People being detained and "exported" by ICE

[SouthAussie]

President Trump on Kilmar Abrego Garcia case: “If the Supreme Court said bring somebody back, I would do that. I respect the Supreme Court… I’m not talking about the lower court.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1910865563921895488

Well then, do it ..... Supreme Court rules U.S. must facilitate return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from El Salvador (Apr 10th)

 

[SouthAussie]

I think border security are required to be ruthless, now. There's probably special training- the opposite of customer service: customer abuse.

And if they don't like the documentation, they're not going to give someone the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he just needs to refresh his visa, so it has a recent date.

However, I do think people who want to essentially live permanently in any foreign country, need more than a temporary work visa.

JMO

Yes, though a green card wouldn't necessarily offer him more protection. As we have heard.

It is unfortunate that he didn't (presumably) read the updated Aussie Smart Traveller precaution for the US, before he left. Or maybe he did, and took his chances.

The advice for the US didn't used to be like this but they updated it about two weeks ago to mention the new "broad powers". (I received an email when it updated because I am signed up for US travel alerts.)


"US authorities have broad powers to decide if you're eligible to enter and may determine that you are inadmissible for any reason under US law."

United States of America

Australian Government travel advice for United States of America. Learn more about local safety, laws and health risks.

www.smartraveller.gov.au

 

[theprofiler]

I have no idea what I am doing so I am so sorry. I only just heard about this!
Ok *edit* the post is at the end of the thread!
I did see that people are going to the border themselves. Very sad for this. It’s very hard to come to Australia illegally via boat for example. Your chances are slim to none. You WILL be picked up by our border patrol and taken to either Naru or Christmas Island but perhaps it’s changed. I’ve been out of the game for a while now but it use to be either or and the conditions are deplorable.
Villawood Detention Centre is here in Sydney and that’s where the people go prior to deportation and it usually happens after prison time served pending upon charges or convictions. Normally if you join a biker or OLMC Outlaw Motorcycle Club/Gang or gang formed in gaol.

"A federal judge temporarily blocked the Trump administration Friday from deporting people who have exhausted legal appeals to countries other than their own without first being allowed to argue that it would jeopardize their safety.

The decision is a setback for an administration that has sent people to countries including Panama, Costa Rica and El Salvador when it is difficult to deport them to their homelands."

US Judge temporarily halts deportations to third countries without a chance to challenge

A federal judge has temporarily blocked the Trump administration from deporting people who have exhausted legal appeals to countries other than their own without first being allowed to argue that it would jeopardize their safety.

apnews.com

 

[SouthAussie]

I have no idea what I am doing so I am so sorry. I only just heard about this!
Ok *edit* the post is at the end of the thread!
I did see that people are going to the border themselves. Very sad for this. It’s very hard to come to Australia illegally via boat for example. Your chances are slim to none. You WILL be picked up by our border patrol and taken to either Naru or Christmas Island but perhaps it’s changed. I’ve been out of the game for a while now but it use to be either or and the conditions are deplorable.
Villawood Detention Centre is here in Sydney and that’s where the people go prior to deportation and it usually happens after prison time served pending upon charges or convictions. Normally if you join a biker or OLMC Outlaw Motorcycle Club/Gang or gang formed in gaol.

Hi theprofiler

Christmas Island is an external territory of Australia, the Australian Govt can make its laws. Link
Nauru is a former external territory of Australia that still relies heavily on Australian economic aid. Link

But that is a different subject to this thread.

El Salvador, which the US paid $60M to take its deportees has never belonged to the US. It is considered a 3rd world country, and was Spanish, then Central American, and is now an executive republic. It has gone through various dictatorships, and is an oligarchy. Link

I also think that if you do a little research you will notice a huge difference between Aussie "deplorable" and El Salvador "deplorable".
In Nauru they are concerned about not enough counselling for the torture they went through in the country they came from, medical services being too slow, processing being too slow, not having their smartphones. In El Salvador they are concerned about being killed. (Link and Link)

imo

 

[Lilibet]

New subject for discussion:

https://websleuths.com/threads/u-s-tyranny-tracker-starting-20-jan-2025.740980/

 

[Baby baby Jane]

The article states (BBM) .... "He has been living on the US east coast for the better part of a decade – where his American partner, apartment, work studio and clients remain."

Evidently working for clients in his work studio. With a valid work visa ..... "visa was still valid for more than 12 months".

Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial

Man who says he had previously left and re-entered the country multiple times alleges border officials called him ‘retarded’ and boasted ‘Trump is back in town’

www.theguardian.com

A work studio is not an “employer”.

 

[Lilibet]

A work studio is not an “employer”.

He certainly could have an employer if he works from home as so many did during covid and still do.

 

[SouthAussie]

DBM - replied to the wrong post, and couldn't fix it (please see below)

 

[SouthAussie]

A work studio is not an “employer”.

Well, he didn't want to give his name to the media, so he probably didn't want to give his employer's name or his girlfriend's name either. Can't really blame a person for that in the current US climate.

Apparently, there is a work visa (E3) available only for Aussies. It is a 2 year visa, renewable indefinitely. It is for people who are employed in a specialised occupation by a US employer. And there is a long list, though an incomplete list, of examples of these occupations. Sounding as if it is up to the Visa issuer if the occupation is considered specialised.

