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Parents Fake Religion to Avoid Vaccines
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I am aware of the difference. Because of what my daughter has been through, and having low IGA, and I've suffered through the real flu, I am most definitely getting her a flu shot. Not when my daughter exhibited no symptoms of a UTI, no history of UTI's, and I just told her that the stomach flu was making its way through my daughter's class. Which scenario is more likely??? I've dealt with this ER often, and they have been wrong in the past. They think through a checklist and don't think outside of the box.
thanks, spazkat.. but see that's the part that doesn't have me convinced- you said childhood shots are 'not supposed to' have mercury.. but... nothing yet has convinced me that they absolutely do not.
Someone I know (pregnant) just got a flu shot because the doc said it was essential.. so,, that means my friend just had mercury injected into her..?? How is that NOT a bad thing, and how does that not put the fetus at risk......??
Maybe this is one of the things that is making every generation get dumber and dumber...
Someone I know (pregnant) just got a flu shot because the doc said it was essential.. so,, that means my friend just had mercury injected into her..?? How is that NOT a bad thing, and how does that not put the fetus at risk......??
Maybe this is one of the things that is making every generation get dumber and dumber...
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Reb, Thimoseral (?sp) mercury preservative was banned in shots in 1999, but there is leftover stock still in use. You have to make sure your provider is not using those shots. The flu shot is recommended for pregnant women, as getting the flu during pregnancy is putting the fetus at high risk and the mother will feel even crappier than normal. I got one when I was pregnant. My child is not autistic.
So... our health care providers 'might' be using these shots and they 'might' not? You have to ask, and request that they use the right ones?? Hhhmmmmm,,, interesting.
Well,, it's not just autism I worry about... as we all know, mercury exposure can cause birth defects and retardation. And who knows what subtle effects even low doses can cause. Funny how they are telling pregnant women not to eat tuna, salmon or other large fish; and don't let your kids eat tuna more than once a week, if at all. But the shots,, yes,, perfectly safe, of course!
Well,, it's not just autism I worry about... as we all know, mercury exposure can cause birth defects and retardation. And who knows what subtle effects even low doses can cause. Funny how they are telling pregnant women not to eat tuna, salmon or other large fish; and don't let your kids eat tuna more than once a week, if at all. But the shots,, yes,, perfectly safe, of course!
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from http://www.freenancy.com/index.html:
Autism in a Needle? The toxic tale of vaccinations and mercury poisoning
Annette Fuentes
(experts from article
<Some parents of autistic children called me and asked me to look at thimerosal. We did some experiments with human brain tissue and it was dramatic, Haley said. It penetrates the proteins in the brain. It is toxic to neurons and enzymes. Haley co-authored an August 2003 study that showed autistic children retained more mercury in their bodies than normal children, evidenced by higher levels of the toxin in their hair. That means the ethylmercury from thimerosal had been absorbed into their brain and other body tissue, likely causing neurological damage.">
<A June 2000 analysis by Verstraeten found a link between thimerosal and language, speech and developmental delays during the childs first 6 months. Verstraetens initial findings were never publicly released, and SAFE MINDS obtained copies of his reports only through Freedom of Information Act filings in 2001. For Robert Krakow, whose son is autistic, Verstraetens findings were a bittersweet discovery. If the Verstraeten report had been publicized, my wife would have read about it because she was up on these things and our son wouldnt have had thimerosal-containing vaccines, he said. Why is the public not told? To protect the vaccine makers.>
<The stakes are high for the pharmaceutical industry. Eli Lilly, inventor of thimerosal, was granted protection from lawsuits by parents of autistic children under a short-lived provision slipped into the Homeland Security Act in November 2002.>
the whole article:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/648/autism_in_a_needle/
Autism in a Needle? The toxic tale of vaccinations and mercury poisoning
Annette Fuentes
(experts from article
<Some parents of autistic children called me and asked me to look at thimerosal. We did some experiments with human brain tissue and it was dramatic, Haley said. It penetrates the proteins in the brain. It is toxic to neurons and enzymes. Haley co-authored an August 2003 study that showed autistic children retained more mercury in their bodies than normal children, evidenced by higher levels of the toxin in their hair. That means the ethylmercury from thimerosal had been absorbed into their brain and other body tissue, likely causing neurological damage.">
<A June 2000 analysis by Verstraeten found a link between thimerosal and language, speech and developmental delays during the childs first 6 months. Verstraetens initial findings were never publicly released, and SAFE MINDS obtained copies of his reports only through Freedom of Information Act filings in 2001. For Robert Krakow, whose son is autistic, Verstraetens findings were a bittersweet discovery. If the Verstraeten report had been publicized, my wife would have read about it because she was up on these things and our son wouldnt have had thimerosal-containing vaccines, he said. Why is the public not told? To protect the vaccine makers.>
<The stakes are high for the pharmaceutical industry. Eli Lilly, inventor of thimerosal, was granted protection from lawsuits by parents of autistic children under a short-lived provision slipped into the Homeland Security Act in November 2002.>
the whole article:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/648/autism_in_a_needle/
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You wanna vaccinate your child? Go ahead. If yours is "protected" then my non-vaccinated child should not be a threat.
My sister homeschooled her kids because of this. Screw the goverment MAKING you do something you think may harm your child. Vaccines IMO suck. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the driving force. We are weakening the immune systems of our entire race because we are supposed to pass on the antibodies and EVOLVE into stronger beings. The bugs are gonna win people.
If there is even a QUESTION that vaccines may be a link to causing autism, then you should be able to opt out until someone can prove that they don't. So far, many facts support the link. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
My sister homeschooled her kids because of this. Screw the goverment MAKING you do something you think may harm your child. Vaccines IMO suck. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the driving force. We are weakening the immune systems of our entire race because we are supposed to pass on the antibodies and EVOLVE into stronger beings. The bugs are gonna win people.
If there is even a QUESTION that vaccines may be a link to causing autism, then you should be able to opt out until someone can prove that they don't. So far, many facts support the link. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
You wanna vaccinate your child? Go ahead. If yours is "protected" then my non-vaccinated child should not be a threat.
My sister homeschooled her kids because of this. Screw the goverment MAKING you do something you think may harm your child. Vaccines IMO suck. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the driving force. We are weakening the immune systems of our entire race because we are supposed to pass on the antibodies and EVOLVE into stronger beings. The bugs are gonna win people.
