounds. I'm speechless beyond the previous two sentences. My heart aches for them.
 
Thank you for the link, GRT. I just wanted to note that this article contains a link to the 15-page report by the Medical Examiner. Warning: graphic, and heartbreaking to read. :(

Thanks for the warning Pommy, I cannot read autopsy reports for the innocents.

I just hope they went as quickly and painlessly as possible and the rotten murdering scum that killed them suffer the maximum penalty allowed by law.

MOO
 
That was really disturbing to read. How can someone inflict that much pain and fury on someone they don't even know?
Agreed. And we haven't seen similar report for Ms. Butler, who has only the most remote connection with only one of the defendants; but who apparently was placed in the freezer first.
Makes one wonder just what intensity of control Ms Adams exercised over the others. The motive seems to have been entirely hers; and there was considerable planning and coordination involved in preparing for the attack and the disposal. For her to lead this group to commit such atrocities...Seems cult oriented, not simply financial or political, in terms of the motivation of the other defendants.
Thankfully those preparations were not effective in avoiding arrest and incarceration. In retrospect they seem puerile.
JMO
 
There’s a part of me that thinks people like the five sickos who murdered these innocent women, and deviant RH up on Long Island, and the perv SS in Kissimmee, Fla., if found guilty should be sentenced to the same fatal treatment as what they did to their victims. An eye for an eye. Some actions go beyond the pale. But then as a civilized society, I guess we would be lowering ourselves to their criminal morality. OMO.
Bbm.
Agreed, I've pondered the bolded bit myself.

At the end of the day, however, I'd choose a quick and pain-free exodus for monsters if allowed in that state, precisely because we are civilized.
Just ... goodbye and good riddance.
Hope that made sense.
Omo.
 
Bbm.
Agreed, I've pondered the bolded bit myself.

At the end of the day, however, I'd choose a quick and pain-free exodus for monsters if allowed in that state, precisely because we are civilized.
Just ... goodbye and good riddance.
Hope that made sense.
Omo.
I’m all for a firing squad, which was often the old way. In the days of firing squads and public hangings I think we had a lot less crime. OMO.
 
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