A few work-studio-related examples that I can see on the incomplete list are:

• Architects
• Arts-related professionals
• Commercial artists, designers, illustrators, graphic arts, product and related designers
• Other occupations in art
• Data and computer scientists
• Digital, communications and computer-related professionals
• Engineers across disciplines including aeronautical, electronic, civil, chemical, industrial, mechanical and nuclear
• Music and other occupations in entertainment and recreation
• Surveyors
• Writers and editors

E3 Visa Occupations: Guide for Australian Workers | NNU Immigration

What are the E3 Visa Speciality Occupations for Australian citizens coming to the US to work?

www.nnuimmigration.com

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

The Independent

Immigration agents turned away after trying to enter LA elementary schools​

Homeland Security officers attempted welfare checks on migrant children at two Los Angeles elementary schools this week, but were turned away, sparking a clash between school officials and the federal agency.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

Traveller Sydney Morning Herald

Entering the US has become more fraught. Here’s what you need to know​

 

[SouthAussie]

MSN

The Independent

Immigration agents turned away after trying to enter LA elementary schools​

Homeland Security officers attempted welfare checks on migrant children at two Los Angeles elementary schools this week, but were turned away, sparking a clash between school officials and the federal agency.

So now they are simply lying ....


Carvalho stated the officers falsely claimed they had parental authorization to contact the children. "We have confirmed that that is a falsehood," Carvalho declared in a Thursday news conference.

He added that the district had contacted the children’s parents and caretakers, who denied any interaction with DHS or granting permission for the school visits.

Employees of Los Angeles Unified School District, the nation's second-largest district, were trained months ago in anticipation of arrivals by federal agents to campuses, Carvalho said.

“I’m still mystified as to how a first, second, third, fourth or sixth grader would pose any type of risk to the national security of our nation that would require Homeland Security to deploy its agents to two elementary schools,” he said.

(from your link)

 

[Lilibet]

MSN

The Independent

Immigration agents turned away after trying to enter LA elementary schools​

Homeland Security officers attempted welfare checks on migrant children at two Los Angeles elementary schools this week, but were turned away, sparking a clash between school officials and the federal agency.

Even if these school visits were actually for the purpose of checking on the welfare of these unaccompanied minors, DHS had to know how intimidating these visits would be. I think that was the purpose. The school principals handled it really well, thanks to prior training.

JMO

 

[Lyanna]

MSN

The Independent

Immigration agents turned away after trying to enter LA elementary schools​

Homeland Security officers attempted welfare checks on migrant children at two Los Angeles elementary schools this week, but were turned away, sparking a clash between school officials and the federal agency.

Good for Carvalho for speaking up. However, I feel we may be seeing a headline in the near future on how he's been removed from his post or something very similar.
On what planet is this remotely acceptable??

Moo

 

[Lilibet]

This could get interesting…

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/military-contractors-prison-plan-detained-immigrants-erik-prince-00287208

Former Blackwater CEO Erik Prince and a team of defense contractors are pitching the White House on a plan to vastly expand deportations to El Salvador — transporting thousands of immigrants from U.S. holding facilities to a sprawling maximum security prison in Central America.

The proposal, exclusively obtained by POLITICO, says it would target “criminal illegal aliens” and would attempt to avoid legal challenges by designating part of the prison — which has drawn accusations of violence and overcrowding from human rights groups — as American territory.

Trump Tyranny Tracker: Day 82

April 11, 2025

trumptyrannytracker.substack.com

Why It Matters: This unprecedented privatization scheme would gut due process, fuel mass detention, and further expand Trump’s extremist anti-immigrant agenda to foreign soil. It mirrors authoritarian tactics and sets a chilling precedent: outsourcing U.S. incarceration to brutal regimes with no regard for human rights. How long before they apply this to US citizens?

 

[SouthAussie]

"Now, with Trump's crackdown, native English speakers, people with PhDs, and others are getting the word out to a broader public about a system they describe as arbitrary and punishing ‒ although ICE detention is not supposed to resemble prison.

"It's insane how easily someone can take away your freedom, lock you in a federal prison, without a clear reason. No explanation. No warning,"

"Just like that, you’re treated like the worst criminal."

"I believe in respecting the rules. But putting someone in federal prison over a missing detail in a visa application?"

Because immigration and visa violations are civil, not criminal matters, ICE detention is supposed to be "non-punitive," according to the agency's own guidelines."

Tourists detained by ICE say they were treated like 'the worst criminal'

Uncommon detainees are bringing new attention to the U.S. immigration detention system

www.usatoday.com

 

[Slamalam]

Trump’s Social Security team has reportedly marked more than 6,000 immigrants as dead

The Trump administration’s relentless campaign to dehumanize immigrants has taken a bureaucratic turn, as new reports reveal a grim effort to extend that dehumanization to official records.

www.msnbc.com

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

Rolling Stone

Trump Wants to ‘Terminate' Legal Immigrants' Social Security Numbers​

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Well, he didn't want to give his name to the media, so he probably didn't want to give his employer's name or his girlfriend's name either. Can't really blame a person for that in the current US climate.

Apparently, there is a work visa (E3) available only for Aussies. It is a 2 year visa, renewable indefinitely. It is for people who are employed in a specialised occupation by a US employer. And there is a long list, though an incomplete list, of examples of these occupations. Sounding as if it is up to the Visa issuer if the occupation is considered specialised.

A few work-studio-related examples that I can see on the incomplete list are:

• Architects
• Arts-related professionals
• Commercial artists, designers, illustrators, graphic arts, product and related designers
• Other occupations in art
• Data and computer scientists
• Digital, communications and computer-related professionals
• Engineers across disciplines including aeronautical, electronic, civil, chemical, industrial, mechanical and nuclear
• Music and other occupations in entertainment and recreation
• Surveyors
• Writers and editors

E3 Visa Occupations: Guide for Australian Workers | NNU Immigration

What are the E3 Visa Speciality Occupations for Australian citizens coming to the US to work?

www.nnuimmigration.com

Exactly - you would expect journalist to give details, or the Australian … type of visa, expiry date - to explain how he was “wronged” in detail. Make his complaint more outrageous and believable.

Sadly journalist didn’t supply important facts, imo.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

A work studio is not an “employer”.

And?