OR - Militia members occupy federal building in Oregon after protest #1

[i.b.nora]

For those interested, regarding BLM and wild horses:

Oregon Public Broadcasting has a 2014 eight part series with a documentary that seems a little more balanced than other reports.

http://www.opb.org/mustangs/index.html

I have not read it all yet, nor viewed the video. (There IS a connection to Burns and Harney County though not specifically to the Bundy takeover.)

 

[human]

This is so absurd. It is wasting resources and taxpayers money all for some entitled rich boys who want more and more of taxpayer money.

It is expensive to stay in a nice accomodation in park areas.

Families should take a cue from the mm and plan nice vacations around taking over a public area and calling it their own for a two week vacation. So much cheaper.

 

[KaaBoom]

For those interested, regarding BLM and wild horses:

Oregon Public Broadcasting has a 2014 eight part series with a documentary that seems a little more balanced than other reports.

http://www.opb.org/mustangs/index.html

I have not read it all yet, nor viewed the video. (There IS a connection to Burns and Harney County though not specifically to the Bundy takeover.)

Being a strong environmentalist, I fail to even see the importance of this program. I wouldn’t lose any sleep if all these animals were rounded up. Because they are nothing but domesticated animals running wild, and they are not even native to North America. To me it is like introducing feral cats and dogs to public lands. Nobody would propose such a ridiculous thing, so why is it important to have feral horses in the wild? I don’t get it. I don't want to see the horses slaughtered, but at the same time, I don’t think it would necessarily be a bad thing if they disappeared from public lands.

 

[bluesneakers]

Being a strong environmentalist, I fail to even see the importance of this program. I wouldn’t lose any sleep if all these animals were rounded up. Because they are nothing but domesticated animals running wild, and they are not even native to North America. To me it is like introducing feral cats and dogs to public lands. Nobody would propose such a ridiculous thing, so why is it important to have feral horses in the wild? I don’t get it. I don't want to see the horses slaughtered, but at the same time, I don’t think it would necessarily be a bad thing if they disappeared from public lands.

I don't like seeing any animals slaughtered which might have something to do with the amount of contempt I feel for these repugnant bastards.

Nah, I'd still hate them even if they were trying to steal land to grow strawberries.

 

[human]

Going vegetarian! They have finally inspired me!

 

[bluesneakers]

Going vegetarian! They have finally inspired me!

:highfive:

:cow: :chicken: :lamb: :fish:

 

[pappa rob]

I'll stick to local, moron free range meat myself. Not that I eat that much meat myself. M
y poor old body would revolt if I suddenly went completely vegetarian.

 

[bluesneakers]

Oregon militia standoff: man arrested driving stolen government vehicle

The standoff with armed militia in Oregon escalated on Friday after police swooped in on one of the protesters to make the first arrest in connection with the two-week occupation of a federal wildlife refuge.

The suspect, arrested over allegedly unauthorized use of a government vehicle, was detained outside a Safeway supermarket in Burns, Oregon, some 30 miles from the Malheur national wildlife refuge.

 

[bluesneakers]

Protester arrested in Burns, accused of driving stolen refuge vehicle

The man was identified as Kenneth Medenbach, 62, of Crescent. He was arrested on suspicion of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle, a class C felony punishable by up to five years in prison.

Law enforcement officials said Medenbach is currently on federal probation stemming from an earlier militia-related episode in southern Oregon. He was to be booked into the Deschutes County Jail in Bend with bail set at $10,000, officials said.

 

[LaborDayRN]

You mean it happened? We've finally had an arrest!!! I was beginning to think arrests were like unicorns in this case! You've heard of them but never actually SEE them!

 

[bluesneakers]

You mean it happened? We've finally had an arrest!!! I was beginning to think arrests were like unicorns in this case! You've heard of them but never actually SEE them!

I couldn't believe it.

What are the LARPers going to do now?

 

[i.b.nora]

Well, this is excellent news. Too bad they didn't get the second guy in the other vehicle.

 

[i.b.nora]

https://mobile.twitter.com/WandaKTVZ/status/688141492221652994/video/1

The Bundy people are climbing a pole to get at what they believe to be a camera

 

[pappa rob]

Do you think they were making a pawnshop run to see how much they could get for their bag of ......?

 

[i.b.nora]

This reporter's tweets seem up to date.

She says no Bunndy meeting tonight.

https://mobile.twitter.com/amandapeacher?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[bluesneakers]

https://mobile.twitter.com/WandaKTVZ/status/688141492221652994/video/1

The Bundy people are climbing a pole to get at what they believe to be a camera

I can't believe they're not wearing tin foil hats while they do that.

 

[ILOKAL]

What the BLM has or hasn't done doesn't justify these yahoos taking over the refuge. They're still being selfish and breaking the law. LARPers who are in it for financial gain. Who knew such a thing existed?

That's not everyone's opinion. E.g., Danny Coulson, retired Deputy Director of the FBI, said the only law being broken is perhaps trespassing.

 

[i.b.nora]

The Bundy people seem to think that the FBI is using the cameras to spy on them. Other more knowledgable people think the cameras are for watching and/or documenting birds and wildlife at the refuge.

 

[bluesneakers]

They're worried about an FBI camera so they take it down, but they let media in to film them while they do it.

 

[bluesneakers]

That's not everyone's opinion. E.g., Danny Coulson, retired Deputy Director of the FBI, said the only law being broken is perhaps trespassing.

Oregon militia could face more than 10 years in prison, legal experts say

Ammon Bundy and his followers, who have refused to leave the Malheur national wildlife refuge, appear to have violated several laws

“There are a panoply of federal statutes that focus on trespassing on federal lands and misuse of federal property,” said David Hayes, a visiting lecturer at Stanford Law School and former deputy secretary of the US Department of the Interior. “I’m confident that they will be prosecuted.”

For starters, one federal statute regarding public property holds that if a person “knowingly converts to his use” property of the federal government, that person could face a fine and a prison sentence of up to 10 years if the value of the property is greater than $1,000.

Another federal law specifically governing wildlife refuges says that willful property destruction at protected sanctuaries could yield a six-month prison sentence. A separate statute says that if someone “willfully and maliciously” destroys property on certain federal lands, then he or she could face a fine of up to $250,000 and five years in prison.