If there is even a QUESTION that vaccines may be a link to causing autism, then you should be able to opt out until someone can prove that they don't. So far, many facts support the link. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
Excellent post!!!! :clap::clap::clap:
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Im not gonna opt out unless its proved to be true which to me it has not. I do not know one single person that has an autistic child and all of my friends kids have been vaccinated. All my kids have been vaccinated and are fine. I would much rather them get the shots and be ok vs not getting them and getting some horrible disease. Everyone has their own choices and thats how it should be. If parents dont want to vaccinate then they should not have to.
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Wow. What am emotionally charged issue this is for this forum! And clearly, after reading/scanning through some of the posts here, there is a lot of misunderstanding and downright misinformation concerning this topic.
As most of you know, I have been extremely vocal about what happened to our now 14 year old son, Ryan. He suffered horribly from vaccine reactions as an infant, so much so, that after his 4 month shots, in which he received the whole cell DPT vaccine, his reaction was so severe, they exempted him from the pertussis component of the DPT vaccine. However, even w/o the pertussis component in the DT vaccine given to him at the age of six months, he still suffered a reaction.
Marthatex, you should take the time to read what Dr. Boyd Haley states about mercury being injected into anyone, much less infants. He is a world reknown expert re: mercury toxicity.
Here is a quote from Dr. Haley re: mercury/vaccines:
"Well, there are a lot of things that happen, and on top of inhibiting their ability to make hemoglobin, which we just talked about in detail, lets talk about the affect on the immune system. What we know is that Thimerosal, at one nanomolar or lower concentrationsand when we say nanomolar, lets put it in perspectivethe vaccine contains 125,000 nanomolar level of mercury if it has Thimerosal as a preservative. Thats a huge amount. And one nanomolar levels in the baby will prevent the macrophages from going through phagocytosis. In other words, they will lose their ability to eat viruses and bacteria that are in the blood that shouldnt be there, and so Thimerosal suppresses the immune system. This is well known and has been well described in the literature for a long time; that mercury is an immune system suppressor and you see that these autistic children have a truckload of immune problems. So you would prevent that from occurring. That is documented research and I dont know how the government can even ignore it, or the agencies of the government can ignore it."
"Now the other thing, there was a paper that came out from the University of California at Davis just recently showing that very low levels of Thimerosal inhibited dendritic cell development thats important in brain and the immune system development, and this was at amazingly low concentrations. This again, while you cant do the experiment on the child, it does show that toxicity of Thimerosal is much, much lower than what the experts from Rochester and other places like that suggest that it was by looking at the death of certain cells. They did not look at depletion of the immune system. They did not look at depletion of your ability to excrete other toxins such as indicated by the inhibition of porphyrin profiles. They have only looked at death. Death is not a good endpoint for looking at toxicity because these autistic children arent dying; theyre being damaged. You can have damage done at much, much lower concentrations than where death is induced."
"So we need to take this methylmercury/ethylmercury argument that they throw out there in context. Theyre talking about significant damage that you can see with a microscope, and the rest of us are talking about damage you only see in the resulting child who has immune problems, mental [cognitive] problems, and numerous other problems. So I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person with the credentials to understand this research would say that Thimerosal wasnt most likely the cause of autism."
"Any child that is lead toxic or has a burden of lead will be much more susceptible to mercury toxicity than one who is totally free of lead. Again, thats something thats been known for 30 or more years. And again, the people on the opposing side totally ignore that factor, yet in the paper the newspaper day after day we see reports of lead toxicity of children in specifically the eastern cities where the lead paint is still on the old houses and in the ground, and wherever theyre getting it. I mean multiple things Maybe in the pipes that theyre drinking water from. If you have a lead toxic child who might survive and might be capable of developing a good I.Q., if you take that lead toxic child and give him an exposure to mercury, you could cause him severe problemsquite different than a child whos not lead toxic. Also, its not only those children, but those who are on antibiotics are much more susceptible to all types of mercury toxicity, because antibiotics have been shown in experiments with rats to prevent the excretion of mercury. So, it builds up in the bodies of these children."
"The same thing with diets: milk diets increase the retention of mercury in the bodies of children. This is a well-published fact. So with all of these things, the diet, the antibiotics and what we call synergistic toxicity of the exposure to other heavy metals, which is rampant in this countryits all over the placeI mean lead exposures, arsenic exposures, cadmium exposures that we cant even explain where they come from, or even copperwe have to consider that that toxic profile; were taking on top of that and purposely injecting mercury in these children. Were not giving them much of a chance, and I think we need to get politically active about this and make laws to stop it." Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley by Teri Small:
Frankly, I see red when someone who calls science 'hocus pocus.' The science that has absolutely, unequivocally uncovered mercury as just ONE ingredient which causes so much harm to these infants vis-a-vis vaccines HAS BEEN COVERED UP. The CDC and the Academy of Pediatrics ought to be ashamed of themselves for covering up the real science re: this issue. Data has been deliberately contamined vis-a-vis poor control samplings, and data has been outright fabricated to suit the CDC's own agenda which claims that thimerosal is NOT, at least in part, responsible for autism and learning disorder issues.
We had to watch our baby boy scream hysterically for hours after his 4 month DPT shot. It was just awful. When I called our pediatrician, he asked me to hold the phone out so that he could hear Ryan's screams. After I did so and got him back on the phone, he became very hushed. He then stated that we should give Ryan Tylenol to try to ease Ryan's obvious pain and then told us to rush Ryan to the emergency room if his screams did not abate within 15 minutes. Thank God the screaming eventually stopped but the next day, when I took Ryan into the pediatrician's office, they told me that his reaction was duly noted in his medical files and that he was never, ever to receive the pertussis component of the DPT vaccine again.
When I asked our ped just what, if anything, had happened to Ryan after that horrible reaction, he very calmly, but firmly explained to me that we would likely see academic issues with Ryan once he started school. Well, thank you very much for that.
We quit vaccinating Ryan after his 6 month reaction. Ryan has since been diagnosed with severe dysgraphia, higher order speech/language issues and profound areas of deficit in the ability to understand math concepts.
