Oscar Pistorius Defense

[shane13]

I haven't had much practice at using the animation part of my program. I might give it a try while the judge and accessors deliberate. I will have to study the manual some. I hate doing that. The posing is the hardest part though, and that is done.

Thanks also for the term Oscar physics. The defense version is certainly based on it.

PS In case noone has noticed, I am a poor typist. I hope you can read around it.

I am a worse typist I am sure.

 

[homegirl]

Homegirl: {how do I get that smiley off?]

One thing that often gets left out of animations is Newton'a 3rd law. (About equal and opposite reactions.)

Re Reeva now, this can entail Reeva, to a certain extent, "bouncing" 'off the wall--if she slammed into it.

And also if her head slammed onto the toilet seat, by Newton's 3rd law her head would "bounce" up a bit and mighr come down elsewhere than where it initially struck the toilet.

Ultimately because there are many variables involved, this is where a BSA person or other forensics person would do actual experiments on "dummies."

I think though in this case, witnesses have testified doing very little of this--maybe due to funding (maybe not.)

JMO {Not a geologist.]

OK, now you have me laughing. If you are not a geologist, how can you possibly have a grasp on physics. If I do an animation, I will try to keep the laws of motion in mind. It probably won't be that great though. I am not very skilled.

I know what you mean though, I too have seen some bad animations. Mine will surely join the ranks.

Hope that smiley isn't copied to my post.

 

[shane13]

OK, now you have me laughing. If you are not a geologist, how can you possibly have a grasp on physics. If I do an animation, I will try to keep the laws of motion in mind. It probably won't be that great though. I am not very skilled.

I know what you mean though, I too have seen some bad animations. Mine will surely join the ranks.

Hope that smiley isn't copied to my post.

BBM;
I am sure that's a joke. But physics doesn't entail studying geology. OTOH Dixon and the rest of geologists would have had to study some physics., I believe i even saw his CV and that he did X-ray diffraction identification of rocks. So he had to study some physics. He might have been OK in his younger days or before other matters ($?) affected his reasoning.

Of course, he might just not have been able to grasp Oscar-Speak and Oscar-Physics.

Who can blame him for that?

 

[shane13]

Am I seeing the bullet or partial in the toilet??

Look closely in the bottom right hand corner of the black blood in center of the toilet.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pistorius2_NYDailyNews.jpg

 

[minor4th]

Am I seeing the bullet or partial in the toilet??

Look closely in the bottom right hand corner of the black blood in center of the toilet.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pistorius2_NYDailyNews.jpg

I believe that's a splinter - I thought it was a bullet or casing when I first saw it though

 

[Cymbaline]

Am I seeing the bullet or partial in the toilet??

Look closely in the bottom right hand corner of the black blood in center of the toilet.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pistorius2_NYDailyNews.jpg

It's a piece of the door. I wonder how that got in the toilet.

 

[shane13]

It's a piece of the door. I wonder how that got in the toilet.

Can we be sure?
Dr Perumal or colleague found spent bullet (was it) the next day in the toilet.

 

[Cymbaline]

Can we be sure?
Dr Perumal or colleague found spent bullet (was it) the next day in the toilet.

If you adjust the colors on your computer you can see it better.
It's definitely piece of the door.

 

[shane13]

It's a piece of the door. I wonder how that got in the toilet.

I guess you are saying this because it might be part of a longer stick that goes out of the liquid?

Probably but there is different coloration.

Makes you wonder though, if Dr Perumal reached deep down into the toilet to get the spent bullet the next day, why didn't cops do that first?

 

[homegirl]

Three lights on in the bedroom when Van Staden took his first set of photos in the bedroom.

Good find on the lights. Could the one reflecting off the headboard be from a camera flash? I don't see a source for it. That still leaves two lights that OP forgot to mention turning on.

 

[shane13]

Three lights on in the bedroom when Van Staden took his first set of photos in the bedroom.

Probably.
But look at the time stamp.

Circa 6AM.
is it possible that the curtains were open, a longer exposure (if needed?)

 

[Cymbaline]

I guess you are saying this because it might be part of a longer stick that goes out of the liquid?

Probably but there is different coloration.

Makes you wonder though, if Dr Perumal reached deep down into the toilet to get the spent bullet the next day, why didn't cops do that first?

It's very strange. I've looked at that picture so many times and never noticed it. My focus was always on the toilet seat/bloody smears.

 

[JudgeJudi]

How can an intruder already in your home, entering further into your home be seen as anything other than an act of aggression?

