P.I. Says He Videotaped Area Where Caylee Was Later Found

[magic-cat]

I wonder if your son would have been such a great dad if he would
have had a child when he was addicted 5 years ago?
I doubt it!Obviously he would not have been as good of a father as a non-addicted father, BUT he maintained his employment through it all and did not sponge off of either me or his father. And IF he did have a child at that juncture, I would have done nothing differently. I would have left HIS child in HIS care and that would have grown him up right quick with no crutch to lean upon but his own will...

And I would almost bet money that had he had a child when he had his
addiction you would not want him to take off with the child!My son WAS on his own, he had his own home at that time, so there would have been no "taking off"-he had his own life.

But guess what.... you wouldn't have been able to stop him!Guess what? I would not have even made an attempt to stop him.

I don't need you to talk to me about courage by doing the right thing!
Trust me!

My point is that there was not ONE thing the Anthony's could do to keep
Caylee safe!There was not one thing they could have done, there were a MILLION and ONE things they could have done. They could have taught their daughter something instead of buying into her insanity and letting her RULE their home. They could have sent her packing, I mean, she was not a 17 year old girl, she was a fully grown woman when she HAD Caylee.

Casey was her mother!Casey was her "egg donor".
She had custody!Cindy could have filed for custody years ago and PROVEN Casey unfit, but that would have looked too bad on HER...
You can't MAKE adults do anything!You can when they are living in YOUR home and YOU are paying their way. If they do not abide the rules then you show them the door. It is THAT simple.
And there has not been ONE thing mentioned in this case that
proves abuse bad enough to have CPS take her away from Casey!Sleeping in the bed with a man while he and her mother engaged in sex was CERTAINLY enough. The courts take children away every single day from mothers who expose their children to it.

No matter how sad it is that Caylee had to be around
her mom's life style.....it's not against the law to be a bad mom!Uh, yes it is. It is called wreckless child endangerment and child abuse, just to name two.
And it takes ALOT for a parent to get custody taken away!Not really. One suicide attempt would have done it, proof of drug use in front of Caylee would have done it. Proof of her sleeping in a bed with a man with Caylee and engaging in intercourse would have done it. If they had hired a PI when Caylee was an infant and DISCOVERED some things instead of looking the other way and ignoring EVERYTHING they may have gotten custody early on. They did not even TRY.

I didn't think my daughter would either!
But she changed when she became a drug addict! My son changed as well, and I cried oceans, believe me. But you know what else I did? When he threatened to never speak to me again if I did not stop discussing it with him, I told him to go ahead, I would STILL speak to him. I paid visits to every drug dealer friend of his whose name I knew and informed them that they would be spending time on the inside of a jail-cell if they continued to provide for him. I yelled and fought and battled with him over it and NEVER once just ignored it in the hopes that it would go away. I told him I would see HIM in a jail cell before I would see him in a CASKET and he knew that I meant it. I did NOT give him money. I did NOT pay his bills. I did not ENABLE or SUPPORT his habit in any way shape or form. I supported him by standing for what would save his LIFE. I cried myself to sleep every single night and I pleaded with God in heaven to spare his life on a moment by moment basis. And you know what? It was not easy to do. It was THE hardest thing that I ever HAD to do, and I did it to SAVE him. Coddling a drug addict just makes them use you more and more, not less and it certainly does nothing to END their addiction. I studied on it, read a couple of good books, researched the drugs that I KNEW he was obtaining and intervened with him continually although it WAS hard and extremely uncomfortable. The EASY path of giving in to them is not the RIGHT or CORRECT path-ever.

We all have our choices to make. The Anthony's must live with theirs and so must we all...

 

[kaelieanne]

There's part of me that thinks that this is all a part of some "Master Plan" concocted by the Anthony's so Casey goes free....

Something is not right here.....How could that PI have video of where the body was found?

It doesn't make any sense

I agree, Boston, about the master plan... but do you think any of them are really smart enough to work this entire thing out?