We had also thought that he was doing remarkably well in school. Well, that's a whole 'nuther story, as we now know that they've been fake grading this poor kid. He has never received the laptop computer he so desperately needs for his dysgraphia and he is still far behind his peer group level in math. We are now looking at suing our school district because they have not adhered to the IDEA 2004/No Child Left Behind Act for our son. Accommodations and support that Ryan so desperately needs to succeed in school, have not materialized. We have a very wealthy school district but for our kids, the LD (learning difference) kids...they fall through the cracks.
People have got to wake up. Just listen to Jenny McCarthy speak re: her son and what she's been through. WHEN is the medical community going to rise up and get a conscience? I have FOIA documentation re: a secret meeting held years ago wherein the thimerosal issue was being discussed. In that meeting, one particular physician commented that his grandson was being born that very night and he was going to make sure that HIS grandson was NOT going to get vaccinated with any mercury laden vaccine.
Well...what about the other babies he has no problem vaccinating? What about them?
We have literally been through hell and back because of this issue. It's time the collective mindset in our medical community wake up and smell the cappuccino. Vaccines are dangerous for many children and adults. I have friends who have been compensated by VAERS for the loss/death of their children, DUE TO VACCINES.
So don't tell me this is hocus pocus. That's just not true. And it's about time someone like Jenny McCarthy speaks out and tells the truth about what is going on.
As most of you know, I have been extremely vocal about what happened to our now 14 year old son, Ryan. He suffered horribly from vaccine reactions as an infant, so much so, that after his 4 month shots, in which he received the whole cell DPT vaccine, his reaction was so severe, they exempted him from the pertussis component of the DPT vaccine. However, even w/o the pertussis component in the DT vaccine given to him at the age of six months, he still suffered a reaction.
Marthatex, you should take the time to read what Dr. Boyd Haley states about mercury being injected into anyone, much less infants. He is a world reknown expert re: mercury toxicity.
Here is a quote from Dr. Haley re: mercury/vaccines:
"Well, there are a lot of things that happen, and on top of inhibiting their ability to make hemoglobin, which we just talked about in detail, lets talk about the affect on the immune system. What we know is that Thimerosal, at one nanomolar or lower concentrationsand when we say nanomolar, lets put it in perspectivethe vaccine contains 125,000 nanomolar level of mercury if it has Thimerosal as a preservative. Thats a huge amount. And one nanomolar levels in the baby will prevent the macrophages from going through phagocytosis. In other words, they will lose their ability to eat viruses and bacteria that are in the blood that shouldnt be there, and so Thimerosal suppresses the immune system. This is well known and has been well described in the literature for a long time; that mercury is an immune system suppressor and you see that these autistic children have a truckload of immune problems. So you would prevent that from occurring. That is documented research and I dont know how the government can even ignore it, or the agencies of the government can ignore it."
"Now the other thing, there was a paper that came out from the University of California at Davis just recently showing that very low levels of Thimerosal inhibited dendritic cell development thats important in brain and the immune system development, and this was at amazingly low concentrations. This again, while you cant do the experiment on the child, it does show that toxicity of Thimerosal is much, much lower than what the experts from Rochester and other places like that suggest that it was by looking at the death of certain cells. They did not look at depletion of the immune system. They did not look at depletion of your ability to excrete other toxins such as indicated by the inhibition of porphyrin profiles. They have only looked at death. Death is not a good endpoint for looking at toxicity because these autistic children arent dying; theyre being damaged. You can have damage done at much, much lower concentrations than where death is induced."
"So we need to take this methylmercury/ethylmercury argument that they throw out there in context. Theyre talking about significant damage that you can see with a microscope, and the rest of us are talking about damage you only see in the resulting child who has immune problems, mental [cognitive] problems, and numerous other problems. So I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person with the credentials to understand this research would say that Thimerosal wasnt most likely the cause of autism."
"Any child that is lead toxic or has a burden of lead will be much more susceptible to mercury toxicity than one who is totally free of lead. Again, thats something thats been known for 30 or more years. And again, the people on the opposing side totally ignore that factor, yet in the paper the newspaper day after day we see reports of lead toxicity of children in specifically the eastern cities where the lead paint is still on the old houses and in the ground, and wherever theyre getting it. I mean multiple things Maybe in the pipes that theyre drinking water from. If you have a lead toxic child who might survive and might be capable of developing a good I.Q., if you take that lead toxic child and give him an exposure to mercury, you could cause him severe problemsquite different than a child whos not lead toxic. Also, its not only those children, but those who are on antibiotics are much more susceptible to all types of mercury toxicity, because antibiotics have been shown in experiments with rats to prevent the excretion of mercury. So, it builds up in the bodies of these children."
"The same thing with diets: milk diets increase the retention of mercury in the bodies of children. This is a well-published fact. So with all of these things, the diet, the antibiotics and what we call synergistic toxicity of the exposure to other heavy metals, which is rampant in this countryits all over the placeI mean lead exposures, arsenic exposures, cadmium exposures that we cant even explain where they come from, or even copperwe have to consider that that toxic profile; were taking on top of that and purposely injecting mercury in these children. Were not giving them much of a chance, and I think we need to get politically active about this and make laws to stop it." Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley by Teri Small:
Frankly, I see red when someone who calls science 'hocus pocus.' The science that has absolutely, unequivocally uncovered mercury as just ONE ingredient which causes so much harm to these infants vis-a-vis vaccines HAS BEEN COVERED UP. The CDC and the Academy of Pediatrics ought to be ashamed of themselves for covering up the real science re: this issue. Data has been deliberately contamined vis-a-vis poor control samplings, and data has been outright fabricated to suit the CDC's own agenda which claims that thimerosal is NOT, at least in part, responsible for autism and learning disorder issues.
We had to watch our baby boy scream hysterically for hours after his 4 month DPT shot. It was just awful. When I called our pediatrician, he asked me to hold the phone out so that he could hear Ryan's screams. After I did so and got him back on the phone, he became very hushed. He then stated that we should give Ryan Tylenol to try to ease Ryan's obvious pain and then told us to rush Ryan to the emergency room if his screams did not abate within 15 minutes. Thank God the screaming eventually stopped but the next day, when I took Ryan into the pediatrician's office, they told me that his reaction was duly noted in his medical files and that he was never, ever to receive the pertussis component of the DPT vaccine again.
When I asked our ped just what, if anything, had happened to Ryan after that horrible reaction, he very calmly, but firmly explained to me that we would likely see academic issues with Ryan once he started school. Well, thank you very much for that.