I can't answer for Oscar as to why he would not tell an intruder that he had a gun trained on the door. Again I have never stated that I believe that Oscar behaved reasonably. Perhaps I should make that my signature.

You may consider an intruder in your home, whether entering further into your home or not, as an act of aggression but the law is the law and OP broke it, simple as that. The following is the testimony of Rens (who devised South Africa's gun safety test) relating to Oscar's firearms competency test where questions are asked regarding various scenarios.

[15:00 - 18:35]
Oscar Pistorius Trial: Monday 17 March 2014, Session 1 - YouTube

Note that the intruder/burglar is seen in every instance, not perceived.

Rens said that OP had "broken every rule" of gun safety the night he shot his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp through a locked bathroom door.

[0.55 - 2:15]
http://abcnews.go.com/International...ight-shot-girlfriend-expert/story?id=22952866

 

[toevlugsoord]

Good find on the lights. Could the one reflecting off the headboard be from a camera flash? I don't see a source for it. That still leaves two lights that OP forgot to mention turning on.

These lights are very interesting -- forgive me but I don't recall OP mentioning turning on the bedroom lights. I remember him omitting mentioning turning the lights on when he went back in and Nel saying it was ridiculous that he wouldn't turn on the lights, and OP saying he didn't want to waste any time getting into the toilet to see if it was Reeva...did he ever say when he DID turn them on?

So my thought about these is perhaps they are all linked into one light switch. You flick one switch on and they all go on.

 

[Cymbaline]

Can we be sure?
Dr Perumal or colleague found spent bullet (was it) the next day in the toilet.

http://i61.tinypic.com/8zqvf9.jpg

 

[Feynman]

Now I see why OP claimed he got his gun from "under" the gun, rather than its normal spot on the bedside table. He needed to be low enough to fail to see Reeva or speak to her face to face.

Remember it's pitch black and Reeva's on the other side of the bed.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Could be. Then the onus is on the intruder to let the home owner know that they are surrendering. For an intruder to think that they can just open a door further into a victims home without suffering repercussions seems pretty foolhardy.

The important point for both of us is that Oscar opened fire after screaming at the intruder to get out but leaving no time or ability for the intruder to actually do so.

That is your interpretation, Oscar's version is that he thought the intruder after being told to get out of his house was then entering further into his house. Oscar states that he was irrational at this point.

Where can I find a link for this please?

 

[JudgeJudi]

OP said his bedroom doors had shrunk up from exposure to humidity and the lock could barely reach from one door to the other. So to secure his door he propped a cricket bat up against them. Sorry, but a locked door was not in his way. The cricket bat was though. LOL!

He is a double amputee. I wish that had never happened to him. And frankly I would have trouble wishing that upon my worst enemy. But he is/was an Olymic runner, and his legs were on the right side of the bed next to where he says Reeva was laying, still asleep. An easy choice, grab his legs and make a safe escape with Reeva? Or go for his gun and run towards a possible death at the hands of Mr. Armed Intruder?

OP testified that his legs were on the right side of the bed next to the window. OP testified that Reeva was sleeping there, next to his legs. I never understood why he wanted his gun to be on the left side of the bed, until just now! Funny!

OP's Defense is just arrogance. No judge, no court, would fall for all of this nonsense.

Reeva had stayed there the night before as well, so OP and Reeva must have known that he would be sleeping on the left side of the bed. Why then were her shoes on the left and his on the right. I don't believe it.

 

[JudgeJudi]

rsbm for relevance

Capt. Mangena left open the possibility that OP could have shot Reeva wearing his legs if his arm was not at shoulder height but nearer his waist. OP slipped up on the stand and described his stance as a "crouch" iirc, like OP is in this pic firing on the shooting range with knees bent, upper body slightly forward:

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ABC_skynews_oscar_pistorius_gun_jt_140301_16x9_992.jpg

Notwithstanding the evidence to the contrary, I've always thought that

(1) OP was wearing his legs, and
(2) He had his arm at shoulder height.

I've never seen a trained person shoot with their arm bent, but then again in OP's world everything is possible.

 

[Cymbaline]

Notwithstanding the evidence to the contrary, I've always thought that

(1) OP was wearing his legs, and
(2) He had his arm at shoulder height.

I've never seen a trained person shoot with their arm bent, but then again in OP's world everything is possible.

Hmmmmmm. The bloody shorts that OP is wearing in the garage photos are past his knees. They have a loose elastic waistband and appear to be longer than his stumps.

How did he walk in those big shorts carrying loaded gun in the dark on his stumps without tripping?


JMO