Found Deceased OR - Melissa Marie Jubane, 32, Beaverton, 4 September 2024 *Arrest*

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State of Oregon vs Bryce Johnathan Schubert
Case Number 24CR46624
 
  • #902
At what point will we get the full story? At trial? Pre-trial? I will be surprised if this isn't an attempted rape case and they just haven't said it yet. Are there any cases like this where the goal is simply murder? Meaning a white man kidnapping a woman who doesn't rape or attempt to rape her before he murders her? I can't think of any that are between neighbors/strangers.
 
  • #903
At what point will we get the full story? At trial? Pre-trial? I will be surprised if this isn't an attempted rape case and they just haven't said it yet. Are there any cases like this where the goal is simply murder? Meaning a white man kidnapping a woman who doesn't rape or attempt to rape her before he murders her? I can't think of any that are between neighbors/strangers.
"Meaning a white man"? Or a man of any color? Cuz I'm not understanding why color (ethnicity) has anything to do with rape, kidnapping, murder, etc.
 
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At what point will we get the full story? At trial? Pre-trial? I will be surprised if this isn't an attempted rape case and they just haven't said it yet. Are there any cases like this where the goal is simply murder? Meaning a white man kidnapping a woman who doesn't rape or attempt to rape her before he murders her? I can't think of any that are between neighbors/strangers.
We will never get the full story because Melissa is not alive to tell it. MOO
 
  • #905
OCT 18, 2024
Prosecutors filed new court papers Thursday in the case of slain nurse Melissa Jubane that say the man accused of kidnapping and murdering her — then abusing her corpse — was “deliberately cruel” to Jubane while carrying out his alleged crimes and can’t be rehabilitated.

In doing so, prosecutors are laying the legal groundwork to potentially tack years onto 27-year-old Bryce Schubert’s possible prison sentence...
 
  • #906
OCT 18, 2024
Prosecutors filed new court papers Thursday in the case of slain nurse Melissa Jubane that say the man accused of kidnapping and murdering her — then abusing her corpse — was “deliberately cruel” to Jubane while carrying out his alleged crimes and can’t be rehabilitated.

In doing so, prosecutors are laying the legal groundwork to potentially tack years onto 27-year-old Bryce Schubert’s possible prison sentence...
From your article:

legal experts say a judge could add years onto his minimum sentence. Or the state’s parole and post-prison supervision board might be less likely to free him from prison after 30 years.
 
  • #907
At what point will we get the full story? At trial? Pre-trial? I will be surprised if this isn't an attempted rape case and they just haven't said it yet. Are there any cases like this where the goal is simply murder? Meaning a white man kidnapping a woman who doesn't rape or attempt to rape her before he murders her? I can't think of any that are between neighbors/strangers.


What's the significance of "white man"? So far I have not heard anything about race being a factor here.

As for your question "Are there any cases like this where the goal is simply murder?" Yes but it is dependent on many factors. We just don't have enough info yet.

Right now, the possibilities are endless:

-Personal anger related to typical conflict between neighbors?

-Suspect was hallucinating that his victim was evil?

-Perceived injustice related to their jobs?

-Mistaken identity?

-Perceived slight from crossing paths years ago?

-Random - wrong place, wrong time?

-Suspect had urges and fantasies not unlike those that serial killers claim they've had?


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I've heard of cases involving all of those possibilities.


The one that seems to be more common is the last one. But at this point with the amount of info we have it could be anything.




ALL IMO
 
  • #908
This story reminds me a bit of Lauren Giddings. Both law students... A neighbor, obsessed...

However, her killer actually looked crazy! This guy, this man that killed poor Melissa, he looked normal... nice... Both nurses... I think we will find that he was obsessed.
 
  • #909
What did this monster do?! :mad:

OCT 18, 2024
Court documents said that Schubert was "deliberately cruel to [the] victim" and used a weapon during the alleged crime, arguing that "future efforts to rehabilitate defendant will not be successful." The filing stated that the "degree of harm or loss ... was significantly greater than typical for such an offense" and that there is a "need" to ensure public safety.
 