We quit vaccinating Ryan after his 6 month reaction. Ryan has since been diagnosed with severe dysgraphia, higher order speech/language issues and profound areas of deficit in the ability to understand math concepts.
We had also thought that he was doing remarkably well in school. Well, that's a whole 'nuther story, as we now know that they've been fake grading this poor kid. He has never received the laptop computer he so desperately needs for his dysgraphia and he is still far behind his peer group level in math. We are now looking at suing our school district because they have not adhered to the IDEA 2004/No Child Left Behind Act for our son. Accommodations and support that Ryan so desperately needs to succeed in school, have not materialized. We have a very wealthy school district but for our kids, the LD (learning difference) kids...they fall through the cracks.
People have got to wake up. Just listen to Jenny McCarthy speak re: her son and what she's been through. WHEN is the medical community going to rise up and get a conscience? I have FOIA documentation re: a secret meeting held years ago wherein the thimerosal issue was being discussed. In that meeting, one particular physician commented that his grandson was being born that very night and he was going to make sure that HIS grandson was NOT going to get vaccinated with any mercury laden vaccine.
Well...what about the other babies he has no problem vaccinating? What about them?
We have literally been through hell and back because of this issue. It's time the collective mindset in our medical community wake up and smell the cappuccino. Vaccines are dangerous for many children and adults. I have friends who have been compensated by VAERS for the loss/death of their children, DUE TO VACCINES.
So don't tell me this is hocus pocus. That's just not true. And it's about time someone like Jenny McCarthy speaks out and tells the truth about what is going on.
Kim Ii
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Here is a YOUTUBE video regarding HOW MERCURY CAUSES NERVE DEGENERATION:
http://www.livevideo.com/video/CD9E...-vaccination-inside-the-.aspx?lastvcid=398095
http://www.livevideo.com/video/CD9E...-vaccination-inside-the-.aspx?lastvcid=398095
Marthatex
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I have absolutely no doubt that Mercury is harmful, especially above a certain level. Indeed, we are told not to eat too much of certain fish - and we all knew of the mercury/tuna scare.
Hasn't the Thermesol (sp?) been removed from childrens' shots? I have not doubt that a high mercury level would be more harmful to children.
However, once again, the research simply doesn't show proof that Autism is/was caused by the shots. You can argue it till the day is long, but it is not conclusive yet, according to all the latest news stories.
The "hocus pocus" I was referring to was the idea of "not giving any shots to children". Doctors think and know that would be harmful; there are whooping cough epidemics now.
Yes, babies do cry after the shot and get some fever. However, most doctors believe this is better than getting the diseases, which kill children.
We even have had more polio cases as of late. Polio is DEVASTING; causes paralysis and death.
As I said, I asked for the low-mercury flu shot. I do believe too much mercury is bad, and we can't always depend on the "powers that be" to protect us or inform us. It's shocking to have all these cold medications taken away; turns out they don't help young children that much anyway, and there have been some deaths.
I think we should read up and discuss any medicines our children take; proper dosage, side effects etc. I recommend the Johns Hopkins Drug Book.
I apologize for the "hocus pocus"; I didn't mean that toward parents of Autism; I truly sympathize with anyone who has a child with this difficult and confusing condition. I know they are trying to look for causes and cures, and if children can be caught early it can be a great help. Isn't Jenny McCarthy's child showing improvement? Evidently there are more and less severe cases.
Once again, keep in mind we get alot more mercury from the air we breathe than from any shot - especially if you live near coal mines or high congestion from autos.
Hasn't the Thermesol (sp?) been removed from childrens' shots? I have not doubt that a high mercury level would be more harmful to children.
However, once again, the research simply doesn't show proof that Autism is/was caused by the shots. You can argue it till the day is long, but it is not conclusive yet, according to all the latest news stories.
The "hocus pocus" I was referring to was the idea of "not giving any shots to children". Doctors think and know that would be harmful; there are whooping cough epidemics now.
Yes, babies do cry after the shot and get some fever. However, most doctors believe this is better than getting the diseases, which kill children.
We even have had more polio cases as of late. Polio is DEVASTING; causes paralysis and death.
As I said, I asked for the low-mercury flu shot. I do believe too much mercury is bad, and we can't always depend on the "powers that be" to protect us or inform us. It's shocking to have all these cold medications taken away; turns out they don't help young children that much anyway, and there have been some deaths.
I think we should read up and discuss any medicines our children take; proper dosage, side effects etc. I recommend the Johns Hopkins Drug Book.
I apologize for the "hocus pocus"; I didn't mean that toward parents of Autism; I truly sympathize with anyone who has a child with this difficult and confusing condition. I know they are trying to look for causes and cures, and if children can be caught early it can be a great help. Isn't Jenny McCarthy's child showing improvement? Evidently there are more and less severe cases.
Once again, keep in mind we get alot more mercury from the air we breathe than from any shot - especially if you live near coal mines or high congestion from autos.
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A neutral source needs to fund studies, NOT THE CDC, who of course don't want to find that their pet products cause anything.
A study vs. vaxed and un-vaxed chlidren has never been done because of the "unethicalities."
It's not just the trace amounts of thimerosol that are the worry (trace amounts too small to "count" as being in a vax...yes it's nowhere like they used to be, but for me, that's even too much), it's not just the live viruses, it's a whole slew of other changes that are happening. The current schedule is very messed up (the blood/brain barrier dosn't even close until age 6) and even more frightening, many docs want preemies vaxed on their schedule, not for the adjusted age! Children are receiving many more vaxes than years ago. Children also receive the same dosage as an adult would. In the meantime, the media and doctors spread fear of diseases and blatant lies and misinformation. They don't educate parents on even the basics of immunology. The CDC is panicking because more and more parents are not just taking what they say is gospel, that more parents educating themselves and realizing that they don't have to vax on the CDC's schedule, accept all the vaxes, or even vax at all. Some will educate themselves and still vax...and that's fine too, at least they aren't doing it blindly because it's just something that is done.
People want concrete proof. They want a study funded by the CDC stating that most everything they have ever told us is a lie or misinformation and that there most certainly is a link. IT. WILL. NEVER. HAPPEN. Vaccines are their pet product, make millions and billions of dollars for them. The proof is there for those who choose to recognize it, and those people are stepping up to the plate and demanding change. For those that refuse to see it or cannot see it, then so be it, nothing will convince you.
