OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #11

[RubyRed]

Horman’s immediate family released a statement through Multnomah County sheriff’s Capt. Mike Shults, and in it they thanked everyone for their “support and interest” in finding Horman. “The outpouring of support and continued effort strengthens their hope,” the statement said.

For almost a week Shults has been the family’s liaison.

“I carry the burden of the sadness, and the pain that they’re experiencing,” he said.

He’s been with the family nearly around the clock and only went home to sleep.


http://www.katu.com/news/95985679.html

 

[awakewriter]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/multnomah_county_asks_public_t.html

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office asks people to hold back on donations for searchers right now.

 

[twzzlrgirl]

I have thought from the beginning that LE either has a pretty good idea where Kyron is, or has a good idea who led him out of the school. I also think they believe him to be alive. MOO

 

[mamaeb]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/multnomah_county_asks_public_t.html

"However, due to the sheer volume of supplies received at this point we ask the public to hold back further donations at this time. We will solicit further donations as they become needed. Again, we thank you for your generosity."

 

[ElizaAvalon]

I find it interesting that in this case they have not issued an Amber Alert.

This case is very similar to that of Somer Thompson and they issued one for her within 7 hours of her disappearance.

 

[Annazed]

I have thought from the beginning that LE either has a pretty good idea where Kyron is, or has a good idea who led him out of the school. I also think they believe him to be alive. MOO

I keep thinking that as well and hoping that it is not wishful thinking.

 

[brandi]

Yes, a lot of times family are involved. There is no indication of that in this case and until there is no one should bash this family. I think they are in enough pain right now.

Regardless, it is the rules of this site not to sleuth family or minors. Everyone that posts agreed to abide by the TOS when registering. Therefore, the TOS should be respected and followed.

I know it can be confusing when you have cases like Ethan Stacey and almost from the beginning his people were arrested and we promptly splayed them open, condemnation like I have never seen for thread after thread. Gotta take your head out of those kinds of cases for this one though. Which I've been doing to de-lurk and gripe! :twocents:

 

[awakewriter]

I sure hope the presser is a little later today because they actually can provide more information - and I hope it's good information.

 

[RubyRed]

I have thought from the beginning that LE either has a pretty good idea where Kyron is, or has a good idea who led him out of the school. I also think they believe him to be alive. MOO

In the pics on last thread, if they believe him to be alive, why are they searching such dangerous areas, ditches, quarry and a pond?

 

[nanny2five]

I think the strained relationship between the moms is very understandable.....I know without a doubt if something happens to either of my girls on someone elses watch I would have a hard time forgiving myself as well as the other person involved......my gut is telling me, this has been over a week....this is not going to turn out well. I am still holding out hope that Kyron comes home safe and sound.

i agree that strain would be understandable given the situation, and after seeing the video, i dont think that D suspects T at all. she may be on edge with T for not watching him better and i am sure T feels some guilt, as anybody would. all in all they looked pretty united to me, under the circumstances. i too am afraid the odds of him being found safe are getting slimmer and slimmer. jmo prayers for a miracle.

 

[gibby207]

They stayed with Somer Thompsons family.Somers mother and family were not involved in Somers disappearance or death.

You know, I've been thinking about Somer's disappearance in comparison a lot in the last day and I remember Somer's mother out there in the media threatening the SOB that took her, that they were going to find him and he was going to pay. Also, the community banded together and searched and had vigils. I wonder when they are going to let the community band together and aid in the search? Or if?

 

[Skully]

I find it interesting that in this case they have not issued an Amber Alert.

This case is very similar to that of Somer Thompson and they issued one for her within 7 hours of her disappearance.

I am not sure, but I think the amber alert is when they have a car involved and people can look for it on the highways.

 

[x_files]

I find it interesting that in this case they have not issued an Amber Alert.

This case is very similar to that of Somer Thompson and they issued one for her within 7 hours of her disappearance.

I agree there needs to be another type of alert system for a missing child.

But, everything about this story is getting more convoluted and bizarre and the LE seem to add to the confusion each time they have a PC.
There's very little confirmed facts, lots of substantiated rumors at this point.
Calling it an 'isolated incident' then turning around and saying no criminal investigation or no abduction only adds to the confusion.
Either LE has determined who there POI is at this point and are watching he/she like a hawk right now, or they don't want to alarm the community if it is indeed a SO at large.
If I lived in that community I would be furious to find out a SO at large is on the loose and they hid that from me. It endangers other childrens lives.
My two cents and I really hope they find Kyron alive and well today. Until then we all pray and wish for the best.

 

[CharlestonGal]

From this article:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_chronology_of_eve.html#incart_rh


Kyron Horman: Timeline of events since boy's disappearance
Published: Friday, June 11, 2010, 9:52 PM Updated: Friday, June 11, 2010, 10:04 PM

9 a.m. Someone reports seeing Kyron at the school, but investigators won't say who or where. It's the last time anyone remembers seeing the boy.




What are everyone's thoughts about this? Why not even confirm this is the last time he was seen? WHO could this person be that their identity is so "secret" (maybe a juvenile)
Or why won't LE at least confirm the WHERE this was that he was seen? I just don't get it.

I wonder if that was around the time the two teachers saw him with the SM and thought they left together?

I know people have bashed the teachers for just "assuming" he left with SM and marking him absent, but I think they must have had very good reason to believe it to the point they simply thought no more about it. I don't think they just assumed it - they believed it.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

It is so interesting that we all can watch the same thing and come away with so many different impressions.

