OR - Militia members occupy federal building in Oregon after protest #2

[Sulamith]

What kind of radio show is this? Tuned in a few minutes ago, religious something and Mocking Jay LOL!

 

[Fairy1]

Sorry, Victoria?

 

[bluesneakers]

Sorry, Victoria?

Victoria Sharp.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/us/witness-lavoy-finicum-killed-oregon/

 

[KaaBoom]

[video=youtube;ZSkCcivTshU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSkCcivTshU[/video]

 

[Donjeta]

Too bad Cliven didn't think of that in December. There was no need for an armed standoff, Cliven could just have sent more letters and arranged a notarized occupation.

"Hey you federal guys, this is to notify that Cliven Bundy has thrown you out of your building now, have a nice day and hope you enjoy your unemployment. We retain control of this park now, as proven by the notarized stamp."

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/court_documents_filed_stemming.html

links to court documents



http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/ritzheimerdetentionmemousa.pdf
On September 21, 2015, in response to the United States’ proposed nuclear
agreement with Iran, an open message written by RITZHEIMER was posted on
Facebook in which he declared his intent to travel to Michigan to arrest Senator Debbie
Stabenow. RITZHEIMER stated “[w]e are planning on arresting Senator Debbie
Stabenow, who voted yes to the Iran Nuke Deal. She will be arrested for treason under
Article 3 Section 3 of the Constitution. We have chosen her as our first target due to our
strong ties with the Michigan State Militia and their lax guns laws that will allow us to
operate in a manner necessary for an operation like this. After we successfully detain her
we will continue to move across the country and arrest everyone involved with the Iran
Nuke Deal. Even the President who brokered this deal. . . . I am fully prepared for
whatever may come my way. Even if that means death. Because it will at least be for a
noble cause.” (Attachment 7)

 

[RickshawFan]

Car chases have been an extremely common part of LE forever, and should be expected. LEOs should never resort to shooting suspects in a chase, unless the suspects are shooting at them, and merely possessing a firearm, should not be an excuse for a LEO to shoot a suspect. Shooting a suspect in a car chase not only endangers the officers, but also endangers any bystanders who might be hit by the out of control vehicle, or by stray bullets.

The best and safest way for LEOs to prevent or bring a car chase to an end is for them to stay inside their vehicles and block the suspect’s vehicle. LEOs who get out of their vehicles during a car chase needlessly endanger themselves. Which is what happened in this case.

Ummm, they tried the vehicle blockade and it didn't work?

Umm, the perps weren't merely possessing a firearm, but had repeatedly vowed they would use their weapons on LE?

 

[i.b.nora]

Suggest this as a short history lesson and must read article in order to better (not fully) understand what the hell is going on:

The rise of the Sagebrush Sheriffs
How rural ‘constitutional’ peace officers are joining the war against the feds.
High Country News Magazine
Jonathan Thompson
Feb. 2, 2016 From the print edition

http://www.hcn.org/issues/48.2/the-rise-of-the-sagebrush-sheriffs

snippet

“Recapture ride was just another skirmish in the Sagebrush Rebellion, an anti-federal land-management movement with roots here in San Juan County. The first uprising, led in part by then-County Commissioner Calvin Black in the 1970s, was a reaction to what some saw as the federal occupation of the West by way of new environmental laws that impacted federal lands. It was also part of a region-wide effort to transfer federal lands in the West to the states.

The second iteration unfolded in the mid-1990s, provoked by former President Bill Clinton’s conservationist approach to federal land. While that rebellion became violent and coincided with a nationwide surge in anti-federal extremism, the land-use folks rarely crossed paths with the so-called “Patriot” groups. Today, though, the barriers are down. Now, a single event like Recapture, the 2014 Bundy Ranch standoff or the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation, broadcast globally and instantly via social media, draws supporters from across the extreme right, from other Sagebrush Rebels to pro-gun militiamen to local politicians who have no qualms about standing cheek-by-jowl with people aiming rifles at federal agents.

Among those officials are a growing cadre of county sheriffs, many of them from the rural West, who believe themselves above the reach of federal government, constitutionally empowered as the supreme law of the land. Some have chosen to become part of this movement, while others have joined unwittingly, by taking strong political stances or acting on the behalf of local anti-government movements. Eldredge, who refused to be interviewed for this story, openly allied himself with Lyman and company. These self-proclaimed “constitutional sheriffs” use their assumed position as the ultimate law enforcement authority to fight environmental regulation, run federal officials out of their counties, and, in some cases, break the law themselves.”​

Much, much more...