Until the CDC changes their schedule, makes a vaccine that 100 guarantees no side effects and 100% immunity I will not put my son at risk. I will continue to do what I have been doing for myself for years...making sure there is adequate nutrition, good sanitation, clean water, taking care of my child if he is sick by not exposing him to others, and most of all educating myself---educating myself to learn about these illnesses, learning how to prevent the complications that can lead to harm (the diseases themselves don't kill, the complications of the disease, many times---though not always--from improper treatment--do. If getting the disease itself was what was so deadly, NO ONE would be alive today because our forebearers would have all been wiped out). I am not afraid of these diseases in the least...I have a good knowledge and good naturopath and allopathic doctors that will help if it goes beyond my knowledge. Regardless if one vaxes or not, these are things that ALL parents should be doing.
A study vs. vaxed and un-vaxed chlidren has never been done because of the "unethicalities."
It's not just the trace amounts of thimerosol that are the worry (trace amounts too small to "count" as being in a vax...yes it's nowhere like they used to be, but for me, that's even too much), it's not just the live viruses, it's a whole slew of other changes that are happening. The current schedule is very messed up (the blood/brain barrier dosn't even close until age 6) and even more frightening, many docs want preemies vaxed on their schedule, not for the adjusted age! Children are receiving many more vaxes than years ago. Children also receive the same dosage as an adult would. In the meantime, the media and doctors spread fear of diseases and blatant lies and misinformation. They don't educate parents on even the basics of immunology. The CDC is panicking because more and more parents are not just taking what they say is gospel, that more parents educating themselves and realizing that they don't have to vax on the CDC's schedule, accept all the vaxes, or even vax at all. Some will educate themselves and still vax...and that's fine too, at least they aren't doing it blindly because it's just something that is done.
People want concrete proof. They want a study funded by the CDC stating that most everything they have ever told us is a lie or misinformation and that there most certainly is a link. IT. WILL. NEVER. HAPPEN. Vaccines are their pet product, make millions and billions of dollars for them. The proof is there for those who choose to recognize it, and those people are stepping up to the plate and demanding change. For those that refuse to see it or cannot see it, then so be it, nothing will convince you.
Until the CDC changes their schedule, makes a vaccine that 100 guarantees no side effects and 100% immunity I will not put my son at risk. I will continue to do what I have been doing for myself for years...making sure there is adequate nutrition, good sanitation, clean water, taking care of my child if he is sick by not exposing him to others, and most of all educating myself---educating myself to learn about these illnesses, learning how to prevent the complications that can lead to harm (the diseases themselves don't kill, the complications of the disease, many times---though not always--from improper treatment--do. If getting the disease itself was what was so deadly, NO ONE would be alive today because our forebearers would have all been wiped out). I am not afraid of these diseases in the least...I have a good knowledge and good naturopath and allopathic doctors that will help if it goes beyond my knowledge. Regardless if one vaxes or not, these are things that ALL parents should be doing.
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Kim Ii
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Martha,
Did you even read what Dr. Haley has stated? The mercury children breathe is NOT being injected into their blood streams! I'm no scientist, but PLEASE read what Dr. Haley states about this. Further, you can find many more interviews given by this wonderful man, who can clearly articulate much better than I can, as to the toxicity of bolus doses of mercury being injected into our children.
Also, it is NOT true that mercury has been taken out of all vaccines. Another good source for information re: vaccines and the harm they can do is through Vaccine Liberation, run by Ingri Cassel. I know Ingri...she's a good friend. I have learned an incredible wealth of information from Ingri. Her mother is Walene James.
There's just not enough time in the day to go over everything I've learned re: vaccines on this forum. I have reams and reams of documentation and folders crammed with an enormous amount of information as to the real harm vaccines can cause and the information which has been kept from the public eye. I have an interview given by an anonymous vaccine researcher who gave his interview under cover, as he was afraid for his life as he testified to what he has learned during his career re: vaccines and their harmful side effects.
There's just an enormous wealth of information out there...READ it. The propaganda that's been spewed about the great benefits of vaccines is just not true. I used to vacillate about that one...I never wanted to admit that I am totally anti-vaccine, but I have absolutely no qualms in saying this now.
Did you even read what Dr. Haley has stated? The mercury children breathe is NOT being injected into their blood streams! I'm no scientist, but PLEASE read what Dr. Haley states about this. Further, you can find many more interviews given by this wonderful man, who can clearly articulate much better than I can, as to the toxicity of bolus doses of mercury being injected into our children.
Also, it is NOT true that mercury has been taken out of all vaccines. Another good source for information re: vaccines and the harm they can do is through Vaccine Liberation, run by Ingri Cassel. I know Ingri...she's a good friend. I have learned an incredible wealth of information from Ingri. Her mother is Walene James.
There's just not enough time in the day to go over everything I've learned re: vaccines on this forum. I have reams and reams of documentation and folders crammed with an enormous amount of information as to the real harm vaccines can cause and the information which has been kept from the public eye. I have an interview given by an anonymous vaccine researcher who gave his interview under cover, as he was afraid for his life as he testified to what he has learned during his career re: vaccines and their harmful side effects.
There's just an enormous wealth of information out there...READ it. The propaganda that's been spewed about the great benefits of vaccines is just not true. I used to vacillate about that one...I never wanted to admit that I am totally anti-vaccine, but I have absolutely no qualms in saying this now.
Holy smokes this is a most frightening post .Question for all.. is this the prevailing belief or is this an aberration?Am I understanding you to say that these diseases we have generally eradicated are not deadly because there were survivors as well as people that did not get it?
Agree or disagree,I appreciate and admire all the research that many of you do, particularly those of you that are anti-vaccine. But if this is the prevailing thought process, it undermines the credibility of much of it.IMO.
Kim Ii
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Here is another great link re: mercury toxicity: http://tuberose.com/Mercury.html;
And a snip:
"How is it that mercury is not safe for food additives and Over the Counter drug products, but it is safe in our vaccines and dental amalgams?"--Represenative Dan Burton (R-IN)
"The evidence tells me very succinctly that there is a chronic low-dose exposure to a toxic heavy metal that 80-85 per cent of the industrialised world have implanted in their teeth, and it's a situation of timed-release poisoning."--Dr Murray Vimy, research scientist and former World Health Organization consultant"
"..there is no safe level of mercury, and no one has actually shown that there is a safe level. I would say mercury is a very toxic substance..."--Dr Lars Friberg, Former Chief Adviser to the World Health Organization on Mercury safety.