I agree that Kyron's mom appears to be "withdrawn into" herself" She appears to be in shock and to be completely devastated. Ready to just give in to her terror and pain. That is what I see.

As for Terri, Kyron's step-mom, I don't see what you see. She is NOT "withdrawn into" herself. To me, she appears almost desperate to connect; she is seeking to connect with all three of the other family members and not one of them seems to want to connect with her. Though it could be that Desiree is too shut down to respond to Terri's gestures, I don't really think that is why she doesn't not respond to Terri. Desiree allows her husband to embrace her, to try and comfort her.

Terri moves herself very close to Desiree once Tony Young goes to the mike, Terry reaches out and touches Tony's back as he walks off and he in no way acknowledges that. She puts her arm around Desiree's shoulders, her hand almost grabbing D's neck, she lays her head upon this poor woman's shoulder and Desiree does NOT respond. She appears repulsed. This is what I see.

As a mom who possibly believed that another woman (or anyone) could be lying about what happened to my child I would behave in the same way as Desiree.

I am not accusing Terri of anything. It is only natural to wonder about her as she is the one who was last seen with Kyron; rather, she is the adult in charge of him, who says she last saw him in a hallway at his school and there are so many unanswered questions regarding her.

Where did she go after leaving the school?

Who, if anyone, saw her leave the school?

Where was the baby?

What were the errands she says she ran?

Children do not vanish off of the face of the earth. As so many people have pointed out, strangers stand out in an elementary school. The last person in the world to appear suspicious would be the parent (step-parent, caretaker, guardian) of a child; a child who then turns out to not have been seen since early morning that day at school. Truly, what other parents were there early, as Terri was?

Just questions that seem like the most natural place to start when looking for this precious little boy.

All MY OPINIONS

I had a completely different impression and, for the sake of getting a different and objective opinion > someone who doesn't follow these cases online and therefore hasn't read any rumors surrounding the SM > I asked my son (26 yr old) to watch the video and give me his impression. My son doesn't get emotional very easily but he got pretty choked up watching the parents at the PC. His opinion of Terri was that she felt responsible and heavily burdened by that and he saw her need to "connect" (as you put it) as her expressing how apologetic she was (the humbleness and humility in her face when she looked up at Desiree) to Desiree which is something you wouldn't see from someone who was guilty/involved... Neither him nor I saw anything that even remotely indicated "repulsion" on Desiree's part toward Terri! We agreed that, in response, Desiree appeared somewhat stoic and we both saw that as her desparately trying not to fall apart on national television. My son was quite touched by the fact that the parents were supporting one another, as was I. Honestly I'm very concerned for Terri and my heart goes out to her. I hope to God that at some point she's able to forgive herself as there is a little girl that still needs her Mommy. JMHO ~

 

[Wise Old Owl]

From this article:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_chronology_of_eve.html#incart_rh


Kyron Horman: Timeline of events since boy's disappearance
Published: Friday, June 11, 2010, 9:52 PM Updated: Friday, June 11, 2010, 10:04 PM

9 a.m. Someone reports seeing Kyron at the school, but investigators won't say who or where. It's the last time anyone remembers seeing the boy.




What are everyone's thoughts about this? Why not even confirm this is the last time he was seen? WHO could this person be that their identity is so "secret" (maybe a juvenile)
Or why won't LE at least confirm the WHERE this was that he was seen? I just don't get it.

Quoting my own post (kinda like talking to yourself - lol)

This is so intriguing to me.

Maybe LE not cofirming this 9 AM sighting and the by who and where is key. IF LE thinks someone has him - did this "someone" make "eye contact" with the WHO saw Kyron? If so, maybe that is why LE won't confirm this - it would "tip their hand" so to speak. As well as the "where" this sighting took place - again would "tip the hand" as to who they are looking at and also possibly put the who saw it at risk.

Thoughts?

 

[SuziQ]

I find it interesting that in this case they have not issued an Amber Alert.

This case is very similar to that of Somer Thompson and they issued one for her within 7 hours of her disappearance.

I think unbeknownst to the public at the time, they knew foul play was involved and someone took her. It's the only reason I can think of. It's really hard to get those in charge of Amber Alerts to issue one without a POI or vehicle.

 

[RubyRed]

Search crews expand, still no sign of Kyron​

Flowers and notes to Kyron Horman cover the mailbox at Skyline Elementary school Thursday morning.​

“It is our goal to get as many on the ground as possible, immediately, as certain that our time is, the clock is ticking,” he said.
​

http://www.katu.com/news/95985679.html​

 

[Ms Suzanne]

You know, I've been thinking about Somer's disappearance in comparison a lot in the last day and I remember Somer's mother out there in the media threatening the SOB that took her, that they were going to find him and he was going to pay. Also, the community banded together and searched and had vigils. I wonder when they are going to let the community band together and aid in the search? Or if?

I don't understand why everyone is so quiet about everything in Kyrons case.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't agree that they have reason to believe he is alive. I think they have HOPE, of course, but the places and the method of searching denotes to me that they are looking for his body. Also the fact they are searching in such diverse locales as near the school and family home and off on that island or wherever, tells me they are A. sticking to theory that he might be close to place last seen AND B. still following possible tips. And this, to me, means they have no idea where he is, what may have happened or if he is alive or not.

Of course they may have a POI in mind, but have no idea what this person did with Kyron and are just desperately trying to cover everyplace that POI was or may have been on that day. We all leave so many traces these days of our movements.