Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #68 *Appeal Verdict*

[Hazy]

The stairs down to the living room area would have been challenging on his stumps

Did you ever go down the stairs on your backside as a kid? It's pretty fast! I bet he has done it many many times!

Slide down the banister?

If he did any of those things he wouldn't die in an upstairs fire either!

Not so challenging when you see it that way,eh?

 

[aftermath]

But confronting armed intruders was preferable?

Oh, boy.

Easier to defend and protect when you are not struggling to negotiate stairs on your stumps?

 

[DexterMorgan]

It's been known that Oscar doesn't mind lying to save his behind from anything that he has done in the past.

So. Why did Masipa believe his story from the beginning.

Was Masipa His Lady. Yes My Lady. Lol.

 

[Hazy]

Easier to defend and protect when you are not struggling to negotiate stairs on your stumps?

Why did he have to go downstairs?

He could have baricaded himself in the spare bedroom, or hidden somewhere, phoned the police and still would have had his GUN for protection. He might even have had Reeva with him perhaps attempting these actions would have made him realise that she wasn't there in the bedroom.....

 

[LemonMousse]

Oh...and by the way....if Pistorius was screaming when he started shooting (as he testified he was) how on earth did he hear the noise of someone leaning on a door jamb over that?

And.....The Stipps. They looked straight in the direction of Pistorius's house when they heard the first bangs. How could they even see his house if the lights were off? As they carried on looking (Mrs Stipp stayed on the balcony looking over up until the second bangs) how come it escaped their notice that lights had suddenly gone on...and that they could now see a house when previously there was blackness?

None of it makes sense. None of it.

The lights were on. Reeva was the woman screaming and Pistorius the man shouting. He shot her and then lied.

This is the only explanation that makes sense of all the evidence.

 

[Paul Connelly]

Why did he have to go downstairs?

He could have baricaded himself in the spare bedroom, or hidden somewhere, phoned the police and still would have had his GUN for protection. He might even have had Reeva with him perhaps attempting these actions would have made him realise that she wasn't there in the bedroom.....

Woulda, shoulda, coulda... It's all froth and nonsense because he executed her in cold blood. The forensics all point to this, we just don't know the reason.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Question. Where is the other guy who was there at the time. And who is he? And why hasn't his face been plastered all over?

If he was there and a witness to certain things. Then why Masipa didn't question him.

Is this guy missing or what.

 

[james83]

So unsteady on his stumps but yet able to run from the bedroom to the bathroom and then back to the bedroom whilst all the time holding a cocked gun in the pitch black, and don't forget he's screaming out allsorts until the moment he sees Reeva, at that point he falls totally silent, LOL give me strength,

 

[LemonMousse]

Easier to defend and protect when you are not struggling to negotiate stairs on your stumps?

He didn't have to go downstairs. In fact, he didn't even have to leave the bedroom.

If he wanted to scare people out of the bathroom with the least danger to himself and Reeva then he could have grabbed the gun and hidden in the bedroom.

As Nel said...there is only one way from the bathroom to the bedroom, so there was only one direction they were coming from. A gun trained on the doorway would have been JUST as effective as heading into the bathroom and a hell of a lot safer.

What he did was launch a suicide mission. And no matter how you try to justify it, it simply does not make any sense.

Didn't happen.

 

[Paul Connelly]

Oh...and by the way....if Pistorius was screaming when he started shooting (as he testified he was) how on earth did he hear the noise of someone leaning on a door jamb over that?

And.....The Stipps. They looked straight in the direction of Pistorius's house when they heard the first bangs. How could they even see his house if the lights were off? As they carried on looking (Mrs Stipp stayed on the balcony looking over up until the second bangs) how come it escaped their notice that lights had suddenly gone on...and that they could now see a house when previously there was blackness?

None of it makes sense. None of it.

The lights were on. Reeva was the woman screaming and Pistorius the man shouting. He shot her and then lied.

This is the only explanation that makes sense if all the evidence.

That's it isn't it. When you point out all the inconsistencies, as you have done so systematically, you have to suspend all rational thought to even consider his ridiculous version might ever be reasonably, possibly true. It's not even possible, much less reasonable of truthful. It just beggars belief!

 

[Hazy]

Easier to defend and protect when you are not struggling to negotiate stairs on your stumps?