"...if they have as few as 4 amalgam fillings present in their mouth, the average person's saliva is so high in mercury they cannot legally spit into the toilet. Their saliva exceeds the EPA maximum legal municipal discharge standard for mercury.".--David Kennedy D.D.S.
"Mercury is one of the most toxic elements on the planet, probably second only to plutonium, yet worldwide people have it in all tissues of their bodies, and it continues to be dumped into our waterways and soil, placed into our teeth, and injected into our bodies. If a single large amalgam filling contained 1 gram of mercury (1 million micrograms) and lost a significantly toxic 10 micrograms per day there would be enough mercury for 100,000 days or about 274 years of exposure. A small tenth of a gram mercury filling would last 27 years. So enough mercury is within amalgam fillings to provide a consistent chronic toxic exposure for the life of most fillings. A 1997 report by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, say nothing deposits more inorganic mercury into the body than fillings. The ADA notes that mercury has been used for 160 years--since blacksmiths and barbers won out over medical professionals, who preferred to pull teeth or fill them with gold."
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Dr. Boyd Haley believes that the CDC and the FDA are strongly influenced by the pharmaceutical and vaccine industries and that they have been derelict in their duty to safeguard the health of the American People. As a result of their delinquency, we have been systematically poisoned by mercury derived from silver amalgam fillings in our teeth and our children, especially boys, have been severely damaged by vaccines containing thimerosal.
And a snip:
"How is it that mercury is not safe for food additives and Over the Counter drug products, but it is safe in our vaccines and dental amalgams?"--Represenative Dan Burton (R-IN)
"The evidence tells me very succinctly that there is a chronic low-dose exposure to a toxic heavy metal that 80-85 per cent of the industrialised world have implanted in their teeth, and it's a situation of timed-release poisoning."--Dr Murray Vimy, research scientist and former World Health Organization consultant"
"..there is no safe level of mercury, and no one has actually shown that there is a safe level. I would say mercury is a very toxic substance..."--Dr Lars Friberg, Former Chief Adviser to the World Health Organization on Mercury safety.
"...if they have as few as 4 amalgam fillings present in their mouth, the average person's saliva is so high in mercury they cannot legally spit into the toilet. Their saliva exceeds the EPA maximum legal municipal discharge standard for mercury.".--David Kennedy D.D.S.
"Mercury is one of the most toxic elements on the planet, probably second only to plutonium, yet worldwide people have it in all tissues of their bodies, and it continues to be dumped into our waterways and soil, placed into our teeth, and injected into our bodies. If a single large amalgam filling contained 1 gram of mercury (1 million micrograms) and lost a significantly toxic 10 micrograms per day there would be enough mercury for 100,000 days or about 274 years of exposure. A small tenth of a gram mercury filling would last 27 years. So enough mercury is within amalgam fillings to provide a consistent chronic toxic exposure for the life of most fillings. A 1997 report by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, say nothing deposits more inorganic mercury into the body than fillings. The ADA notes that mercury has been used for 160 years--since blacksmiths and barbers won out over medical professionals, who preferred to pull teeth or fill them with gold."
_
Dr. Boyd Haley believes that the CDC and the FDA are strongly influenced by the pharmaceutical and vaccine industries and that they have been derelict in their duty to safeguard the health of the American People. As a result of their delinquency, we have been systematically poisoned by mercury derived from silver amalgam fillings in our teeth and our children, especially boys, have been severely damaged by vaccines containing thimerosal.
Kim Ii
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Thimerosal is not being removed from the vaccines given to hundreds of millions of children around the world.
"Until recently the CDC admitted that the nervous system is very sensitive to all forms of mercury and that exposure to high levels of metallic, inorganic, or organic mercury can permanently damage the brain, kidneys, and developing fetus. In 1999, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) determined that under the recommended childhood immunization schedule infants might be exposed to cumulative doses of ethylmercury that exceed some federal safety guidelines established for the oral ingestion of methylmercury. Effects on brain functioning may include irritability, tremors, and changes in vision or hearing, attention, language, and memory problems. They also admit that the effects of short-term exposure to high levels of metallic mercury vapors may include lung damage, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, increases in blood pressure or heart rate, skin rashes, and eye irritation."
"The CDC also admitted that researchers in one study found statistically significant associations between thimerosal and several neurodevelopmental disorders, including language delays, speech delays, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), unspecified developmental delays, stammering, sleep disorders, emotional disorders, and tics. Yet the CDC will not admit any correlation between the use of thimerosal in vaccines and the complaints of thousands of desperate parents. In contrast, the US General Accounting Office said in 1999 "[a] vaccine can have severe side effects, including death or disabling conditions requiring lifetime medical care." And it should be noted that the American Pediatrics Association (APA) had posted on their web site in 2003 that, An early CDC study suggested a possible weak connection between the amount of thimerosal given and certain neurodevelopmental disorders, such as ADHD, speech and language delays, and tics. The APA has stated, Even though theres no evidence that thimerosal in vaccines is dangerous, the Public Health Service and the American Academy of Pediatrics believe the effort to remove mercury-based preservatives from vaccines was a good decision. By taking thimerosal out of vaccines, we are lessening the amount of mercury a child will be exposed to early in life.
"Any competent biochemist would look at the structure of thimerosal and
identify it as a potent enzyme inhibitor. What is surprising is that the appropriate animal and laboratory testing was not done on the vaccines containing thimerosal (and aluminum) before the government embarked on a mandated vaccine program that exposed infants to the levels of thimerosal that occurred."
Boyd E. Haley, PhD
"On October 31, 2003 medical doctor and congressmen Dave Weldon wrote to Dr. Julie Gerberding the director of the Center for Disease Control (CDC) confronting deliberate data manipulates in the all important study of the role of mercury found in vaccines and the development of autism. A vitally important study, which originally showed a legally and scientifically significant causal connection between autism and mercury in vaccines was subverted by officials of the CDC to show no causal connection according to documents recording the discussions at a secret meeting between the author of the study and the CDC. The U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) special council Scott J. Bloch, in a recent letter to congress said that, the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration colluded with pharmaceutical companies at a conference in Norcross, Georgia, in June 2000, to prevent the release of a study which showed a statistical correlation between thimerosal/mercury exposure through pediatric vaccines and neurological disorders, including autism, Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder, stuttering, tics and speech and language delays. Instead of releasing the data presented at the conference, the author of the study, Dr. Thomas Verstraeten, later published a different version of the study in the November 2003 issue of Pediatrics, which did not show a statistical correlation. No explanation has been provided for this discrepancy.