I do think they're diabolical, but I wonder if they're intelligent enough to work it all out to this degree.

 

[Psmith]

My apologies to Mrs. Peel. No offense intended - and I was teasing TxRose, it was just a playful slap.

I think I "got it" a while ago (see quote above, bolded by me), just didn't want to spell it out - and I figured Mrs. Peel didn't either, but that one post did read a little like greek.

But the more I think and digest this and read. . . . I've wondered what Dr. G was going to say when she ended her statement with "they are not intact, as far as they are all disarticulated, they are completely skeletonized, there is some dispursion of the skeletal remains over an area. There's a clear. . . . and that's all I really want to say." There's a clear what? There's clearly something more that she didn't want to say. She also said that there was "no trauma to the bones prior to death". Realizing the whole water and animals thing. . . . but as thick as the plant growth was, how did bones get so far away. It wasn't like it was moving water. Just makes you wonder. I still think she was probably there all along but, there is so much that we don't know.

No offense to me, at all, but polite of you to say something. You charmer!

o/t because this is about vids----there is still perhaps marrow, tooth dentin, possible tissue under duct tape. You can bet there is "stuff" under the tape: ever tried packing something for xmas or Ebay---?


o/t schaudenfraude. it's a b*tch, but nice on our and Caylee's side for once.

Nighties......the wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine....and how fine it is! Net.....all done. All the magpies, parrots, vultures, and other birds caught very well. I hope.

bon nuit....

 

[harleysnana]

We all have our choices to make. The Anthony's must live with theirs and so must we all...

:clap::clap::clap:
I'm happy you have all the answers!

 

[Firefly]

OMGosh, I don't check in for 4 days and THIS is what I am coming back to!! My head is spinning right now. I can only suspect that this is all Defense build up for "doubt" and this will be thrown at the Prosecution with a little note to go ahead now and prove us wrong. The A's must have known this spot as a "HOT" spot and are using their hinky videotape to put in their box of tricks to try to retrieve their MOMster daughter.

 

[nomoresorrow]

I wonder if your son would have been such a great dad if he would
have had a child when he was addicted 5 years ago?
I doubt it!

And I would almost bet money that had he had a child when he had his
addiction you would not want him to take off with the child!

But guess what.... you wouldn't have been able to stop him!

I don't need you to talk to me about courage by doing the right thing!
Trust me!

My point is that there was not ONE thing the Anthony's could do to keep
Caylee safe!

Casey was her mother! She had custody!
You can't MAKE adults do anything!
And there has not been ONE thing mentioned in this case that
proves abuse bad enough to have CPS take her away from Casey!

No matter how sad it is that Caylee had to be around
her mom's life style.....it's not against the law to be a bad mom!
And it takes ALOT for a parent to get custody taken away!

I didn't think my daughter would either!
But she changed when she became a drug addict!

(Bolded by me)
To claim that there is nothing that the A's (or anyone for that matter) could (can) have done (do) to have kept (to keep) Caylee (any child) safe is complete B.S! Because you haven't had any success at it, everyone else should just "take it from you" and not even bother? Someone shares a story of a "happy ending" and you can't even feel happiness for them, instead you inject the bitterness and guilt that you carry because of your own outcome. Of course it's possible that if the A's had actually done more, it may not have changed the outcome, that's no different for any parent. You do EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN with no guarantee's but at least there's A CHANCE. And every child deserves a chance. I'm truly sorry about your daughter and the burden that you carry for your grandchild (children) but that doesn't give you the right to declare that it's hopeless to everyone else just because you've given up hope. I happen to believe that as long as your breathing, there is hope.

 

[Bobbisangel]

For those who don't believe the body was there since June, someone moved it there after mid November, made animal teeth marks in the bones and then spread them across an acre of land? I am not following at all.

I believe that the little bones were spread over an acre of land weren't they?
I doubt that the little animals were carrying their find under water when the land was flooded. I think Casey waited till the body started to smell and then took it to those woods and there it has been since then.