And this page to see other articles in the current edition of this magazine:

http://www.hcn.org/issues/48.2

 

[EllieBee]

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/court_documents_filed_stemming.html

links to court documents



http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/ritzheimerdetentionmemousa.pdf
On September 21, 2015, in response to the United States’ proposed nuclear
agreement with Iran, an open message written by RITZHEIMER was posted on
Facebook in which he declared his intent to travel to Michigan to arrest Senator Debbie
Stabenow. RITZHEIMER stated “[w]e are planning on arresting Senator Debbie
Stabenow, who voted yes to the Iran Nuke Deal. She will be arrested for treason under
Article 3 Section 3 of the Constitution. We have chosen her as our first target due to our
strong ties with the Michigan State Militia and their lax guns laws that will allow us to
operate in a manner necessary for an operation like this. After we successfully detain her
we will continue to move across the country and arrest everyone involved with the Iran
Nuke Deal. Even the President who brokered this deal. . . . I am fully prepared for
whatever may come my way. Even if that means death. Because it will at least be for a
noble cause.” (Attachment 7)

Because *****house rat crazy........

 

[pappa rob]

I think some of these folks may need to go back to their doctors and get their medications increased, because they sure aren't doing the job.

 

[KaaBoom]

Ummm, they tried the vehicle blockade and it didn't work?

Umm, the perps weren't merely possessing a firearm, but had repeatedly vowed they would use their weapons on LE?

Yes, the road block did work perfect. Now if they had followed the other procedures I outlined, they would not have made a martyr out of this guy.

 

[Donjeta]

http://prospect.org/article/oregon-...lights-federal-tribal-quandary-over-artifacts

While the remaining Oregon militia holdouts negotiate with federal law enforcement officials, the Burns Paiute tribe is anxious to find out whether the militants damaged any of the thousands of tribal artifacts housed on public lands since the standoff began in October. Tensions reached a boiling point in late January when state police killed one member of the group and arrested 11 others.

 

[human]

The Michigan militia are or at least were worried about the Negroes invading northern Mich. Because of hubby having to go there for business, he had been invited to join up. That was back in the 90's.

He was always impressed on their lack of making any sense . And of course , with their intense racism.

We would do well to ascertain what makes these people. My guess is severe childhood abuse and now trying to show power.

 

[Donjeta]

http://registerguard.com/rg/news/lo...r-9-others-due-back-in-federal-court.html.csp

PORTLAND — The leader of the armed standoff at an Oregon wildlife refuge and nine of his followers are due back in court Wednesday as four holdouts extend the occupation past a month.

Ammon Bundy and the others who have been arrested were scheduled for preliminary hearings in federal court in Portland. They all face a felony conspiracy charge, accused of using intimidation to prevent federal officers from doing their work at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The maximum penalty is six years in prison.

 

[octobermoon]

Kandra Kent ‏@KandraKTVZ
NEW: Crook Co. Sheriff tells me local law enforcement member was victim of vandalism related to Harney Co. situation. Details tonight @KTVZ

MORE: Crook Co. Sheriff is investigating crime of 'intimidating' vandalism threatening law enforcement member living in Crook County @KTVZ

https://twitter.com/KandraKTVZ

 

[Dr. Know?]

Maxine Bernstein ‏@maxoregonian 1h1 hour ago
Preliminary hearing set for 1:30 pm for Bundys & codefendants 'stricken' - likely due to pending indictments - stay tuned #Oregonstandoff

Maxine Bernstein ‏@maxoregonian 42m42 minutes ago
Court says 'prelim hearing' for Bundys 'stricken'(typical if there's indictments)but def. lawyers showing up anyway b/c no indicts filed yet

Maxine Bernstein ‏@maxoregonian 21m21 minutes ago
Defense lawyers here in federal court , waiting to hear from US prosecutors - no defendants present

https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/with_replies

 

[Fairy1]

It's tragically ironic how similar these people are to those they despise.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Pat Dooris ‏@PatDooris 3m3 minutes ago
Bundy several others indicted by federal grand jury

https://twitter.com/PatDooris/with_replies

Maxine Bernstein ‏@maxoregonian 5m5 minutes ago
Prosecutors said a federal indictment was issued today against Bundy and codefendants - defense lawyers demanded to see it #OregonStandoff

Maxine Bernstein ‏@maxoregonian 2m2 minutes ago
Federal prosecutors said indictments against Bundys & others will be unsealed in less than 24 hours #oregonstandoff

Maxine Bernstein ‏@maxoregonian 45s46 seconds ago
Shawna Cox on her way home to attend son-in-law's funeral Sat., Judge rejected her request to go to LaVoy Finicum's funeral #Oregonstandoff

 

[octobermoon]

KOIN News ‏@KOINNews 8m8 minutes ago
Blumenauer wants militia to pay for Malheur occupation http://wp.me/p4yR81-17io

 

[Dr. Know?]

Prosecutors Bring Sealed Indictment In Bundy Case

Federal prosecutors managing the government’s case against Ammon Bundy and other militants involved in an armed takeover of an Oregon wildlife refuge returned a sealed indictment against Bundy on Wednesday.

http://www.opb.org/news/series/burn...cutors-bring-sealed-indictment-in-bundy-case/