"In the late nineteen nineties a researcher named Dr. Thomas Verstraten worked at the CDC on a study of 76,659 children to determine if thimerosal might be causing neurological problems like autism. A February 2000 draft of Verstraeten's study, obtained by United Press International, appears to show that thimerosal might cause brain problems. That draft cited "increasing risks of neurological developmental disorders with increasing cumulative exposure to thimerosal. We can state that this analysis does not rule out that receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccine in children under 3 months of age may be related to an increased risk of neurologic developmental disorders," the study said. To discuss the findings in Dr. Verstraeten's study, the CDC convened a meeting at the Simpsonwood Retreat Center in Norcross, Ga., on June 7-8, 2000. The agency invited vaccine experts and representatives of four vaccine manufacturers. After discussing that study, Dr. David Johnson, a Michigan state public health officer advising the CDC on vaccines, said that the findings were troubling, according to a transcript. "My gut feeling? It worries me enough," said Johnson. "I do not want my grandson to get a thimerosal-containing vaccine until we know better what is going on." Later in the same conversation, CDC officials agreed to keep the study private. In October 2001, the Institute of Medicine panel that heard from Verstraeten found that it is "biologically plausible" that thimerosal causes autism, but that, "current scientific evidence neither proves nor disproves a link."
Mercury poisoning and autism have nearly identical symptoms: self-injurious behavior, social withdrawal, lack of eye contact, lack of facial expression,
hypersensitivity to noise and touch, and repetitive behaviors.
What we see coming through the parents histories over and over again
in our office is that the developmental delays began after the vaccines."
Stephanie Cave, MD
"Mercury is a neurotoxin, and ethylmercury is the active component of thimerosal, and as a precautionary public health effort to minimize exposure of mercury to infants and children, a joint statement was issued in July 1999 by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the U.S. Public Health Service recommending the removal of thimerosal from vaccines as soon as possible. Today, most routinely recommended pediatric vaccines manufactured for the U.S. market still contain thimerosal, though according to the IOM, only trace amounts remain. Back in 1999, Dr Neal Halsey who heads the Hopkins Institute for Vaccine Safety said, my first reaction was simply disbelief, which was the reaction of almost everybody involved in vaccines. In most vaccine containers, thimerosal is listed as a mercury derivative, a hundredth of a percent. And what I believed, and what everybody else believed, was that it was truly a trace, a biologically insignificant amount. My honest belief is that if the labels had had the mercury content in micrograms, this would have been uncovered years ago. But the fact is, no one did the calculation. "From the beginning, I saw thimerosal as something different. It was the first strong evidence of a causal association with neurological impairment. I was very concerned."
"Assessments made by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) scientists were particularly painful to Dr. Halsey. They found that the vaccines added to the standard regimen, during Dr. Halsey's years as chairman of the the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) committee that determines which vaccinations should be mandated for children, had tripled the dose of mercury administered to infants in the first months of life. The amount, according to the FDA scientists, was high enough to cause subtle neurological impairment, and thus, in 1999, the FDA asked vaccine manufacturers to remove thimerosal, a preservative that contains mercury, from all the vaccines that are routinely administered to children."
"Until recently the CDC admitted that the nervous system is very sensitive to all forms of mercury and that exposure to high levels of metallic, inorganic, or organic mercury can permanently damage the brain, kidneys, and developing fetus. In 1999, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) determined that under the recommended childhood immunization schedule infants might be exposed to cumulative doses of ethylmercury that exceed some federal safety guidelines established for the oral ingestion of methylmercury. Effects on brain functioning may include irritability, tremors, and changes in vision or hearing, attention, language, and memory problems. They also admit that the effects of short-term exposure to high levels of metallic mercury vapors may include lung damage, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, increases in blood pressure or heart rate, skin rashes, and eye irritation."
"The CDC also admitted that researchers in one study found statistically significant associations between thimerosal and several neurodevelopmental disorders, including language delays, speech delays, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), unspecified developmental delays, stammering, sleep disorders, emotional disorders, and tics. Yet the CDC will not admit any correlation between the use of thimerosal in vaccines and the complaints of thousands of desperate parents. In contrast, the US General Accounting Office said in 1999 "[a] vaccine can have severe side effects, including death or disabling conditions requiring lifetime medical care." And it should be noted that the American Pediatrics Association (APA) had posted on their web site in 2003 that, An early CDC study suggested a possible weak connection between the amount of thimerosal given and certain neurodevelopmental disorders, such as ADHD, speech and language delays, and tics. The APA has stated, Even though theres no evidence that thimerosal in vaccines is dangerous, the Public Health Service and the American Academy of Pediatrics believe the effort to remove mercury-based preservatives from vaccines was a good decision. By taking thimerosal out of vaccines, we are lessening the amount of mercury a child will be exposed to early in life.
"Any competent biochemist would look at the structure of thimerosal and
identify it as a potent enzyme inhibitor. What is surprising is that the appropriate animal and laboratory testing was not done on the vaccines containing thimerosal (and aluminum) before the government embarked on a mandated vaccine program that exposed infants to the levels of thimerosal that occurred."
Boyd E. Haley, PhD
"On October 31, 2003 medical doctor and congressmen Dave Weldon wrote to Dr. Julie Gerberding the director of the Center for Disease Control (CDC) confronting deliberate data manipulates in the all important study of the role of mercury found in vaccines and the development of autism. A vitally important study, which originally showed a legally and scientifically significant causal connection between autism and mercury in vaccines was subverted by officials of the CDC to show no causal connection according to documents recording the discussions at a secret meeting between the author of the study and the CDC. The U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) special council Scott J. Bloch, in a recent letter to congress said that, the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration colluded with pharmaceutical companies at a conference in Norcross, Georgia, in June 2000, to prevent the release of a study which showed a statistical correlation between thimerosal/mercury exposure through pediatric vaccines and neurological disorders, including autism, Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder, stuttering, tics and speech and language delays. Instead of releasing the data presented at the conference, the author of the study, Dr. Thomas Verstraeten, later published a different version of the study in the November 2003 issue of Pediatrics, which did not show a statistical correlation. No explanation has been provided for this discrepancy.