I find it interesting that they had a PI film that area. I want to know why too.
It will be interesting to find out if that is the only area that he filmed. If it was then something is haywire in China.

I don't know what to think of the Anthonys anymore. I know they have done and will do anything to keep Casey from going to prison whether it is lying for her, etc. I think they have known that Caylee was dead since they smelled the trunk of Casey's car. Maybe they just thought...Caylee is dead and we can't change that so all we can do now is try to save Casey. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I won't be surprised if Lee wasn't involved in the dumping of Caylee's body either.

 

[harleysnana]

(Bolded by me)
To claim that there is nothing that the A's (or anyone for that matter) could (can) have done (do) to have kept (to keep) Caylee (any child) safe is complete B.S! Because you haven't had any success at it, everyone else should just "take it from you" and not even bother? Someone shares a story of a "happy ending" and you can't even feel happiness for them, instead you inject the bitterness and guilt that you carry because of your own outcome. Of course it's possible that if the A's had actually done more, it may not have changed the outcome, that's no different for any parent. You do EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN with no guarantee's but at least there's A CHANCE. And every child deserves a chance. I'm truly sorry about your daughter and the burden that you carry for your grandchild (children) but that doesn't give you the right to declare that it's hopeless to everyone else just because you've given up hope. I happen to believe that as long as your breathing, there is hope.

I’m sorry you think its B.S. but there really isn’t anything they could have done different.
There is NO way Casey would have lost custody! Look at all the threads
we have on WS where the child was severely beaten and abused and the
parents still did not lose custody!
George and Cindy could not do anything! Casey was her mom and she is
the one who had custody and she is the one who could choose to take her and leave
and not have contact with her parents for 31 days.

I’m also sorry if you got that I was bitter because her son beat an addiction because I’m not!
The only thing I’m bitter about is the fact that Casey is the only one charged
with murder but somehow it’s George and Cindy’s fault that Caylee is dead.
I just don’t see it that way. I see it from their side. And I know from experience
that it’s not as easy as you would think and unless you have ever dealt with what
they are going through I just don’t think you have a right to judge them!
I think they did the best they could under the circumstance to keep Caylee safe
and that is why they put up with Casey for as long as they did!

The poster who I was responding to even admitted that she hasn’t had a
child who has taken off with her grandchild!
All I am saying is its different when it actually
happens to you!

I agree that as a parent you do everything you can to keep a child safe even
if that means letting your daughter live with you until she can get her life
straightened out!

My granddaughters are not a burden to me they are a blessing and I’m sorry
if you got that out of my post!

IMO the Anthony’s couldn’t do anything more than they already had done.
The laws are not on their side. I’m sorry if you feel I’m not being hopeful… I’m
being truthful!

I don’t recall I ever gave the outcome of my situation…. and I don’t believe I ever
said I had given up hope! I also would NEVER be bitter against anyone who has
ever had to deal with a child with an addiction! So please don’t assume you know me!

BTW... my daughter is one of the strongest people I know!
She has dealt with more than you could imagine, she is now the best mother
to her two little girls and she gets no help from their dad!
I like to think that is because we did not give up on her and helped her at
a time when she really needed us!

 

[DaughterAlice]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18377039/detail.html

A PI for the A's was video-taping the area where the body was found, a month before its discovery. They have submitted the video as evidence that there was no body there previously, which makes the police question WHY he would have been there with a video tape to start with.

Crazy.

 

[Whisperer]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18377039/detail.html

A PI for the A's was video-taping the area where the body was found, a month before its discovery. They have submitted the video as evidence that there was no body there previously, which makes the police question WHY he would have been there with a video tape to start with.

Crazy.

Just shows me the Anthonys have known since day one that Caylee had died. GA and Ca could have searched that area themselves. It was the most obvious place. It was in their own neighborhood. They could have asked neighbors to search with them,..ut uh...nothing, CA did all her searching on line on forums..They are now going to frame the cops.

