redheadedgal
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i have a headache.
PMPT - on Dec 26, JR told (Acting) Cmdr of Detectives Larry Mason that he was going to ATL because he had "something really important to attend to"
IRMI - during the June interviews, ST asked JR about the plan to return to ATL: because he "wasn't thinking clearly" and because PR "enjoys the country club and the shopping there, and she can't find lipstick in Boulder"
FF - on Dec 26, JR told Detective Bill Palmer that he had "an important business meeting" in ATL
Throw her down the stairs, than say you found her lying there – dead – when you got up the next morning. Say that she must have gotten up in the middle of the night to snack on a bit of pineapple, and d*mn those spiral stairs, anyway!
Don’t call the police, don’t create any self-incriminating evidence, don’t sexually assault her at or near point of death and don’t garrote her. Throw her down the stairs, wait til morning, call an ambulance or take her – dead – directly to the hospital. Call your lawyers. Get outta Dodge.
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BBM
What?????!!!!!! :waitasec: :facepalm:
I had to check the google books copy to read that for myself. I.......I'm seriously stunned that he would give such an answer while being formally questioned about the brutal murder of his child.
Well, Atlanta DOES have fabulous shopping.rincess:
Page number, please?BBM
What?????!!!!!! :waitasec: :facepalm:
I had to check the google books copy to read that for myself. I.......I'm seriously stunned that he would give such an answer while being formally questioned about the brutal murder of his child.
Page number, please?
PMPT & IRMI don't mention an important business meeting, and the only pertinent information I've found in FF doesn't refer to a business meeting either. (Page number/chapter, please?)PMPT - on Dec 26, JR told (Acting) Cmdr of Detectives Larry Mason that he was going to ATL because he had "something really important to attend to"
IRMI - during the June interviews, ST asked JR about the plan to return to ATL: because he "wasn't thinking clearly" and because PR "enjoys the country club and the shopping there, and she can't find lipstick in Boulder"
FF - on Dec 26, JR told Detective Bill Palmer that he had "an important business meeting" in ATL
I want the context.You have an exact quote and the source...
Scratching my head...
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JR - after JB was discovered he was overheard on the phone telling his pilot that they would indeed be flying out shortly; upon hearing this, LE told him that he could not leave and his response was that he had an important meeting scheduled back east
BBMWhat is so frustrating about this is that in reality JR had planned to fly to Charlevoix to meet up with his older kids, then head out on a Disney cruise where they would be celebrating Patsy's 40th birthday. This wasn't a spur-of-the-moment vacation. It was PLANNED in advance. NOW all of a sudden he has an "important business meeting"? We KNOW he wouldn't have planned a meeting at that time. WHY wasn't he confronted about that? Even if he had one- would this be something any innocent man would do having just brought up his little girl's stiff, cold dead body from the basement? This defies all reason. And once again- the moment came and went without a single challenge. If they were innocent, they would have never wanted to leave before police investigated the murder. Notice he piped up with that "important meeting" crap almost immediately. Not a word about keeping his son out of danger. These were the words of a man who KNEW his family was not in danger.
Except for the version quoted from IRMI (which Ill get to last), is there really that much of a difference or variation other than the exact words used to describe Ramseys reason given for wanting to leave? PMPT and FF both give accounts of the conversation between Ramsey and either Mason or Palmer:Thank you, cynic & Venom.
To recap, so far among just three sources cited, we have 3 (to 4) variations of "the story"...
According to Schiller, (PMPT, p. 26 nook) Mr. Ramsey told Sergeant Mason "he had something really important to attend to." (1999)
According to Thomas, (IRMI, p. 361):"The reason for giving the early instruction to his pilot to get the plane ready was he wasn't thinking clearly and just wanted to take his wife and son 'home to Atlanta.'" (Thomas, 2000)
According to Kolar, (FF: WRKJB, p. 41):"At approximately 1340 hours, Detective Bill Palmer overheard John Ramsey speaking on the phone and making arrangements to fly to Atlanta that afternoon or evening. Upon the conclusion of the phone call, Palmer told Ramsey that he couldn't leave town as he would need to stay to assist in the investigation of the murder of his daughter.
The nature of this call was passed along to Mason, and he too spoke with Ramsey about leaving town. John Ramsey reportedly told Mason that he had to leave to attend a meeting 'he couldn't miss.' Sergeant Mason eventually convinced the father of the murdered child of the necessity of remaining in Boulder."
(Kolar, 2012)
Again, according to Kolar, (FF: WRKJB, p. 324):"It seemed incomprehensible to me that John Ramsey, within less than an hour of the discovery of the body his daughter, would be making arrangements to take his family and leave the state by private plane. When overheard making these arrangements with his pilot, Ramsey told Detective Bill Palmer that he had an important business meeting to attend in Georgia." (Kolar, 2012)
Here are my questions about it: Who would schedule a meeting on the day after Christmas? What kind of meeting would come up on the day after Christmas? Who was working then? When did he find out about it? Why didnt he say anything about it before the detective overheard him on the phone arranging new plans to fly out of Boulder to Atlanta?