"In the late nineteen nineties a researcher named Dr. Thomas Verstraten worked at the CDC on a study of 76,659 children to determine if thimerosal might be causing neurological problems like autism. A February 2000 draft of Verstraeten's study, obtained by United Press International, appears to show that thimerosal might cause brain problems. That draft cited "increasing risks of neurological developmental disorders with increasing cumulative exposure to thimerosal. We can state that this analysis does not rule out that receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccine in children under 3 months of age may be related to an increased risk of neurologic developmental disorders," the study said. To discuss the findings in Dr. Verstraeten's study, the CDC convened a meeting at the Simpsonwood Retreat Center in Norcross, Ga., on June 7-8, 2000. The agency invited vaccine experts and representatives of four vaccine manufacturers. After discussing that study, Dr. David Johnson, a Michigan state public health officer advising the CDC on vaccines, said that the findings were troubling, according to a transcript. "My gut feeling? It worries me enough," said Johnson. "I do not want my grandson to get a thimerosal-containing vaccine until we know better what is going on." Later in the same conversation, CDC officials agreed to keep the study private. In October 2001, the Institute of Medicine panel that heard from Verstraeten found that it is "biologically plausible" that thimerosal causes autism, but that, "current scientific evidence neither proves nor disproves a link."
Mercury poisoning and autism have nearly identical symptoms: self-injurious behavior, social withdrawal, lack of eye contact, lack of facial expression,
hypersensitivity to noise and touch, and repetitive behaviors.
What we see coming through the parents histories over and over again
in our office is that the developmental delays began after the vaccines."
Stephanie Cave, MD
"Mercury is a neurotoxin, and ethylmercury is the active component of thimerosal, and as a precautionary public health effort to minimize exposure of mercury to infants and children, a joint statement was issued in July 1999 by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the U.S. Public Health Service recommending the removal of thimerosal from vaccines as soon as possible. Today, most routinely recommended pediatric vaccines manufactured for the U.S. market still contain thimerosal, though according to the IOM, only trace amounts remain. Back in 1999, Dr Neal Halsey who heads the Hopkins Institute for Vaccine Safety said, my first reaction was simply disbelief, which was the reaction of almost everybody involved in vaccines. In most vaccine containers, thimerosal is listed as a mercury derivative, a hundredth of a percent. And what I believed, and what everybody else believed, was that it was truly a trace, a biologically insignificant amount. My honest belief is that if the labels had had the mercury content in micrograms, this would have been uncovered years ago. But the fact is, no one did the calculation. "From the beginning, I saw thimerosal as something different. It was the first strong evidence of a causal association with neurological impairment. I was very concerned."
"Assessments made by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) scientists were particularly painful to Dr. Halsey. They found that the vaccines added to the standard regimen, during Dr. Halsey's years as chairman of the the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) committee that determines which vaccinations should be mandated for children, had tripled the dose of mercury administered to infants in the first months of life. The amount, according to the FDA scientists, was high enough to cause subtle neurological impairment, and thus, in 1999, the FDA asked vaccine manufacturers to remove thimerosal, a preservative that contains mercury, from all the vaccines that are routinely administered to children."
Kim Ii
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I am having trouble posting my link to the above article for some reason. When I figure out how to post this pdf format article, I will post my link to the above article...
Anyone who would claim that because we MAY breathe more mercury in the air than we take in via vaccine absorption (I'd like to see the stats on that), MUST mean that the mercury, not to mention the other adjuvants contained in vaccines which can cause harm), doesn't harm these kids/adults, is woefully misinformed. Sounds to me like something coming from Paul Offit's rhetoric re: 'vaccines are as safe as candy' quote.
I have also been a member of the National Vaccine Information Center for over a decade. There is a wealth of information on that website as well. Barbara Loe Fisher started this organization after her son, too, suffered horrendous side effects from the whole cell DPT vaccine as an infant.
The list of known cause and effects of vaccines just goes on and on and on. Efforts to quell parental fears about vaccines is not working, as more and more infants become sick. Autism is usually diagnosed at around the age of 3. Our schools are buckling under the pressure with having to support with accommodations these kids...kids you didn't see when I was in school.
The time will come when medical science will have to face up to what they've done to so many of our children and adults because of the known harm vaccines have caused. I am currently researching the numbers of side effects and deaths regarding the new vaccine Gardasil. It's just appalling what is happening here, and the one researcher who actually worked for over 20 years on this vaccine, who has actually come out and stated quite vocally her misgivings about the PR being done on this vaccine, is, of course, blacked out by our media. You won't hear about her on ABC News Tonight.
Parents need to start thinking for themselves and do their own research BEFORE vaccinating. More and more researchers, scientists, physicians, etc., are now becoming much more vocal about the harmful effects vaccines can cause.
Anyone who would claim that because we MAY breathe more mercury in the air than we take in via vaccine absorption (I'd like to see the stats on that), MUST mean that the mercury, not to mention the other adjuvants contained in vaccines which can cause harm), doesn't harm these kids/adults, is woefully misinformed. Sounds to me like something coming from Paul Offit's rhetoric re: 'vaccines are as safe as candy' quote.
I have also been a member of the National Vaccine Information Center for over a decade. There is a wealth of information on that website as well. Barbara Loe Fisher started this organization after her son, too, suffered horrendous side effects from the whole cell DPT vaccine as an infant.
The list of known cause and effects of vaccines just goes on and on and on. Efforts to quell parental fears about vaccines is not working, as more and more infants become sick. Autism is usually diagnosed at around the age of 3. Our schools are buckling under the pressure with having to support with accommodations these kids...kids you didn't see when I was in school.
The time will come when medical science will have to face up to what they've done to so many of our children and adults because of the known harm vaccines have caused. I am currently researching the numbers of side effects and deaths regarding the new vaccine Gardasil. It's just appalling what is happening here, and the one researcher who actually worked for over 20 years on this vaccine, who has actually come out and stated quite vocally her misgivings about the PR being done on this vaccine, is, of course, blacked out by our media. You won't hear about her on ABC News Tonight.
Parents need to start thinking for themselves and do their own research BEFORE vaccinating. More and more researchers, scientists, physicians, etc., are now becoming much more vocal about the harmful effects vaccines can cause.
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