Woulda, shoulda, coulda... It's all froth and nonsense because he executed her in cold blood. The forensics all point to this, we just don't know the reason.

I agree

We will never know the reason but the state of the house, bedroom door damage etc all points to a fight of some kind.

If o remember rightly there was no blood on the soles of his socks. Not sure how he managed that one! (I know I will be corrected if I'm wrong)

Could someone please remind me if, in his version, he had turned the light on when he broke down the door panels with the bat?

 

[LemonMousse]

And Hazy is absolutely 100% right.

An armed intruder seems to be the only "emergency" that would leave Pistorius powerless to escape. If there was a fire or the ceiling was falling in, would he have died because he didn't want to risk the hall tiles on his stumps?

 

[DexterMorgan]

Why did he have to go downstairs?

He could have baricaded himself in the spare bedroom, or hidden somewhere, phoned the police and still would have had his GUN for protection. He might even have had Reeva with him perhaps attempting these actions would have made him realise that she wasn't there in the bedroom.....

Agree. If you was scared of a suspect in a locked bathroom. But you decide to breakdown the bathroom door after firing 4 shots while the suspect may still be alive. Lmao. Why would you do that. Lol.

Did he go downstairs and not see Reeva and then go back upstairs to break down the bathroom door?

Or did he know Reeva was the one in the bathroom already. And he decided to get her out of there.

 

[LemonMousse]

I agree

We will never know the reason but the state of the house, bedroom door damage etc all points to a fight of some kind.

If o remember rightly there was no blood on the soles of his socks. Not sure how he managed that one! (I know I will be corrected if I'm wrong)

Could someone please remind me if, in his version, he had turned the light on when he broke down the door panels with the bat?

Yes...although he couldn't remember exactly when he turned the light on (quelle suprise).

 

[Hazy]

Easier to defend and protect when you are not struggling to negotiate stairs on your stumps?

Agree. If you was scared of a suspect in a locked bathroom. But you decide to breakdown the bathroom door after firing 4 shots while the suspect may still be alive. Lmao. Why would you do that. Lol.

Did he go downstairs and not see Reeva and then go back upstairs to break down the bathroom door?

Or did he know Reeva was the one in the bathroom already. And he decided to get her out of there.

Surely an intruder HIDING from you gives you ample opportunity to flee......?

... And suggests that they are perhaps more scared of you than you are of them?

This 'intruder' has labelled dangerous yet dos not live up to that tag at all!

 

[jilly]

Why did he have to go downstairs?

He could have baricaded himself in the spare bedroom, or hidden somewhere, phoned the police and still would have had his GUN for protection. He might even have had Reeva with him perhaps attempting these actions would have made him realise that she wasn't there in the bedroom.....

Good point. Why didn't he call the police or get Reeva to?
Did Nel ever ask him that?

Instead. iirc, he yells for the "intruder" to get the eff out of his house. Who does that? I mean....really? At the very least, he would have told Reeva to call the police and 'covered' the cubicle until the cops arrived.

So we end up with an "intruder" in a locked cubicle. Oscar has a gun on him and the "intruder" ends up getting shot to death in that locked cubicle.

 

[aftermath]

He would have asked Reeva to pick up his prostheses and take them for him while he got the gun, then they would have locked the bedroom door behind them, intruder safely trapped, he would have put his prostheses on and they would have run to safety. But then of course, he would have known that there was no intruder, because he would have had no response from Reeva and would have known it was her in the toilet all the time! Easy? Much easier than going to the tiled bathroom on his stumps where he might be killed as soon as he put his face round the corner, do you agree?

BIB by that time a real intruder could have attacked them in their bedroom

 

[Hazy]

Yes...although he couldn't remember exactly when he turned the light on (quelle suprise).

The bathroom key puzzles me. He claims he didn't see Reeva until he managed to open the door yet he saw a key on the floor.

 

[Hazy]

BIB by that time a real intruder could have attacked them in their bedroom

but, but, big, bad dangerous intruder was hiding in the bathroom.....

 

[LemonMousse]

BIB by that time a real intruder could have attacked them in their bedroom

But once he had his gun he had as much protection as he possibly could have. Why then put himself in harms way for no reason when hiding in the bedroom with the gun pointed at the door is a hundred times safer than hobbling down a dark corridor to who knows what round the corner......screaming so they know you're on your way?

He did nothing to try and protect himself. Nothing. Why?