  • #910
@Pommy - my imagination is working overtime with this revelation. Clearly he disfigured Melissa in some way.

That's a strong statement to make so early in a case. I seem to recall something very similar being stated in the Chad Doerman case - Dad who killed his own three young sons.

I wonder how much longer they are going to withhold information, so odd!!
 
  • #911
OCT 18, 2024
Prosecutors filed new court papers Thursday in the case of slain nurse Melissa Jubane that say the man accused of kidnapping and murdering her — then abusing her corpse — was “deliberately cruel” to Jubane while carrying out his alleged crimes and can’t be rehabilitated.

In doing so, prosecutors are laying the legal groundwork to potentially tack years onto 27-year-old Bryce Schubert’s possible prison sentence...

oh no what did he do to her
poor lady
 
  • #912
What's the significance of "white man"? So far I have not heard anything about race being a factor here.

As for your question "Are there any cases like this where the goal is simply murder?" Yes but it is dependent on many factors. We just don't have enough info yet.

Right now, the possibilities are endless:

-Personal anger related to typical conflict between neighbors?

-Suspect was hallucinating that his victim was evil?

-Perceived injustice related to their jobs?

-Mistaken identity?

-Perceived slight from crossing paths years ago?

-Random - wrong place, wrong time?

-Suspect had urges and fantasies not unlike those that serial killers claim they've had?


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I've heard of cases involving all of those possibilities.


The one that seems to be more common is the last one. But at this point with the amount of info we have it could be anything.




ALL IMO

Probably some conflict multiplied by his already-not-OK state? As to “not unlike serial killer”, he could have had sadistic fantasies but then usually computer has some evidence of fantasies.
 
  • #913
@Pommy - my imagination is working overtime with this revelation. Clearly he disfigured Melissa in some way.

That's a strong statement to make so early in a case. I seem to recall something very similar being stated in the Chad Doerman case - Dad who killed his own three young sons.

I wonder how much longer they are going to withhold information, so odd!!
Oregon is known to keep a lot of information hidden until trial time. Not really odd. I rather have that then the complete show in the Delphi case.
 
  • #914
In addition to the above:

According to the document, which listed a series of “sentence enhancement factors,” Schubert used a weapon and “posed a threat of actual violence” which resulted in permanent injury to Jubane prior to her death.

Schubert had been “deliberately cruel” in the final moments of Jubane’s life.


:-(
Poor Melissa

ETA
It remains unknown whether Jubane and Schubert's relationship extended any further from the fact that they were neighbors, with the circumstances of the case still sealed
 
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In addition to the above:

According to the document, which listed a series of “sentence enhancement factors,” Schubert used a weapon and “posed a threat of actual violence” which resulted in permanent injury to Jubane prior to her death.

Schubert had been “deliberately cruel” in the final moments of Jubane’s life.


:-(
Poor Melissa
While this is talking about permanent injury from an auto accident.. it's defining what a permanent injury is. Although it might be different for someone murdered shortly after the permanent injury, but Googling sure doesn't understand that when I did the search so this is all I was able to find doing a cursory search.

A permanent injury refers to trauma, tissue damage, or other damage to your body that doesn’t fully recover.

Again... this is talking about auto accidents...

Lost limbs or amputations are perhaps the most obvious forms of permanent injuries, as are things like blindness and paralysis.

 
  • #917
IMO
Death is ultimate permanent injury.
 
  • #918
so basically he allegedly mutilated her, the resulting damage was permanent and she died of such injuries and trauma. She suffered the inimaginable and her family has to hear all this.

I am speechless in front of such psychopatic cruelty
 
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In googling around for info on “permanent injury”, it at some point led me somehow to Google’s generative AI saying this, at the top of the search page, which made me wonder if the document referred to in the news article could be talking about “perimortem” injuries:
JMO

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