That is the first place I thought of right after the crime, but thought it had been ruled out, so I concentrated in other places. I would venture to say most of us looked at that area on the map and said " YOowee".

I am not buying their excuse of a "Live" Caylee either. They searched thier own backyard before the LE arrives. They even moved the playhouse to look under it....come on..we know....they knew.

 

[lastchance]

Every time I think this case can't be any more bizarre...

 

[JaneInOz]

Well Maybe it was still flooded at that time and the bag only rose when the water dried up and then the Meter man found it

 

[MADJGNLAW]

That's right...what does Baez have to do with this then? Shouldn't the new attorney, Conway, be talking?

That is what I kept asking. The Anthony's hired him, not Baez from what I understood. Then I read about the contract Baez had with him, but I thought that was a contract between the P.I. and the Anthony's. So, why would Baez file a motion? Is this not a conflict of interest? From what Baez spokesperson said, The defense's spokesman said they don't want their former private eye to divulge privileged conversations they might have had about where Caylee's remains might be. (So, is the defense's admitting that they knew where the body was all this time and possible were the one's to move it? Remember, Baez filed a motion for Casey to do her own private search and it was denied! Where they planning on moving the Body? That would create a big problem for Baez as well I would think, representing is one thing, but helping cover up a murder is another.)

 

[CarrieBean]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18377039/detail.html

A PI for the A's was video-taping the area where the body was found, a month before its discovery. They have submitted the video as evidence that there was no body there previously, which makes the police question WHY he would have been there with a video tape to start with.

Crazy.

From the above link:

"The defense wants to intervene, because Dominic Casey used to work for the defense and attorney Jose Baez doesn't want him to divulge privileged information."

and

"The defense's spokesman said they don't want their former private eye to divulge privileged conversations they might have had about where Caylee's remains might be."

What happened to 'KC is innocent, blah blah....Zanny did it, blah blah...'

 

[Pattymarie]

I understand what you are saying.

However, I believe early on, knowing Caylee was gone, they made a decision to focus all their efforts & energy on "saving" KC, no matter what! JMO.

Then EVERYTHING they did in the last few months regarding finding a "live" Caylee was a lie.

 

[eddeva]

if this is proved to be valid then it only shows the anthonys, as a whole, to be even more suspect, if that's at all possible.

 

[Sustained]

This defense tactic is definitely going to backfire on them ... Baez is disclosing this to try and prove someone else put the body there while KC was in jail ... question is why would the PI be videotaping that specific location in mid-November unless the A's knew that's where the body would be found.

Rotten to the core, the whole bunch of them ... protecting their lying, murdering daughter over the life on an innocent grandchild.

 

[JaneInOz]

Oh There is a thread already here http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77191

 

[Trailerparkgirl]

This defense tactic is definitely going to backfire on them ... Baez is disclosing this to try and prove someone else put the body there while KC was in jail ... question is why would the PI be videotaping that specific location in mid-November unless the A's knew that's where the body would be found.

Rotten to the core, the whole bunch of them ... protecting their lying, murdering daughter over the life on an innocent grandchild.

exactly
why videotape? did they look into the future and know the body "might" or would be placed there????

this case is getting more bizarre by the day

 

[Clock's Tickin]

it is my opinion that "the bag" was never moved and remained at the same location until foliage completely covered it. I'm not sure a video sweep of the area would have picked it up under the overgrowth and fallen leaves. HOWEVER...for the sake of argument...KC continued to insist (as did her parents) that Caylee would be "home" for her birthday....2 days prior to MR first call to LE...when bag was spotted ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD (not in the woods)...next day bag is IN the woods. Could KC's "prophecy" have been fulfilled? If Caylee was moved on her B-day, whoever moved her may have been the "double bagger", in which case dirt, leavs, insects, and whatever else may not match the discovery site. Evidence could be trapped between the bags and even with the duct tape. This would also mean the tape was either used twice or the "mover" handled the remains and all of the taping was done to fascilitate the move. Either way, it leaves opening for questions...lots more...